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Not sure what this bag would be called. It's Pre Creed with just the "coach" name embossed, so does that make it a Cashin era bag? it's about 10"w x 9"h x 4.5d" Thanks so much!
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Not sure what this bag would be called. It's Pre Creed with just the "coach" name embossed, so does that make it a Cashin era bag? it's about 10"w x 9"h x 4.5d" Thanks so much!
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By jessi319 at 2012-04-06
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I wish I knew a short answer to your question and a NAME for your bag.:smile1: It's an absolutely beautiful bag!

I have a bag with that "mark" but it's not a Bonnie design and was made after she left Coach. That alone doesn't mean your bag is not a Cashin design, since Coach continued to make her designs long after she left.

I guess the long answer is that the "Cashin Era" to me at least - is Cashin's time at Coach and the bags that were designed and MADE during that time. Bonnie was the sole designer at Coach from 1962 to 1974.

I do hope that someone will recognize that beauty and can give it a name.

;)
 
I wish I knew a short answer to your question and a NAME for your bag.:smile1: It's an absolutely beautiful bag!

I have a bag with that "mark" but it's not a Bonnie design and was made after she left Coach. That alone doesn't mean your bag is not a Cashin design, since Coach continued to make her designs long after she left.

I guess the long answer is that the "Cashin Era" to me at least - is Cashin's time at Coach and the bags that were designed and MADE during that time. Bonnie was the sole designer at Coach from 1962 to 1974.

I do hope that someone will recognize that beauty and can give it a name.

;)
thank you and it's fascinating to figure out what exactly Bonnie did and didn't do ! I hope to find out something more. I should add that the strap has what is called the "guitar" strap...? and it does have one slip pocket in front of the main large compartment in addition to the zippered compartment on the back of the main compartment.
 
thank you and it's fascinating to figure out what exactly Bonnie did and didn't do ! I hope to find out something more. I should add that the strap has what is called the "guitar" strap...? and it does have one slip pocket in front of the main large compartment in addition to the zippered compartment on the back of the main compartment.

I've seen a few others in that style but don't have any information on it at all. Gorgeous bag though!
 
I've seen a few others in that style but don't have any information on it at all. Gorgeous bag though!

Thank you!! hopefully some information will come along! you guys are the most knowledgeable so I wouldn't even know where else to ask unless Coach lets you submit photos or bags somewhere officially.
 
Thank you!! hopefully some information will come along! you guys are the most knowledgeable so I wouldn't even know where else to ask unless Coach lets you submit photos or bags somewhere officially.
There's no way you'll find anyone at Coach with the knowledge of the vintage bags that DemRam and Hyacinth have!

it sure is a beautiful bag!
 
I wish I knew a short answer to your question and a NAME for your bag.:smile1: It's an absolutely beautiful bag!

I have a bag with that "mark" but it's not a Bonnie design and was made after she left Coach. That alone doesn't mean your bag is not a Cashin design, since Coach continued to make her designs long after she left.

I guess the long answer is that the "Cashin Era" to me at least - is Cashin's time at Coach and the bags that were designed and MADE during that time. Bonnie was the sole designer at Coach from 1962 to 1974.

I do hope that someone will recognize that beauty and can give it a name.

;)
that leads me to ask one more question: Were there any bags just embossed with "coach" during 1962 to 1974? (or did that embossing only happen after she left no matter who designed the bag)...Or mainly during those years was it just the metal black tags, or Mexican striped/Cashin Carry type interiors, etc?
 
that leads me to ask one more question: Were there any bags just embossed with "coach" during 1962 to 1974? (or did that embossing only happen after she left no matter who designed the bag)...Or mainly during those years was it just the metal black tags, or Mexican striped/Cashin Carry type interiors, etc?

I own only 1 bag with that embossed mark, and I was told by the Cashin Foundation that mine was made after Cashin left Coach, which would lead me to believe it was a mid to later 1970's mark.

The 2 pictures below will give you an idea about how confusing and maddening the entire "Cashin era" bags can be.

I also paid to have both of these bags authenticated by the Cashin Foundation a few years ago.

Picture #1, with the black/white Coach plaque, was authenticated as a Bonnie Cashin design that was made first in 1967. They even sent me a photo of the original drawing, price and colors.

Picture #2, with the old leather riveted mark, was deemed to be NOT a Cashin design, though it was made with the "leftover" striped fabric and was dated to 1975. So Coach was just using up the materials and someone else was doing the designing. I was just positive it was a Cashin bag. How wrong I was.

Now, with the Cashin Foundation not doing authentications, there is just nowhere to go to get an accurate answer.

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I own only 1 bag with that embossed mark, and I was told by the Cashin Foundation that mine was made after Cashin left Coach, which would lead me to believe it was a mid to later 1970's mark.

The 2 pictures below will give you an idea about how confusing and maddening the entire "Cashin era" bags can be.

I also paid to have both of these bags authenticated by the Cashin Foundation a few years ago.

Picture #1, with the black/white Coach plaque, was authenticated as a Bonnie Cashin design that was made first in 1967. They even sent me a photo of the original drawing, price and colors.

Picture #2, with the old leather riveted mark, was deemed to be NOT a Cashin design, though it was made with the "leftover" striped fabric and was dated to 1975. So Coach was just using up the materials and someone else was doing the designing. I was just positive it was a Cashin bag. How wrong I was.

Now, with the Cashin Foundation not doing authentications, there is just nowhere to go to get an accurate answer.

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wow. makes me wonder!! because the double kisslock type bags had to have been based on her designs...so to not get credited to her seems kinda off , but what can ya do? And to use up left over mexican striped lining also is strange....that just should have been HER trademark bags!!! Thanks for that information though!! it's very helpful!! I'm so in love with Bonnie Cashin's work!
 
I own only 1 bag with that embossed mark, and I was told by the Cashin Foundation that mine was made after Cashin left Coach, which would lead me to believe it was a mid to later 1970's mark.

The 2 pictures below will give you an idea about how confusing and maddening the entire "Cashin era" bags can be.

I also paid to have both of these bags authenticated by the Cashin Foundation a few years ago.

Picture #1, with the black/white Coach plaque, was authenticated as a Bonnie Cashin design that was made first in 1967. They even sent me a photo of the original drawing, price and colors.

Picture #2, with the old leather riveted mark, was deemed to be NOT a Cashin design, though it was made with the "leftover" striped fabric and was dated to 1975. So Coach was just using up the materials and someone else was doing the designing. I was just positive it was a Cashin bag. How wrong I was.

Now, with the Cashin Foundation not doing authentications, there is just nowhere to go to get an accurate answer.

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Wow, very interesting, thanks!

DemRam, what is your opinion about the metal used for the hardware on your first bag above. Do you think it is solid brass, brass plated, or some other goldtone coated metal? Or are you like me and have absolutely no idea?

I am just curious because the metal on my little cashin Small Shopper cleaned up quickly and very easily unlike many of my rehab projects.
 
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