How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Looking 20s also means having the figure of a 20 year old. A lot of ladies who want explant of their breast implants are often told they will look deformed to discourage them. This is not true if you pick a surgeon who specialises in en bloc breast implant removal. I have seen many amazing natural results with no lift required and would highly recommend you try this first before getting removal with lift. Breast lift may leave you with mismatched nipples or different sized areolas, and you will never have back your normal natural areolas again. Also whether you get periareolar lift or lollipop lift, the result may be no lift seen (in my case with periareolar) or a postop drop of the breasts after as little as 6 weeks. So it is important you find surgeon photos up to 1 year post lift to see if it drops and to ask to see photos without nipple covers to see what the postop areolas look like.

I am 6 weeks post en bloc removal with lift (surgeon performed periareolar even though I asked for lollipop) and have one 3 cm round areola and one 4 cm oval elliptical areola which from regular post op selfies looks like were mismatched even from pod 3! My preop areolas were smaller, symmetrical and round.

I see my surgeon next week for my first postop check and will ask for areola symmetrisation, ie fix the left 4 cm elliptical one he left me with to match the right. This is where you judge whether your surgeon takes responsibility for his work.

I have also arranged a free appointment with Mr Dario Rochira for his opinion. His work on instagram looks amazing! His private clinic charges £2k per areola to fix or £4k for both which is the going uk rate.

After spending £7690 on en bloc removal with lift, I am hoping my original surgeon will not charge extra to fix the left areola.
 

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To think it has been 3 years since I began my rejuvenation journey starting with rib rhino in Feb 2016. The Ion rib rhino has lasted 3 years and counting. My eyelid creases are still holding well with Seo's ptosis correction from May 2016 to Feb 2019. Here are my latest selfies from this month with my natural brown eyes. My weight is stable between 98 and 99 lbs, and I know not to take any selfies before I hydrate with a bottle of water and no selfies after meals with msg. Plant based diets are all the rage to reduce inflammation in the body. Still can't eat avocados, hummus and couscous or drink wheatgrass.

I see Dr Rochira at 98 Harley St today for a second opinion on my breasts and my mismatched areolas and whether he can do lollipop lift as the periareolar lift I got did not work in my opinion.
 

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I saw Mr Dario Rochira today at 98 Harley Street and he offered to fix the left areola as soon as next month! I now wait to see my original surgeon tomorrow morning and decide. Mr Rochira said I was not a candidate for breast lift but needed breast FT! Fat transfer! This is a recurring theme for me. lol. I think I have 150 ccs in each of my love handles or wishful thinking. Sounds like I may be flying back to Korea to try out breast FT which wasn't invented back in 1996 when I tried the first of 4 implants.

Professor Anand Deva, Australia's leading expert on breast alcl and breast implant illness says there are 3 categories of breast implant illness and category A is irreversible! Ladies do not get silicon breast implants! (see attached pre release news). I love how 3 top world scientists/surgeons are collaborating on breast alcl and bii to determine the cause...Dr Susan Turner Cambridge molecular cell biologist for the UK, Prof Deva for Australia and Dr Mark Clemens for USA.

But for now I need to fix the areola asymmetry and am happy to wear M&S silk bras to give me an instant lift. If you are getting breast lift ask for vertical scar lift, as Rochira said lollipop lift = periareolar lift?! So confusing. Did I ask for the wrong lift? Mr Rochira looked confused when I said I was 52. I credited Korea for my facial fg last Feb. While I was there I also asked if I needed zygoma reduction or a facelift and he looked at me like I had a few screws loose. lol. Well it was a free consult so I was asking as much as I could re any and all procedures. lol
 

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An update on my 2 month postop visit to see my original surgeon who did my en bloc removal and lift. Yay he has offered to do bilateral postop areola symmetrisation for free! I will be reassessed in 4 months time and then booked for the procedure. Phew.

Professor Deva has now published his paper on breast implant illness. The categories are reversed so proven autoimmune diseases are category C and no illness A. I am category B as my dry eyes came back. That means I better be careful with alcohol as the inflammation and intolerance could return too. Still trying to work out a plant based diet.

In the UK oncology breast surgeons are now jumping on the bandwagon doing en bloc implant removals with breast lift for less than half the price of plastic surgeons! Mrs Harding-Mackean a private oncology breast surgeon is only charging £3510 based in Chester's Nuffield hospital! I paid £7690 for en bloc removal and circumareolar mastopexy with a plastic surgeon! Gulp. Good to know other surgical specialties are helping out as some ladies cannot afford explant with lift prices. In London plastic surgeons' prices are around £8800!

I kakaoed Fresh clinic for a quote on breast fat transfer after sending my photo. They suggest waiting 6 months postop so no decisions need to be made for now. Their pricing is often higher than mvp so I may need to fly back to Korea for breast FT at mvp or not as I have limited fat reserves.
 

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I found this diagram and it details where we lose facial fat volume as we age! The first signs are temple fat loss, forehead brow dents and sunken nasolabial folds as fat disappears either from extreme weight loss or signs of aging. Nasolabial folds can be fixed with dermal fillers, fat grafting or paranasal silicone implants but as the immune system may react to silicone, try fillers and/or fat graft. Or a quick fix is drinking water to reexpand facial cells!
 

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I just realised it has been 3 years since I started my plastic surgery beauty rejuvenation turning 50 project. Here is a side profile collage from witchy poo profile to Barbie doll side profile. Keep your old photos as over time you forget where you started! The time line is bottom left Feb 2016, bottom right May 2016 before Korea, top right June 2016 and top left Feb 2019. If you want me to look at your befores and advise, send me a PM. Anything is possible! :smile:
 

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Today's post is on metal implant allergies. I had chin bone shaving in the UK with no metal screws and the chin reduction made a remarkable improvement to my side profile. However the reason why I am holding off on zygoma reduction to reduce the wide width of my face is that I am already allergic to nickel in cheap jewelry, to the gortex premaxilla facial implant I tried and to textured silicone breast implants, so my chances are high I would react to the titanium plate and screws used in zygoma reduction which cannot be removed for a year for stability after the maxilla and zygomatic arch bones are fractured and moved.

Here is a summary of the symptoms of metal allergy/poisoning as the immune system of some may react to a foreign body as mine has in the past with histiocytes attacking the silicone in my path report on explant. If you suffer from eczema or contact dermatitis, your body may be more likely to react to foreign body implants with chronic inflammation, infection, etc.

So until they invent zygoma reduction without plate and screws, I will continue to use makeup contouring and hair styling to reduce the facial width..
 

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Today's post is on metal implant allergies. I had chin bone shaving in the UK with no metal screws and the chin reduction made a remarkable improvement to my side profile. However the reason why I am holding off on zygoma reduction to reduce the wide width of my face is that I am already allergic to nickel in cheap jewelry, to the gortex premaxilla facial implant I tried and to textured silicone breast implants, so my chances are high I would react to the titanium plate and screws used in zygoma reduction which cannot be removed for a year for stability after the maxilla and zygomatic arch bones are fractured and moved.

Here is a summary of the symptoms of metal allergy/poisoning as the immune system of some may react to a foreign body as mine has in the past with histiocytes attacking the silicone in my path report on explant. If you suffer from eczema or contact dermatitis, your body may be more likely to react to foreign body implants with chronic inflammation, infection, etc.

So until they invent zygoma reduction without plate and screws, I will continue to use makeup contouring and hair styling to reduce the facial width..

I had Two-Jaw Surgery three weeks ago and of course, titanium plates and screws which will only be removed in about 6 months were used to stabilize my jaws. I am also highly allergic to nickel, copper, platin, silver and gold to the point where I can not even wear rings on my fingers. What I did was to buy earrings made of titanium (although my surgeon already said there's almost no chance someone would have an allergic reaction to titanium) and watch if anything happens. Usually, using gold earrings, I'd have experienced a reaction in a matter of hours, but I wore them day and night for weeks and nothing happened, so in the end I went into the surgery without having to worry about allergic reactions! No guarantee on this, but that's what I did. :biggrin:
 
I had Two-Jaw Surgery three weeks ago and of course, titanium plates and screws which will only be removed in about 6 months were used to stabilize my jaws. I am also highly allergic to nickel, copper, platin, silver and gold to the point where I can not even wear rings on my fingers. What I did was to buy earrings made of titanium (although my surgeon already said there's almost no chance someone would have an allergic reaction to titanium) and watch if anything happens. Usually, using gold earrings, I'd have experienced a reaction in a matter of hours, but I wore them day and night for weeks and nothing happened, so in the end I went into the surgery without having to worry about allergic reactions! No guarantee on this, but that's what I did. :biggrin:
Thank you @velvettini. Wow that is promising. I guess it wasn't until the 6th year that my body reacted to the textured silicone implant and the gortex premaxilla implant so maybe my body can cope with 6 months to a year of titanium. My fear is my body reacted to the permanent sutures embedded inside my nose and I had an abscess infection 2.5 weeks postop. Had to have the sutures moved with another rhino at 2 months.
 
Thank you @velvettini. Wow that is promising. I guess it wasn't until the 6th year that my body reacted to the textured silicone implant and the gortex premaxilla implant so maybe my body can cope with 6 months to a year of titanium. My fear is my body reacted to the permanent sutures embedded inside my nose and I had an abscess infection 2.5 weeks postop. Had to have the sutures moved with another rhino at 2 months.



Hello Ms O

Just found this Elasticum Facelift that claimed to lift smas layer as well and last for 5 years according to Topface ps.


Maybe it can be a solution when you keep being refused smas?

Have you done any research on this Ms O?

Please let me know your thinking

Thank you dear
 
Hello Ms O

Just found this Elasticum Facelift that claimed to lift smas layer as well and last for 5 years according to Topface ps.


Maybe it can be a solution when you keep being refused smas?

Have you done any research on this Ms O?

Please let me know your thinking

Thank you dear
Hi @Gorme,

Wow I have not heard of elasticum facelift. I shall look into it. I had my hair done yesterday and lo and behold my new hair colourist has titanium screws in his cheeks! He has no problems with them. I am back to obsessing about zygoma reduction. Lol. But all my friends say no to me so unless I can find 10 people who say yes, I need it, then best to play it safe.
 
Hi @Gorme,

Wow I have not heard of elasticum facelift. I shall look into it. I had my hair done yesterday and lo and behold my new hair colourist has titanium screws in his cheeks! He has no problems with them. I am back to obsessing about zygoma reduction. Lol. But all my friends say no to me so unless I can find 10 people who say yes, I need it, then best to play it safe.
@MissOrange I will definitely say no to you. Despite zygoma reduction helps in reducing the "width" of the face, it is going to cause sagging in another 1-2 years' time. Then you will need to spend another 10-20k for facelift. And zygoma reduction doesn't help in your side profile at all.
 
I had Two-Jaw Surgery three weeks ago and of course, titanium plates and screws which will only be removed in about 6 months were used to stabilize my jaws. I am also highly allergic to nickel, copper, platin, silver and gold to the point where I can not even wear rings on my fingers. What I did was to buy earrings made of titanium (although my surgeon already said there's almost no chance someone would have an allergic reaction to titanium) and watch if anything happens. Usually, using gold earrings, I'd have experienced a reaction in a matter of hours, but I wore them day and night for weeks and nothing happened, so in the end I went into the surgery without having to worry about allergic reactions! No guarantee on this, but that's what I did. :biggrin:
Hello Miss Orange,
May I ask your opinion on zygoma reduction using dissolvable screws? The material for the screws is not metal but an organic compound that will dissolve over time. I heard that Namu , Opera, and TFD offer this option for zygoma reduction but not for mandible or chin bone contouring.
 
Hello Miss Orange,
May I ask your opinion on zygoma reduction using dissolvable screws? The material for the screws is not metal but an organic compound that will dissolve over time. I heard that Namu , Opera, and TFD offer this option for zygoma reduction but not for mandible or chin bone contouring.
Hi @francoise_b I have not researched dissolvable screws. One would need to check what material they use and talk to patients who tried this.
 
Just an update on prices of explants +/- lifts in the UK. The oncoplastic surgeon Mrs Harding-Mackean is offering en bloc removal of breast implants for £2987 but will only accept patients local to Chester which is near Liverpool. She was inundated with requests worldwide with her super low price for en bloc removal and lift for £3710-£4100 and again stresses she only wishes to operate on local ladies.

That leaves transpire as the next cheapest for removal and lift for under £4k.

The best for removal and no lift in my opinion is Guy Sterne in Birmingham for £4013 and he accepts patients worldwide. in my opinion, the best for en bloc removal and high lift is Cambridge grad David Floyd based in London. He charges £8k at Spire Bushey near Watford or £8.8k at the Wellington in London. Other commendable surgeons for removal with lift are Dr Frati for £7k in London and Dr Ouba in Edinburgh. The best for breast fat transfer in the uk in my opinion is Dr David Floyd whose patient posted a 6 month update photo with no fat absorption!

A 9 week post en bloc removal update..my dry eyes came back but now just comes and goes and on a scale of 1-10 is a 2-3 for nuisance. Much better than the 8-9 it was pre explant with pain, blurry vision, aching etc. I have been able to drink champagne again! No more melena, no heartburn and no weird vinegar acidic taste. My path report showed histiocytes reacting to the leaking silicone. So I do believe in breast implant illness and would encourage all ladies to explant your textured silicone implants and consider fat transfer instead in future.

I have my 3 yearly nhs mammogram tomorrow and am needing to decide on 0.4 mSvs of radiation or just skip as I have no fhx of breast cancer, am not obese (fat can be carcinogenic), do not take hrt and do not smoke. The thought of compressed breasts is scaring me as I am still recovering from intercostal muscle strain as my implants were under my pectoralis muscle.
 
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