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You people are way too into your purses. If i know it's fake, what does it matter?

There are knockoffs of EVERYTHING. I'll be leaving the forums now and going to a flea market.
I might get slapped but I have to rebut your statement.

It's not a matter of being "way too into purses." One can have a lovely non-designer brand bag and no one would criticize them. The problem isn't that we're label snobs. I have some very nice Tignello, Lodis and other brand items that are not labels that have been faked (that I'm aware of).

The problem with counterfeit items is that they are associated with organized crime, terrorism, use of child labor, unsafe working conditions, etc.

The problem goes much deeper than the fake industry taking money from the deep pockets of the designers. If you do a bit of googling of some keywords (as suggested by Hyacinth), you'd be amazed at what you read.

As for "there being knockoffs of everything," yes, you are correct and it's very scary. There are fake drugs, fake clothing, shoes, laundry detergents, fake automobile parts -- and about anything else that you think of with a high consumer demand.

In many cases, use of fakes won't have a physical effect on those who use them, but there are instances where people have been hurt or sickened because they used a counterfeit item.

Babies might play with the cheap fake keychain their mother has and have brain damage resulting from the high lead levels in the charms.

In fact, my type-1 diabetic son could have had dire consequences based on what happened to him several years ago. He purchased his blood sugar testing test strips from CVS and subequently got a notice that they were counterfeit.

Somehow, CVS's suppliers got fake test strips and they were distributed to diabetic patients. If patients took the wrong amount of insulin, they could have died as a direct result of the counterfeit item they unknowingly purchased from their pharmacy.

Please do a bit of reading so you really know the consequences and dangers of the industry before condemning us as label whores.
 
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Obviously, some people don't care about terrorism, street gangs, and abused children. Or people dying because of counterfeit medicines, auto and even airplane parts.

Good riddance to them.
I know. But the optimist in me sometimes makes me think that people are just not understanding the full impact of the industry and perhaps giving them some information, they could be willing to learn.
 
I know. But the optimist in me sometimes makes me think that people are just not understanding the full impact of the industry and perhaps giving them some information, they could be willing to learn.

I appreciate your optimism and just wish I could share it. But when the most important phrase in someone's vocabulary seems to be "I want", it doesn't seem that reality, research or even conscience stands much of a chance.
 
Relating counterfeit purses to your son is a great argument. Not.

I might get slapped but I have to rebut your statement.

It's not a matter of being "way too into purses." One can have a lovely non-designer brand bag and no one would criticize them. The problem isn't that we're label snobs. I have some very nice Tignello, Lodis and other brand items that are not labels that have been faked (that I'm aware of).

The problem with counterfeit items is that they are associated with organized crime, terrorism, use of child labor, unsafe working conditions, etc.

The problem goes much deeper than the fake industry taking money from the deep pockets of the designers. If you do a bit of googling of some keywords (as suggested by Hyacinth), you'd be amazed at what you read.

As for "there being knockoffs of everything," yes, you are correct and it's very scary. There are fake drugs, fake clothing, shoes, laundry detergents, fake automobile parts -- and about anything else that you think of with a high consumer demand.

In many cases, use of fakes won't have a physical effect on those who use them, but there are instances where people have been hurt or sickened because they used a counterfeit item.

Babies might play with the cheap fake keychain their mother has and have brain damage resulting from the high lead levels in the charms.

In fact, my type-1 diabetic son could have had dire consequences based on what happened to him several years ago. He purchased his blood sugar testing test strips from CVS and subequently got a notice that they were counterfeit.

Somehow, CVS's suppliers got fake test strips and they were distributed to diabetic patients. If patients took the wrong amount of insulin, they could have died as a direct result of the counterfeit item they unknowingly purchased from their pharmacy.

Please do a bit of reading so you really know the consequences and dangers of the industry before condemning us as label whores.
 
Relating counterfeit purses to your son is a great argument. Not.

Yes, it is a great argument against counterfeits!

Whether you agree or not, the bottom line is that selling, buying and owning counterfeit items is illegal. It violates both US and international laws and the forum cannot support or endorse illegal actions, even if they wanted to do so.

It is also morally wrong because, as proven by Interpol, the counterfeit industries support terrible activities such as child slave labor and international terrorism.

On top of all that, it's just wasting money on a cheaply made item that will look tacky and fall apart quickly. I once bought a fake Kate Spade bag from a street vendor (before I knew the truth about knock-offs) and it looked good for about a month. Then the logo fell off, the stitching on the straps started to unravel, and one of the seams ripped (and I am pretty easy on my bags.)

It would have been a better investment to have spent the same amount on a nice, no-name bag sold by a legitimate vendor.
 
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Hello
I just won this auctin (my first vintage coach bag)
http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:ME:MMX&CurrentPage=MyeBayMyMessages#d1
I was told the bag is from the 70's with No 031-2036.
Could anyone advise of the style name or any other information. I greatly appreciate any input.
Your link doesn't go to the listing you won. It's goes to your messages, presumably where ebay let you know you won.

You need to post the URL to the actual listing page.
 
It may be a Madison Satchel but we really need more photos to identify it. When you get it please stuff it to show its actual shape and take photos of the creed stamp and a three-quarter view of one end of the bag so we can see the shape and how the top zipper is placed. Thanks!
Thank you beenburned and hyacinth for your input. I did purchase it but requested pictures before it was sent out. They were all very blurry to identify certain elements of the bag. However, I attached a pic of the creed that came out pretty good - at least it is a start. I agree that it looks like a madison style. If needed, I can take more pics when the bag arrives...it was a steal so hopefully it is authentic!;) Thank you again for your time.
 

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Thank you beenburned and hyacinth for your input. I did purchase it but requested pictures before it was sent out. They were all very blurry to identify certain elements of the bag. However, I attached a pic of the creed that came out pretty good - at least it is a start. I agree that it looks like a madison style. If needed, I can take more pics when the bag arrives...it was a steal so hopefully it is authentic!;) Thank you again for your time.

The creed looks ok. When you get the bag we can take another look.
 
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