How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[SamH]

Woooow

You look sooo good, especially in the picture where you have no makeup because it looks so natural. I just contacted MVP for fat graft and eyelid surgery and they're quite prompt. Did dr seo do your fat graft?

I'm also considering FRESH clinic. What do you think of them?

 

[Gats]

I can't say enough how much I appreciate MissOrange's sharing so much with us. One day I hope I get to be as secure with myself as you are to be able to share so much to benefit others.

Regarding the fat grafting, I think younger people can get away with full face FG due to their skin elasticity, but as you get older, I'd stick to the areas you mentioned (forehead, temples, upper lids) while avoiding the lower since it's prone to drooping if too much volume the skin can't support is added. Looking young is having that heart shaped face which we lose as we age, so plumping up the upper half and leaving the bottom alone should still yield good results.

Perhaps because they do more full face FGs of patients in their 20s they automatically recommend it but if you're older too. That all over baby face look does look more youthful but it's just not something you can maintain as you get older.

 

[MissOrange]

Woooow

You look sooo good, especially in the picture where you have no makeup because it looks so natural. I just contacted MVP for fat graft and eyelid surgery and they're quite prompt. Did dr seo do your fat graft?

I'm also considering FRESH clinic. What do you think of them?

Hi @SamH, I met someone who had full face fg at FRESH with top up in September. Apparently Fresh is really close to MVP, ie around the corner I am told. But his eyelid fat graft had gone completely. His cheeks looked nice not overfilled. I think price wise both clinics are similar. I would personally go with MVP as you are getting eyelid surgery too and Dr Seo can do both in the same operation and you can ask for a discount for multiple ops. Yes Dr Seo did my eyelid fat graft and eyelid surgery. I am counting down the days to see him in Feb for an eyelid top up as believe it or not, I want a hooded younger look to my eyes. It will take the fat graft from 80% currently to a full 100%. @Gats thank you for your kind words. At my old age, it is normal to have some old ugly photos! lol. I don"t think young girls would want to share ugly photos and that is quite understandable but when you reach my age, it feels good to help others and yes photos help enormously. If I was stuck with an old ugly photo, no I would go away and hide but as I was able to have successful ps among my unsuccessful ones, I share freely so others can just follow my steps to rejuvenation. And yes, @Gats you make a good point! Young people have more skin elasticity so may be able to cope with full face fg better! Ooh and I like that point, heart shaped face with fg in the upper part. Yay!

 

[MissOrange]

Today's post is on rhinoplasty and why you must only embark on this dangerous journey if your nose is severely deformed or broken. I am now 19 months post rhinoplasty with Ion and still look at my nose in the mirror each day asking myself if my nose is a good nose or a bad nose. I remember my consultation thinking oh wow you can give me a big nose. Sounds so simple. Wow, the morph picture shows a really big nose like magic. But when I went home and thought about it a little voice said, your little nose is fine, maybe you should cancel the rhino and just do the chin reduction. But then another voice said ooh nice big nose like Jun Ji Hyun and so simple to do. Just book, pay and wake up with Jun Ji Hyun's nose. And sure enough I did just that in March 2016 and woke up with Jun Ji Hyun's big nose that only lasted 2.5 weeks before it contracted and rotated up and stayed rotate up and short even after another rhino in May 2016.

It has been 19 months and I now ask myself whether the small short nose is actually better suited for my face? On my last trip to SK in April of this year I had booked consultations with tlps and gng to discuss zygoma reduction and revision rhino. Thank goodness I ran out of time to visit either as I could easily have ended up with further bone surgery and a different nose. But it does highlight how easily it is to be lured into a pursuit for the perfect nose. I then started reading all the Ion nose reviews on rs and why some were happy or unhappy with their noses. Sometimes I could see why they were unhappy, other times not and sometimes I couldn't see why they were happy with an imperfect nose and then even the ones who were initially unhappy eventually became happy with their noses! There didn't seem to be one perfect nose that fits all.

I think rhino is an extremely difficult operation and should only be contemplated in serious botched or deformed nose cases. It is not like trying on a dress and changing your mind and giving it away or refunding it. Once your nose is altered with surgery, because it is in the middle of your face and cannot be disguised with lipliner or false eyelashes, you have to see it every time you wash your face, brush your teeth, apply makeup or take a selfie. I can only alter it slightly with contouring.

Thank you readers who have been reassuring me that my nose is fine as it is and not to touch it. I think we all have blindspots and need a stranger to tell us what they see. Yes it could be improved but the price is too high of ending up with a nose one cannot live with and that risk makes rhino an extremely dangerous operation. And thank you readers and scrupulous clinics and max fax surgeon who said I do not need zygoma reduction. If you see someone who does not need a procedure, please continue to tell them so. It will sink in. Meanwhile here is a collage of an asian model with a nice big long nose and small face above one of my big Ion nose of 2.5 weeks and on the left my nose this week. The bottom photo is of my dream to look like Jun Ji Hyun! No wonder I keep looking at my nose which looks like the exact opposite of her nose. lol. I think having doctor friends with serious life threatening illnesses puts things into better perspective.

 

[MissOrange]

I have uploaded a facetouchup app to morph the front of my face. I now know why I do not look so good from the front. The nose is too short (over-rotated) and piggy (too much nostril show). By using the morph to rotate and lower the tip, the face looks so much better on the right! But I have no confidence in finding a rhino specialist to achieve this for me for now. It is probably the toughest type of rhino to correct.

 

[MissOrange]

Oh my goodness no wonder I had second thoughts about rhinoplasty! These are my selfies from February 24, 2016! There was nothing wrong with my nose! I did not need rhinoplasty with Ion!!!

 

[MissOrange]

It is a shame I did not ask a stranger to check my blind spot last year. I went ahead with rhino with Ion in March to get a 'big nose'. He should have said there was nothing wrong with my nose? My Korean father had died in February 2016 and I was not in the right frame of mind. I see that now. I remember my doc friend even threatened to contact Ion to stop him from operating on my nose and was surprised he agreed to rhino. Here are the photos of the big nose postop in March. Wow I messed with a normal nose!

 

[MissOrange]

Maybe it was not bad luck but good luck that led to my nose getting infected and the graft contracting to give me back a more normal sized nose for my face! Please, think 10x before proceeding with rhino! You may never have needed it in the first place! I am shocked at this personal realisation and perhaps more so that Ion agreed to operate on a normal looking nose!

 

[Luv n bags]

Thank you for sharing your story. Your nose looked pretty darn good without surgery. I think we are our own worst critics!

If I had the money, I would do some of the things you have done. Especially the FG around the eyes.

If it isn’t too personal to ask, how much have you spent on your rejuvenation? In US dollars? I am trying to figure out how much I need to save!

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @tigertrixie, ok slept on the realisation of how stupid I was last year to proceed with rhino and to proceed with full face fat graft. Funnily Ellen at MVP said no you do not need full face fat graft and then I went behind her back and got it done at DA x 3. Aargh. She was right. I just needed eyelid fat graft. So the question is how much have I wasted on unnecessary ops or ops that did not last. lol. In us dollars, I did not need the $10k rhino so cross that off your list if your nose is not grossly deformed. The minimum spend needed was revision des (blepharoplasty to excise excess wrinkly lid skin) and eyelid fat graft to fill out the hollow. That cost $2600 plus the hotel and flight to korea $1500 or $4100 total. If your philtrum is 20 mms long then do bullhorn liplift which cost me $3200. The vermillion lip lift was a wasted $2400 but then it did remove lip filler lumps so not entirely a wasted op. Now I do my own radiesse nasolabial dermal filler for $400 a year.

 

[Luv n bags]

Hi @tigertrixie, ok slept on the realisation of how stupid I was last year to proceed with rhino and to proceed with full face fat graft. Funnily Ellen at MVP said no you do not need full face fat graft and then I went behind her back and got it done at DA x 3. Aargh. She was right. I just needed eyelid fat graft. So the question is how much have I wasted on unnecessary ops or ops that did not last. lol. In us dollars, I did not need the $10k rhino so cross that off your list if your nose is not grossly deformed. The minimum spend needed was revision des (blepharoplasty to excise excess wrinkly lid skin) and eyelid fat graft to fill out the hollow. That cost $2600 plus the hotel and flight to korea $1500 or $4100 total. If your philtrum is 20 mms long then do bullhorn liplift which cost me $3200. The vermillion lip lift was a wasted $2400 but then it did remove lip filler lumps so not entirely a wasted op. Now I do my own radiesse nasolabial dermal filler for $400 a year.

The prices you quoted are cheap! In the US, everything is so much more.

I do not need eyelid surgery, however, I have friends that have done that. The cost was double what you paid. I also have friends that I suspect had full face FG. For their age (mid 50’s), their faces are line free and puffy like a young baby. Sometimes their faces look pudgier than normal.

The only thing I would like if FG around the eyes. I spent too much time in the sun as a younger person.

How do yo do your own fillers?

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @tigertrixie, I am a doctor so dermal fillers are easy. Oddly dermal fillers may be purchased without a prescription as it is not a prescription drug. I suppose anyone with a medical background, nurses or doctors may take courses and learn to inject. Getting just fat graft in the lids would cost 500,000-1 million won or $450-$900. But it needs to be done by a top experienced plastic surgeon as the complications are infection, non take of fat graft, blindness and stroke!

 

[Luv n bags]

Hi @tigertrixie, I am a doctor so dermal fillers are easy. Oddly dermal fillers may be purchased without a prescription as it is not a prescription drug. I suppose anyone with a medical background, nurses or doctors may take courses and learn to inject. Getting just fat graft in the lids would cost 500,000-1 million won or $450-$900. But it needs to be done by a top experienced plastic surgeon as the complications are infection, non take of fat graft, blindness and stroke!

That makes sense since you are a doc!

This has nothing to do with the face, but I had a double mastectomy due to cancer. Part of the recon is FG. I have had three rounds, and none of it took. This was over a three year period. I would be worried that my body absorbs the fat very quickly.

Have you had any experience with fillers in the upper and lower lids?

 

[catelet]

I can't say enough how much I appreciate MissOrange's sharing so much with us. One day I hope I get to be as secure with myself as you are to be able to share so much to benefit others.

I couldn't agree more!! MissOrange answers all of our questions openly and honestly, and truly tries to help others here on this forum.

MissOrange thanks for sharing the pics of your nose and what you've been through with it. I do think your nose now looks great though as well! I agree where you said it looks young and that's a good thing in my opinion!!! Especially as we age.

Sorry to hear about what you went through re: your father's death. Hugs.

 

[dannythedragon]

@MissOrange
@catelet
I agree with Catelet that MissOrange tries to help others even though she has been through a lot which makes me admire her even more.