Well, I have an additional predicament:. It is a Christmas gift from my husband and he has hidden it! He's too good at hiding gifts for me to EVER be able to find it! I know there was a tag inside the bag and it said "Made in Vietnam". I do not recall a dot on this tag but I will have to wait until Christmas to let you know! It was the ONLY bag I found in the whole store that had a dust bag so I was cautiously optimistic that it was a retail bag. My local outlet also made it rather obvious when you stepped bag and took in the layout of the store: It appeared that they kept the retail bags on a shelf near the registers. They were bags that were all ,"one-offs"...no duplicates, and most of them seemed like they had traveled a great deal- Missing carry straps, odd/mismatched stuffing inside, some had the care instructions in the fancy sleeve, others didn't....which were not within any of the factory outlet bags. Additionally, I did talk to one of the retail associates about retail vs. factory bags. She was rather unwilling to offer additional information to me but she did spill the beans that all of the new factory outlet SNs have only 4 digits after the dash....no more F. The style you purchased with no F, did it have 4 digits after the dash, or 5?
As you can tell, I was on a mission to find a retail bag. I also bought a wallet. I found a dreamer wallet (66615) and, there again- while placed in drawers with other wallets, it was among a group of wallets which there were very few of each color. I actually found 66615 on the coach.com site! It is listed as out of stock....so this MUST be a retail item. It also contained a sleeve and care instruction card which others did not. I feel more confident that this is a retail wallet. https://www.coach.com/coach-dreamer-wallet/66615.html. Any thoughts on this one?
When you say they only have 4 digits after the dash, that worries me. All bags made after 2006 have FIVE digits after the dash just as the standard style number format. Adding the "F" makes it six. I've heard that Coach is re-using older style numbers but going back to 4 digits would just confuse things even more. Are you sure that the new system shows 4 and not 5, with the F code making it 6?
I'm hoping that some posters buying items at the outlet will start posting pics of the creed patches as well as the actual items, it would make authenticating those newer styles a bit easier.