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christinag said:
This one says says 7911, so I think you are bang on about the date code - this would be November 1979. Other dates: in the catalog "For more than fifteen years..." (same as yours) and re The Factory "In the almost 40 years since it was established.."(same as yours :)

I'd sure love to order that slim 76 page library edition of Factory photos that they mention, for only $2! :)
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Ooh! I'm glad we found some clues! Ledobe has that book. She got it on Amazon but it cost more than $2! :D
 
#5,207
Hello, hope someone can help me. I purchased a leather Coach with the Coach Creed No.F0975-F14015. Black leather buttery soft and smells like real leather made in Vietnam. Leather has a smell all it's own. I know Coach makes bags in that county. There is no "Leatheware 1941" on the side, no cc lining but the rings on the straps say Coach. The rings are metal not plastic. Does anyone know the name of the bag? And did Coach make any leather without the signature lining and no "Leatherware 1941" on the side? Thank you
 
#5,208
pat3182 said:
Hello, hope someone can help me. I purchased a leather Coach with the Coach Creed No.F0975-F14015. Black leather buttery soft and smells like real leather made in Vietnam. Leather has a smell all it's own. I know Coach makes bags in that county. There is no "Leatheware 1941" on the side, no cc lining but the rings on the straps say Coach. The rings are metal not plastic. Does anyone know the name of the bag? And did Coach make any leather without the signature lining and no "Leatherware 1941" on the side? Thank you
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Coach only used signature lining for a few years so most leather Coach bags will have a different lining. Based on the creed information you provided, this is a Chelsea leather tote made for factory. This bag has a pink lining and no "Leatherware 1941" on the side. If you want it authenticated, post pictures of the bag and the creed on the Authenticate this Coach thread. http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-763164.html
 
#5,209
whateve said:
Coach only used signature lining for a few years so most leather Coach bags will have a different lining. Based on the creed information you provided, this is a Chelsea leather tote made for factory. This bag has a pink lining and no "Leatherware 1941" on the side. If you want it authenticated, post pictures of the bag and the creed on the Authenticate this Coach thread. http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-763164.html
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Thank you for the info. I think I still have the eBay link. Will post. Thank you. Pat3182
 
#5,210
Annie O said:
Thank you both! It looks exactly like the E4C-9938 images on ebay.

I wonder why the serial # is different on mine and those that are listed on ebay?
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Read the Salearea Guide on Coach serial numbers. You may have to re-read it several times, and save the link. There's a lot of information crammed into a few paragraphs.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts?ugid=10000000034886433

And you may want to read the rest of the Guides when you get a chance:
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea_W0QQcpnameZmembersQQprZsaleareaQQuqtZg
 
#5,211
Stacylee said:
I bought these 2 keyrings on Yardsellr last week, I'm new to collecting the Coach Fobs and Keyrings. I can't find any that look just like these 2 in any of the resource libraries and I'm just wondering if they are fakes, the lady listed them as Coach Keyrings and didn't say they were replicas.
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That's because they're BOTH fake, sorry. If you can find the seller again you may want to insist on a full refund. Selling fakes of ANY kind is against US federal law. Whenever possible, have all keychains authenticated at the Authenticate This Coach thread before you buy, fake keychains are more common than real ones especially at yard sales and flea market-type venues.

Coach NEVER made that style of "gift box", and neither of those keychains have the right number of charms, or the right color charms, or the right surface details. The one on the right is also a completely fake style.

I hope you can get your money back. Meanwhile, keep those things away from children or pets or anyone else that might play with them or chew on them.

And don't ever expect all sellers to tell the truth about the origins of what they're selling.
 
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#5,212
whateve said:
Ooh! I'm glad we found some clues! Ledobe has that book. She got it on Amazon but it cost more than $2! :D
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Oh man! Now I'll be looking for that book!!! Amazon huh..
Now - learning this about the date code on the booklet - makes me wonder if these docs are perhaps from another bag that was with it (that I also bought) (of course :) a 'newer' (ID #717-9931) New York era satchel, same style, in Saddle Tan that did not have the glued in number patch.
The burgundy one has the glued in number patch - which I thought meant earlier 70s? but I don't remember. I better go read up on my salearea guides!:shame:
 
#5,213
christinag said:
This one says says 7911, so I think you are bang on about the date code - this would be November 1979. Other dates: in the catalog "For more than fifteen years..." (same as yours) and re The Factory "In the almost 40 years since it was established.."(same as yours :)

I'd sure love to order that slim 76 page library edition of Factory photos that they mention, for only $2! :)
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whateve said:
Ooh! I'm glad we found some clues! Ledobe has that book. She got it on Amazon but it cost more than $2! :D
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I've had the book for quite a while. If you want to find a copy for a decent price, you have to Google the following: The Factory Portrait of a Leathergoods Factory in Downtown New York City

For instance:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Factory-Portrait-Leathergoods-Downtown/dp/B003NY579Y

:smile1:
 
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christinag said:
Oh man! Now I'll be looking for that book!!! Amazon huh..
Now - learning this about the date code on the booklet - makes me wonder if these docs are perhaps from another bag that was with it (that I also bought) (of course :) a 'newer' (ID #717-9931) New York era satchel, same style, in Saddle Tan that did not have the glued in number patch.
The burgundy one has the glued in number patch - which I thought meant earlier 70s? but I don't remember. I better go read up on my salearea guides!:shame:
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I can't find a definitive answer as to whether the glued in serial numbers are older or newer than the stamped ones. Someone had the theory that they used both at the same time, like maybe the stamping equipment stopped working for awhile, so they had to go back later and glue in the serial numbers. The purse that I got that came with the paperwork has a glued in serial number so I think that means they were gluing in serial numbers in 1980. When you get a chance, post the pictures from your catalog. Is your satchel shown in the catalog? I have a few of these satchels but they aren't in my 1980 catalog.
 
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whateve said:
I can't find a definitive answer as to whether the glued in serial numbers are older or newer than the stamped ones. Someone had the theory that they used both at the same time, like maybe the stamping equipment stopped working for awhile, so they had to go back later and glue in the serial numbers. The purse that I got that came with the paperwork has a glued in serial number so I think that means they were gluing in serial numbers in 1980. When you get a chance, post the pictures from your catalog. Is your satchel shown in the catalog? I have a few of these satchels but they aren't in my 1980 catalog.
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Thanks! Very interesting! No satchel in the catalog. I was hoping the catalog would have had some mysterious Coach bags in it, but all seem to be bags I'm familiar with. Not that I wouldn't mind having each and every one of them in every color :p

I'm scanning the goodies as we speak, will post back with location when they're uploaded.
 
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Hyacinth said:
That's because they're BOTH fake, sorry. If you can find the seller again you may want to insist on a full refund. Selling fakes of ANY kind is against US federal law. Whenever possible, have all keychains authenticated at the Authenticate This Coach thread before you buy, fake keychains are more common than real ones especially at yard sales and flea market-type venues.

Coach NEVER made that style of "gift box", and neither of those keychains have the right number of charms, or the right color charms, or the right surface details. The one on the right is also a completely fake style.

I hope you can get your money back. Meanwhile, keep those things away from children or pets or anyone else that might play with them or chew on them.

And don't ever expect all sellers to tell the truth about the origins of what they're selling.
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Thank you, I will be contacting her right away and asking for my money back.
 
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#5,219
christinag said:
Here are pics of the little catalog, also here is a link to a Google Drive folder with all of the docs (and the bag :) in both .pdf & .jpg format for anyone (Coach geeks? :) who might be interested.
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B-beWNR1GlzHRTg5NnhlVGhxY1E/edit

Enjoy & again, thanks everyone for all of the info and help!
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Thanks for posting. Except for the date code, yours is identical to mine. I'm thinking that either not all bags were put in the catalog or the catalog didn't come with your satchel.
 
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