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I apologize in advance for the lack of photos - but I don't think they'll be necessary in this case. I picked up a white/cream/ivory (what do they call this color?) basic bag over the weekend (for $10 - I love my local consignment store, she always has treasures). It has a Talon zipper, a one sided hangtag, and the creed lozenge says 'Coach Leatherware' and 'Made in the United States'. The numbers below the creed are 041-0117, and they have faint lines above and below.

So, if I'm understanding things, I think the numbers are just random (rather than style and dates as in the new bags), but can anyone give me a rough timeline on the bag? I'm just curious as to general age. I'm sure it's authentic (well, pretty sure, but I would never stake anything valuable on it), and she's adding to my collection of vintage bags, so I'm trying to add to my knowledge, so that I know what I'm looking at!

Thanks!
 
I have a bag that apparently was made in Italy. It is nwt so I know it says pearlized satchel and that it msrp was $325 serial number is 6107. what I am wanting to know is when was it made? I never knew Coach was made in Italy. how rare was this item I tried google and ebay and there is nothing on this bag.

The bag is gorgeous! Can someone tell what are the characteristics of "pearlized nappa leather"?
 
I apologize in advance for the lack of photos - but I don't think they'll be necessary in this case. I picked up a white/cream/ivory (what do they call this color?) basic bag over the weekend (for $10 - I love my local consignment store, she always has treasures). It has a Talon zipper, a one sided hangtag, and the creed lozenge says 'Coach Leatherware' and 'Made in the United States'. The numbers below the creed are 041-0117, and they have faint lines above and below.

So, if I'm understanding things, I think the numbers are just random (rather than style and dates as in the new bags), but can anyone give me a rough timeline on the bag? I'm just curious as to general age. I'm sure it's authentic (well, pretty sure, but I would never stake anything valuable on it), and she's adding to my collection of vintage bags, so I'm trying to add to my knowledge, so that I know what I'm looking at!

Thanks!

My guess would be very late 70s to mid to late 80s based on the zipper and the Made in the United States creed.
 
Originally Posted by Shortthiing_Jen I have a bag that apparently was made in Italy. It is nwt so I know it says pearlized satchel and that it msrp was $325 serial number is 6107. what I am wanting to know is when was it made? I never knew Coach was made in Italy. how rare was this item I tried google and ebay and there is nothing on this bag.



The bag is gorgeous! Can someone tell what are the characteristics of "pearlized nappa leather"?

Nappa is a softer leather, I remember it was sometimes used for coats. Check Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather
 
Originally Posted by Shortthiing_Jen I have a bag that apparently was made in Italy. It is nwt so I know it says pearlized satchel and that it msrp was $325 serial number is 6107. what I am wanting to know is when was it made? I never knew Coach was made in Italy. how rare was this item I tried google and ebay and there is nothing on this bag.

Nappa is a softer leather, I remember it was sometimes used for coats. Check Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather

Thanks, I am always interested in learning about these different coach leathers (e.g., vintage, legacy, garcia, etc.) Is legacy leather vachetta?

Hey, I've got one for you! I took my Gracie to the cobbler to see if I could have a strap made for her. He told me that he could match the beechnut color of the leather but that he "would never be able to match the skins."

He said the the little dark dots on the pebbled leather are actually printed on the leather to create the "caviar" appearance.

He advised me to be content with carrying Gracie as a top handle bag and not to try and replace the missing strap. He said "you could spend a lot of money on a new strap only to be disappointed with the results."

I decided to take his advice.
 
Can you help me figure out what bag this is? I purchased it at the outlet around 3 years ago:

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It has the usual zip pocket, d-ring and 2 multi-purpose pockets.

Thanks for your help.
 
My guess would be very late 70s to mid to late 80s based on the zipper and the Made in the United States creed.

Thank you so much Hyacinth! The bag is older than I thought based on condition (it's been used, but is mostly pristine), but the zipper and wording threw me a bit (I usually find only YKK zippers - and I thought they were heavy duty, but the Talon are massive!).

Again, thank you for being so generous with your knowledge. :smile1:
 
Thanks, I am always interested in learning about these different coach leathers (e.g., vintage, legacy, garcia, etc.) Is legacy leather vachetta?

Hey, I've got one for you! I took my Gracie to the cobbler to see if I could have a strap made for her. He told me that he could match the beechnut color of the leather but that he "would never be able to match the skins."

He said the the little dark dots on the pebbled leather are actually printed on the leather to create the "caviar" appearance.

He advised me to be content with carrying Gracie as a top handle bag and not to try and replace the missing strap. He said "you could spend a lot of money on a new strap only to be disappointed with the results."

I decided to take his advice.

I don't think Legacy Leather is Vachetta but I'm not really an expert. Maybe you could post a question or do a Search in the Coach forum.

Interesting about how they did the Madison line leathers - no wonder they were so expensive! But they really look elegant.

Just an idea if you really want a shoulder strap for your Gracie - what about a combination chain and leather strap? I just bought a few 45-inch ones from Silver-Coach for a couple of my cross-body bags but you can get them in shorter lengths. You can get them in half a dozen diferrent lengths in either brass or silver-tone, and since the leather part is only by your shoulder the color and texture difference wouldn't be so obvious. Maybe the darker brown strap would work, or even the Gold Patent to match the chain? They're just standard leather and not made by Coach but at least the color and texture wouldn't be that big a problem.

Here's a listing for the 36-inch length or just search Silver-Coach's main store for "chain strap"

http://cgi.ebay.com/36-GOLD-CHAIN-L...t=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&var=&hash=item97579f7416

http://stores.ebay.com/SCECKERT-SILVER-COACH/_i.html?_nkw=chain+strap&submit=Search&_sid=14491045
EDITED TO ADD - I just remembered that some of the Madison straps attach under the top of the flap, I don't remember if the Gracie does or not and I can't find a photo of the attachment. If it does, the aftermarket strap might not work. Darn. But take a look at the strap and you should be able to tell better than I.
 
Thank you so much Hyacinth! The bag is older than I thought based on condition (it's been used, but is mostly pristine), but the zipper and wording threw me a bit (I usually find only YKK zippers - and I thought they were heavy duty, but the Talon are massive!).

Again, thank you for being so generous with your knowledge. :smile1:

You're welcome.

The "industrial" zippers were one of the reasons an older Coach lasted forever. You can't even imagine one of those things breaking! :cool:
 
I don't think Legacy Leather is Vachetta but I'm not really an expert. Maybe you could post a question or do a Search in the Coach forum.

Interesting about how they did the Madison line leathers - no wonder they were so expensive! But they really look elegant.

Just an idea if you really want a shoulder strap for your Gracie - what about a combination chain and leather strap? I just bought a few 45-inch ones from Silver-Coach for a couple of my cross-body bags but you can get them in shorter lengths. You can get them in half a dozen diferrent lengths in either brass or silver-tone, and since the leather part is only by your shoulder the color and texture difference wouldn't be so obvious. Maybe the darker brown strap would work, or even the Gold Patent to match the chain? They're just standard leather and not made by Coach but at least the color and texture wouldn't be that big a problem.

Here's a listing for the 36-inch length or just search Silver-Coach's main store for "chain strap"

http://cgi.ebay.com/36-GOLD-CHAIN-L...t=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&var=&hash=item97579f7416

http://stores.ebay.com/SCECKERT-SILVER-COACH/_i.html?_nkw=chain+strap&submit=Search&_sid=14491045
EDITED TO ADD - I just remembered that some of the Madison straps attach under the top of the flap, I don't remember if the Gracie does or not and I can't find a photo of the attachment. If it does, the aftermarket strap might not work. Darn. But take a look at the strap and you should be able to tell better than I.

It does attach under the flap, I thought of a brushed gold chain strap but I was afraid it would wear along the edges of the flap. Thanks for the info, I will check it out!
 
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