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DemRam said:
There should be a "creed" stamp on the inside of the bag. The creed will have information about where the bag was made and what its made of.

If it doesn't have a creed, it should have some sort of mark that indicates it was made by Coach.

Without pictures of that creed it's not possible to tell if it's authentic or even IF it's made by Coach.

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hema said:
Thank you. There is no creed that I see. The only coach mark I see is the tag. I've attached a couple more pics.
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I've never seen an authentic Coach without a Coach marking of some kind, except for a few Bonnie Cashin bags that had lost their little metal plaques or Bonnie Cashin sewn in tags. Those were still identifiable as Coach though, because of the uniqueness of the bag and the striped lining.

Is there a mark like the one below stamped on the leather anywhere around the inside top of the bag?

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I have no other ideas. Maybe Hyacinth has a clue. A Coach hang tag really means nothing. It can be put on any bag.

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#3,827
I did find the creed. I did not look carefully earlier. However, it is so worn out I can barely make out anything except that is was made in the US.

DemRam said:
I've never seen an authentic Coach without a Coach marking of some kind, except for a few Bonnie Cashin bags that had lost their little metal plaques or Bonnie Cashin sewn in tags. Those were still identifiable as Coach though, because of the uniqueness of the bag and the striped lining.

Is there a mark like the one below stamped on the leather anywhere around the inside top of the bag?

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I have no other ideas. Maybe Hyacinth has a clue. A Coach hang tag really means nothing. It can be put on any bag.

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#3,828
hema said:
I did find the creed. I did not look carefully earlier. However, it is so worn out I can barely make out anything except that is was made in the US.
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I'm glad you found a creed. That's a plus! Unfortunately, I really can't tell much by seeing that well-worn creed.

Was the creed stamped on an inner slip pocket? I didn't see the "pocket" in your original pictures.

The bag "looks" like the Coach "Taft" which is style number 9980, although without measurements - PLUS photos of the back, front, sides and bottom of the bag - I don't know any way to be positive.



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#3,829
Originally Posted by hema I did find the creed. I did not look carefully earlier. However, it is so worn out I can barely make out anything except that is was made in the US.

DemRam said:
I'm glad you found a creed. That's a plus! Unfortunately, I really can't tell much by seeing that well-worn creed.

Was the creed stamped on an inner slip pocket? I didn't see the "pocket" in your original pictures.

The bag "looks" like the Coach "Taft" which is style number 9980, although without measurements - PLUS photos of the back, front, sides and bottom of the bag - I don't know any way to be positive.



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Sometimes you can help a badly-worn creed or serial number stamp show up a bit better by lightly brushing a tiny bit of light-colored pearlized or metallic powder eyeshadow over it and then very gently wiping off the excess so that what's left settles into the stamp marks. Maybe that might help bring up the serial number? The shadow can usually be cleaned off afterwards with a dry or slightly damp cloth or towel. Concentrate on where the serial number should be - I see what looks like an "N" at the beginning of that row but that's all that's visible.

Without seeing the creed and in this case the serial number it's impossible to be sure if it's a genuine Taft Bag, since there have been a lot of fakes of that style.
 
#3,833
I bought this wristlet/wallet around 2004 maybe? I bought it along with the matching mini hobo from Macys. The wristlet does not have a Coach serial number so I'm not sure how to identify it.

It has slots of credit cards and a zip pouch for coins but it also has a "handle" like the wristlets. The name of the matching hobo is Soho mini signature (I think).

My real question is how much would something like this be worth and if I should hold on to it as it seems to be a limited edition or hard to find item that may go up in value.

Thanks for any information...


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#3,834
I tried to get the number to show up. All in vain. I love the bag though. I love the size, strap drop and the outside pocket. However, it is very beat up. Has so many scratches and scuffs. How can I get rid of the scratches? What is the best leather conditioner available? Thank you so much for helping me with this.

Hyacinth said:
Originally Posted by hema I did find the creed. I did not look carefully earlier. However, it is so worn out I can barely make out anything except that is was made in the US.



Sometimes you can help a badly-worn creed or serial number stamp show up a bit better by lightly brushing a tiny bit of light-colored pearlized or metallic powder eyeshadow over it and then very gently wiping off the excess so that what's left settles into the stamp marks. Maybe that might help bring up the serial number? The shadow can usually be cleaned off afterwards with a dry or slightly damp cloth or towel. Concentrate on where the serial number should be - I see what looks like an "N" at the beginning of that row but that's all that's visible.

Without seeing the creed and in this case the serial number it's impossible to be sure if it's a genuine Taft Bag, since there have been a lot of fakes of that style.
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hema said:
I tried to get the number to show up. All in vain. I love the bag though. I love the size, strap drop and the outside pocket. However, it is very beat up. Has so many scratches and scuffs. How can I get rid of the scratches? What is the best leather conditioner available? Thank you so much for helping me with this.
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There are at least 2 (maybe more) discussion threads about rehabbing older and beat up Coach bags. They are long threads, but well worth taking the time to read because they are full of helpful suggestions.

Links below:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club-624452.html

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/two-70s-80s-made-nyc-bags-going-through-658823.html

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#3,836
rfa2010 said:
I bought this wristlet/wallet around 2004 maybe? I bought it along with the matching mini hobo from Macys. The wristlet does not have a Coach serial number so I'm not sure how to identify it.

It has slots of credit cards and a zip pouch for coins but it also has a "handle" like the wristlets. The name of the matching hobo is Soho mini signature (I think).

My real question is how much would something like this be worth and if I should hold on to it as it seems to be a limited edition or hard to find item that may go up in value.

Thanks for any information...


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We usually don't give any kind of values - what any specific item can bring can vary widely depending on the potential buyers who may or may not be looking for one. I suggest you search Ebay for something like "signature clutch" or "Soho Signature clutch" or "soho signature wristlet" and see what you find and what similar styles sold for.

Most older Signature items, limited or not, aren't considered collectors items and seldom go up in value.
 
#3,838
Was the 9988 ever made in cream / ivory / mint ? I see these listings on ebay -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260885529405?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190596617657?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I got this from old posts -
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Originally Posted by lov View Post
the seller sent me like 8 more pictures.
I am thrilled to report that I further inquired with another company that is quite informed about older style coach bags and this is what they said:


The 9988 is from the Legacy Line of COACH. It was called a Saddle or Hippie Bag. Produced in British Tan, Black, Brown and Blue. This bag was produced in 3 (plants) A, M and B. It has a strap that has 2 adjustable belt buckle attachments that allow for lengthening or shortening the Strap. ALL hardware should be of the same COLOR!

Hope that helps a little. Sounds like yours is NOT Fake.


Thanks Ladies!!
I'm curious to know who the company is?

That style wasn't called a Hippie Bag, just a Saddle Bag, at least if we're talking about what Coach called them. It was also available in several more colors not listed in the reply including red and mahogany.

The problem with the serial number is that the A plant designation never appears on ANY bags from the 1990s. And since all mention of that plant (the original Coach plant in NYC) disappears in the mid 1980s or a bit earlier when the plant was closed it would be very hard for a bag that wasn't even made until 1996 or 97 to have been made there. The original style called a Crescent Bag from the 70s and 80s would have been made in the A plant, but NOT the late 1990s Saddle Bag.

Also whoever is giving you the information is also missing at least one plant since there's one with a "P" code listed on Ebay. And Coach never refers to the Saddle Bag as a Legacy OR a Hippie or lists it as such in any of their catalogs.

Whoever you contacted is missing some information, and seems to be a bit confused about Coach's timeline and maybe not too careful about where the rest of their information is coming from. Who did you contact?

(BTW, anyone who can say a bag is authentic just from a description and without photos isn't someone I'd trust with authenticating anything I was thinking of buying.)
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#3,840
hema said:
Was the 9988 ever made in cream / ivory / mint ? I see these listings on ebay -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260885529405?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190596617657?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I got this from old posts -
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Originally Posted by lov View Post
the seller sent me like 8 more pictures.
I am thrilled to report that I further inquired with another company that is quite informed about older style coach bags and this is what they said:


The 9988 is from the Legacy Line of COACH. It was called a Saddle or Hippie Bag. Produced in British Tan, Black, Brown and Blue. This bag was produced in 3 (plants) A, M and B. It has a strap that has 2 adjustable belt buckle attachments that allow for lengthening or shortening the Strap. ALL hardware should be of the same COLOR!

Hope that helps a little. Sounds like yours is NOT Fake.


Thanks Ladies!!
I'm curious to know who the company is?

That style wasn't called a Hippie Bag, just a Saddle Bag, at least if we're talking about what Coach called them. It was also available in several more colors not listed in the reply including red and mahogany.

The problem with the serial number is that the A plant designation never appears on ANY bags from the 1990s. And since all mention of that plant (the original Coach plant in NYC) disappears in the mid 1980s or a bit earlier when the plant was closed it would be very hard for a bag that wasn't even made until 1996 or 97 to have been made there. The original style called a Crescent Bag from the 70s and 80s would have been made in the A plant, but NOT the late 1990s Saddle Bag.

Also whoever is giving you the information is also missing at least one plant since there's one with a "P" code listed on Ebay. And Coach never refers to the Saddle Bag as a Legacy OR a Hippie or lists it as such in any of their catalogs.

Whoever you contacted is missing some information, and seems to be a bit confused about Coach's timeline and maybe not too careful about where the rest of their information is coming from. Who did you contact?

(BTW, anyone who can say a bag is authentic just from a description and without photos isn't someone I'd trust with authenticating anything I was thinking of buying.)
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The information from the first poster is almost totally incorrect.

The info from the second poster is correct (pardon my blushes).
Without seeing a photo of the creed in the blue-green bag to determine IF it's real and if so, what year it was made, there's NO way to tell if the color is correct for the year. Coach changed their available colors not just every year, but every season.
 
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