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Here's another answer on local explantation from a board-certified PS on Realself. Apparently I would be considered the patient in "appropriate circumstances," for an explant under local. I was admittedly quite brave to do it (not sure I could do it now haha but honestly it wasn't that bad and no pain), but I was mentally prepared, no complications known, soft capsule, newer implants, and trusted the hospital and its doctors. I am not recommending it or not recommending it--I'm no medical professional, just sharing my own experience. I did not have IV sedation either, just local injections.

Here is the link: https://www.realself.com/question/breast-implants-removal-local-anesthesia-safe-pain

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Local Anesthesia Is An Option


Patient’s occasionally require removal of their breast implants for a variety of reasons.When this situation arises, the procedure is usually performed under general anesthesia.It’s important to realize that under the appropriate circumstances, explantation can easily be performed under local anesthesia.In most cases, local anesthesia is supplemented with IV sedation.
 
A friend told me I had to choose face over body, meaning make sure I weigh close to 100 lbs and forget having k pop matchstick thighs so that my face fg looks good vs do not drop below 98 lbs else my face looks gaunt and my body looks super. I worried that ulthera had melted my lower face fg but looking at my holiday photos from last week at 99.8 lbs, my lower face looks fine! I was 96.8 lbs when I got ulthera + face fg at mvp in Feb of last year. So maybe @atomgrrl it can be done together but you have to gain 3 lbs to help the lower face fg after ulthera.

I am learning hys selfie tips and used my collar to hide part of my face lol.
You look so youthful! Goals
 
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@MissOrange I’ve been reading your posts about correcting the philtrum. I’m starting to see signs of aging (early 30’s) and I think my elongating philtrum and nasolabial folds are doing this so I’m planning to get fg and philtrum correcting. Do you still recommend MVP for this? What was your healing like for philtrum correction (was there bruising? Did you heal within a week?) and how far apart was your fg top up?
Hi @BigBrownEyedGir ,

Apologies I only read your post now. No I would not recommend lip lift at mvp as they do vermillion approach which cuts into the border of your upper lip and did not last. A lady from hong kong also got vermillion lip lift at mvp when we both wanted bullhorn lip lift. We have both since got definitive bullhorn lip lift which is more permanent, I with Dr Caroline Mills in London and she with Dr Mascaro in Florida. Imo vermillion lasts less than 6 months. My bullhorn is going strong at over 2 years now.
 
Hi @catelet explant under local is fine for ladies with no bii symptoms but the reason for explant is to remove all risk of ALCL lymphoma and that means removal en bloc with the capsule scars around them. This type of dissection requires a much longer incision and is more invasive with increased risk of bleeding from tissue cutting. Some ladies are still unwell with bii after the surgeon left the capsules behind and have paid someone else to go back in and remove the capsule scars.

An update on healing. At 3.5 weeks postop I finally got back nipple sensation on both sides! I could tell the nerves were regenerating as I got prickly pins and needles sensation for days leading to the nerve recovery.

I am aware that postop swelling allowed me to fit into a 32dd bra but now after the swelling has gone down, I am still happy to fit in a 32d bra and have discovered the M&S Rosie silk mix autograph range rrp £27.50 which sellers on ebay are listing for as low as £6 for last season styles! I have now bought the same in ivory and black.

Here is a side by side with supermodel Rosie in black and me in the same version but in red! For anyone considering a breast lift, I would advise you see all the breast lift photos on realself as they post without nipple covers to decide whether you can cope psychologically with the transplanted nipple mutilation look as even now I have pursestring raised skin wrinkling around the uneven larger sized nipples at pod 26. But maybe the nipples will improve over time? Shall keep you posted. Thank heavens for bras. I haven't tried VS bras as assuming they would cost a fortune! In my £6 ebay M&S rosie silk mix bra! I love bargains!
 

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It is February and a year since my full face fat graft with ulthera with Dr Seo at mvp. He asked me when I would be back. I said a year but looking at my face, I have finally achieved a permanent level of fat transfer! My upper lids are full even at a bmi of 18.5 or 97.8 lbs!

To think I turn 53 soon. I am in my second year of studying korean at the London Korean School subsidized by the Korean government and am learning the song Siren for our class end of term karaoke dinner in New Malden. Hoping to be fluent enough in korean to get a bigger discount on smas lower facelift when I turn 60! lol

Here I am taking selfies at Sky news studio in Osterley before my interview on fitbits. Excuse my poor posture in the chair.

 

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It is February and a year since my full face fat graft with ulthera with Dr Seo at mvp. He asked me when I would be back. I said a year but looking at my face, I have finally achieved a permanent level of fat transfer! My upper lids are full even at a bmi of 18.5 or 97.8 lbs!

To think I turn 53 soon. I am in my second year of studying korean at the London Korean School subsidized by the Korean government and am learning the song Siren for our class end of term karaoke dinner in New Malden. Hoping to be fluent enough in korean to get a bigger discount on smas lower facelift when I turn 60! lol

Here I am taking selfies at Sky news studio in Osterley before my interview on fitbits. Excuse my poor posture in the chair.


@MissOrange Wow! You are looking good and young! Please don't go for zygoma reduction. You should be able to hold off facelift until you are 60! :)
 
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For those considering removal of your silicone or saline in silicone casing implants, I can recommend for en bloc removal+ lollipop lift either Dr David Floyd (£8-9k) or Dr Frati (£7k) both in London based on seeing their real patients posting their b+a results and for en bloc removal and no lift £4k Dr Guy Sterne of Birmingham.

On the 28th of this month I get my pathology results from the explanted implants and capsule scars which are being tested for ALCL lymphoma. Remember with no implants, you reduce your risk of alcl lymphoma to 0%. Nowadays autologous breast FT in the hands of a qualified and experienced plastic surgeon may achieve similar results to implants. Safety first.
 
Hi @BigBrownEyedGir ,

Apologies I only read your post now. No I would not recommend lip lift at mvp as they do vermillion approach which cuts into the border of your upper lip and did not last. A lady from hong kong also got vermillion lip lift at mvp when we both wanted bullhorn lip lift. We have both since got definitive bullhorn lip lift which is more permanent, I with Dr Caroline Mills in London and she with Dr Mascaro in Florida. Imo vermillion lasts less than 6 months. My bullhorn is going strong at over 2 years now.

Wow good to know, thank you @MissOrange for taking the time to answer. I’ll be sure to ask for bullhorn lip loft!

Also not sure if you’re familiar but do you think a sub brow lift is worth it? One side of my eyebrow is lower (just naturally ever since I was born). In my early twenties I had my eyebrows permanently tattooed and the tattooist mentioned it too (I always knew) and she tattooed my eyebrow on the lower side a bit higher to compensate. Now in my mid thirties I want to permanently correct it with a sub brow lift - have you heard of this? Do you think it’s worth it?
 
Wow good to know, thank you @MissOrange for taking the time to answer. I’ll be sure to ask for bullhorn lip loft!

Also not sure if you’re familiar but do you think a sub brow lift is worth it? One side of my eyebrow is lower (just naturally ever since I was born). In my early twenties I had my eyebrows permanently tattooed and the tattooist mentioned it too (I always knew) and she tattooed my eyebrow on the lower side a bit higher to compensate. Now in my mid thirties I want to permanently correct it with a sub brow lift - have you heard of this? Do you think it’s worth it?
@BigBrownEyedGir I don't think plastic surgeons in korea do bullhorn lip lift as they fear ladies may complain of the scar so do not fall for the bait and switch to vermillion in korea.

As for subbrow lift I can't comment as I am trying to do the opposite. I noticed I look younger and better if I can reduce the distance between my brows and eyes so I pencil in my brows from below.
 
Today I went to my first korean karaoke! Just my luck they didn't have Siren by Sunmi so I sang You raise me up by Westlife instead and looked like a high school kid! The full face fat graft with Dr Seo Feb 2018 looks permanent, which means I don't see Dr Seo until I am 60 and can ask him to do my smas lower facelift. Really odd feeling not having anything to fix. Best to stop while I am ahead.

I now have to try this new on the market L'Oreal purple shampoo to take the brassy colour out of the L'Oreal excellence number 9 light blonde hair dye as my hair is starting to look more orange-red than blonde.
 

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View attachment 4336436 Did you get the ‘all clear?’ I presume you must have.
Lower facelift and SMAS are different ops I’m sure.
Here’s SMAS by Jacono he also did eyes and bullhorn liplift
Hi @SheOnlyLooks25 I don't get my pathology results until my postop appointment which is at almost 8 weeks or Feb 28.

Here is a must viewing for all ladies considering breast implants. It is given by Dr Mark Clemens, America's top leading expert on breast implant associated anaplastic large cell lymphoma.

I went to a talk given by our UK's leading expert Dr Suzanne Turner of Cambridge university and she said textured implants cause our body's immune system to proliferate TH17 or t helper cells 17 to attack the bacteria which collects in the textured pockets (Clemens thinks are Gram negative bacteria), the toxins in the implant capsule (trade secret is legal) and the foreign body implant itself. The constsnt chronic inflammatory response may lead to lymphoma when some of the th17 cells mutate to become lymphoma!

At the moment they suggest using smooth implants but it may only be a matter of time before we learn of how our immune system reacts to longterm use of smooth as it too is made of silicone and other trade secret materials which act as a constant foreign body.

The video has some gruesome images of undiagnosed breast alcl. I think a lot of doctors are more aware of common breast cancer which occurs in 1 in 9 ladies. And because of this concern, i do not smoke, drink very little, keep my weight normal as obesity ie increased fat is also a cancer risk factor, do not take hrt, only tried the coc once in my life decades ago and stopped, and have now stopped drinking water from plastic bottles.
 
Hi @SheOnlyLooks25 I don't get my pathology results until my postop appointment which is at almost 8 weeks or Feb 28.

Here is a must viewing for all ladies considering breast implants. It is given by Dr Mark Clemens, America's top leading expert on breast implant associated anaplastic large cell lymphoma.

I went to a talk given by our UK's leading expert Dr Suzanne Turner of Cambridge university and she said textured implants cause our body's immune system to proliferate TH17 or t helper cells 17 to attack the bacteria which collects in the textured pockets (Clemens thinks are Gram negative bacteria), the toxins in the implant capsule (trade secret is legal) and the foreign body implant itself. The constsnt chronic inflammatory response may lead to lymphoma when some of the th17 cells mutate to become lymphoma!

At the moment they suggest using smooth implants but it may only be a matter of time before we learn of how our immune system reacts to longterm use of smooth as it too is made of silicone and other trade secret materials which act as a constant foreign body.

The video has some gruesome images of undiagnosed breast alcl. I think a lot of doctors are more aware of common breast cancer which occurs in 1 in 9 ladies. And because of this concern, i do not smoke, drink very little, keep my weight normal as obesity ie increased fat is also a cancer risk factor, do not take hrt, only tried the coc once in my life decades ago and stopped, and have now stopped drinking water from plastic bottles.


What is hrt and coc? How do you drink your water?
 
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What is hrt and coc? How do you drink your water?
Hi @arnott, hrt is hormone replacement therapy for postmenopausal symptoms. I don't take that. Instead I take daily calcium and vitamin D supplements for my bones and do not have ice cream at bedtime as this used to give me night hot flushes. I think processed sugar may trigger night sweats or hot flushes. Coc is combined oral contraceptive. In the early 1990s when hiv and aids were rampant with no cure, there was a massive push to use condoms and not just rely on the pill. I had side effects on the pill for one month so stopped. Back in the 1980s American universities handed out the pill to all students who asked for free! Big Pharma wanted to hook as many young ladies early. Some of my female friends and even my own sister had awful side effects from decades of pill usage. My sister had fibroids, endometriosis, and ovarian cyst! I drink water from glass bottles. I use an online drinks supermarket that delivers cases of glass bottles of still mineral water like you see in hotel rooms for a bargain price and glass is also recycleable. Chilled water from a glass bottle tastes better imo too!
 
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