How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Hi @K Couture,

My LL scar went from red to pink to white but became raised so at 1 year at my 1 year follow up I asked for kenalog injection and she injected deep and within a week the scar flattened and shrank to a tiny white line. Without makeup one can see it if one knows to look for the thin white line up close else it is not obvious. Makeup makes the scar invisible. I have just read 10 pages of reviews on CO2 for LL scars on @missliplift's IG page. Her IG is a wealth of knowledge on LLs. She concluded that Caucasian ladies respond well to CO2 but non Caucasians appear to end up with worse scars, dents, atrophy, wider scar etc. I was debating whether to try CO2 laser for my wide periareolar scar as I have my follow up in 10 days at the burns unit, but am terrified if it worsens the scar which is already wide, raised, with variable hyperpigmentation. I had such a horrific third degree burn from a ktp laser that it has taken me a year to reconsider laser which the burns unit consultant says would help if CO2 and not KTP.
Traditional CO2 is
No im not. Im an investor in a plastic surgery hospital in thailand (im not thai btw so im not culturally inclined to those shadey business antics youll find in countries like thailand) and i import medical technology from korea and germany into my hospital. Anyways because of this I've attended seminars and met with various surgeons and done lots of medical research. Thats mainly where my knowledge of the industry comes from. That and im also a plastic surgery junkie lol. Ive done everything so far besides my lips, which i plan to do soon in korea once that stupid hotel quarantine is removed. -_-

Also, make sure the doctors you are speaking to are plastic surgeons. A close friend of mine is a lasik eye surgeon and he himself doesnt know much about it. Just like how a plastic surgeon's knowledge on autoimmune diseases cannot compare with an immunologist.

Yeh lumps can happen more often in the breast than face when fg is used due to the sheer volume and forced compaction of the transplant site. I was wanting to add some fg to my breast augmentation for added cleavage but I had used up all my fat available (300cc) during my bbl. I dont have enough fat anymore unfortunately -_-.
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Hi @K Couture,

My LL scar went from red to pink to white but became raised so at 1 year at my 1 year follow up I asked for kenalog injection and she injected deep and within a week the scar flattened and shrank to a tiny white line. Without makeup one can see it if one knows to look for the thin white line up close else it is not obvious. Makeup makes the scar invisible. I have just read 10 pages of reviews on CO2 for LL scars on @missliplift's IG page. Her IG is a wealth of knowledge on LLs. She concluded that Caucasian ladies respond well to CO2 but non Caucasians appear to end up with worse scars, dents, atrophy, wider scar etc. I was debating whether to try CO2 laser for my wide periareolar scar as I have my follow up in 10 days at the burns unit, but am terrified if it worsens the scar which is already wide, raised, with variable hyperpigmentation. I had such a horrific third degree burn from a ktp laser that it has taken me a year to reconsider laser which the burns unit consultant says would help if CO2 and not KTP.
Ah yes kenalog is my best friend. Me being the queen of keloids I inject that very often. Lucky for my facial work I don't scar much but the skin of the body reacts very differently to facial scars. I find korean surgeons want you to wait a month before using kenalog/kenacort but I recall mendelson used it on me 10 days post op my concentric malar lift and it worked wonders. Maybe I can convince my lip lift surgeon to do it like this too as a preventative measure.
 
I looked it up, wonder why I've never heard of Renuva before! The information I found mostly comes from last fall so it must be new, I'll have to keep my eye on it...


Would you mind sharing the link? The videos I clicked on before weren't available anymore
Hi @LostClock, I have added a video at 6.5 weeks to youtube. Here is the link.
 
Hi @LostClock here is the 60+ yo lady I befriended who had her facelift with Nick weeks before me. I chatted with 3 recent patients of Nick and saw their b&a photos so knew he made them all more beautiful and younger and followed one lady a year out on instagram. Hard to believe she is in her 60s! I have seen private photos of her and she could even pass for a teen in her frontal face view! He gave her youthful eyes too for £1500.

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Im curious, how long did the procedure actually take? Since you did it under local anesthesia Im curious how you dealt with it mentally. I recall you said the pain lasted during the administering of the anesthesia for 5 mins but Im sure you could still feel the pulling, stitching and pressure against your face. How did you handle lying there while all those sensations was occuring? I would have had a panic attack to be honest lol
 
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Im curious, how long did the procedure actually take? Since you did it under local anesthesia Im curious how you dealt with it mentally. I recall you said the pain lasted during the administering of the anesthesia for 5 mins but Im sure you could still feel the pulling, stitching and pressure against your face. How did you handle lying there while all those sensations was occuring? I would have had a panic attack to be honest lol
Hi @K Couture, when I was told it would take 2.5 hours under local, I too thought how am I going to lie still and bear listening to all the sounds and smells of the electric cautery buzzing and the pulling and pressure. I lasted 30 minutes in silence during my bullhorn lip lift and could hear everything and feel pressure. I thought that was the limit of my patience as I can rarely sit still for more than 7 minutes without fidgeting. But the couple work together in theatre. While Nick operates, Orla is a master of chat! She distracted me with a ton of questions and they equally shared about their lives too. The time went by so quickly. It felt like a counselling session where you are asked a zillion questions and by the time you have answered all, time was up. I think they learned everything about my life, family, work before I retired, etc. Imagine Oprah delving into your private life for 2 hours! Lol. If anything I was afraid my talking may affect my results as I would have thought a surgeon would want me to keep my mouth as still as possible. Thank goodness he had done 100s before me. I was also amazed at how he knew how much to pull and trim as my face was full of 40ccs of anaesthetic fluid! How did he know not to pull too tight to avoid cross cheek depression joker lines and enough so it would lift and get rid of the jowls? I guess it is down to experience. I apologised after the surgery as I think I shared too much of my private life! Lol.

Equally I got to learn more about the couple and their family and what motivates them. They were both maxillofacial surgeons when they met and he went on to specialise in plastic surgery and she raised the family and manages the clinic. Their ethos is to help ladies reverse aging and look the best they can be at the most affordable prices possible. None of this malarkey of charging £15-29k for a facelift or that of the U.S. charging $50-$120k. His wife sets the prices and because she is a woman and was a surgeon, she understands how aging affects ladies mentally and does everything she can to make it affordable for ladies up North or for ladies who travel up to York. There is definitely a bias between London plastic surgeons and surgeons up North. Most London surgeons think they are superior to surgeons up North yet Nick is an example of a surgeon up North who is incredibly skilled. When I sat my surgical exams I noticed that surgeons with a posh accent had an easier time passing the surgical exams in London and those without a posh upper class accent had to sit and pass their exams in Scotland or Ireland. I think they are brilliant as they are showing up the London surgeons by showing how good he is and he is not charging a fortune like Kent or London surgeons down south. It reminds me of the bias in Seoul vs Busan. I noticed Nick does not flaunt himself on Instagram like other global surgeons but instead is humble and hides from the spotlight. He focuses on his trade and he has a unique talent. I really enjoyed the one hour he spent with me at consult discussing everything from sutures to placement etc. The fact that he gives his time for free for consults, is incredible in a world where surgeons charge for everything! He even invites consultant plastic surgeons to watch him operate or to spend the day with him. Imagine allowing potential competitors access to his skills! I met one such surgeon when I went for my 9 day postop visit and the look on his face when I said I was 55 and looked much younger thanks to Nick. His jaw dropped to the floor. I wished to find a surgeon who could do a bullhorn lip lift for my face, ie lift the face, soft tissues and muscles under local with longlasting results and found that in Nick. Both Nick and Caroline trained in maxillofacial surgery. Interesting coincidence.

Oh I forgot to add that Nick now offers GA or twilight IV sedation for his VR facelift for nervous ladies who need to be fully sedated. It costs £3k more to cover the extra costs of theatre, staff and recovery etc.

Here are his transparent and affordable prices. https://www.coppergateclinic.co.uk/price-list
 
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Hi @K Couture, when I was told it would take 2.5 hours under local, I too thought how am I going to lie still and bear listening to all the sounds and smells of the electric cautery buzzing and the pulling and pressure. I lasted 30 minutes in silence during my bullhorn lip lift and could hear everything and feel pressure. I thought that was the limit of my patience as I can rarely sit still for more than 7 minutes without fidgeting. But the couple work together in theatre. While Nick operates, Orla is a master of chat! She distracted me with a ton of questions and they equally shared about their lives too. The time went by so quickly. It felt like a counselling session where you are asked a zillion questions and by the time you have answered all, time was up. I think they learned everything about my life, family, work before I retired, etc. Imagine Oprah delving into your private life for 2 hours! Lol. If anything I was afraid my talking may affect my results as I would have thought a surgeon would want me to keep my mouth as still as possible. Thank goodness he had done 100s before me. I was also amazed at how he knew how much to pull and trim as my face was full of 40ccs of anaesthetic fluid! How did he know not to pull too tight to avoid cross cheek depression joker lines and enough so it would lift and get rid of the jowls? I guess it is down to experience. I apologised after the surgery as I think I shared too much of my private life! Lol.

Equally I got to learn more about the couple and their family and what motivates them. They were both maxillofacial surgeons when they met and he went on to specialise in plastic surgery and she raised the family and manages the clinic. Their ethos is to help ladies reverse aging and look the best they can be at the most affordable prices possible. None of this malarkey of charging £15-29k for a facelift or that of the U.S. charging $50-$120k. His wife sets the prices and because she is a woman and was a surgeon, she understands how aging affects ladies mentally and does everything she can to make it affordable for ladies up North or for ladies who travel up to York. There is definitely a bias between London plastic surgeons and surgeons up North. Most London surgeons think they are superior to surgeons up North yet Nick is an example of a surgeon up North who is incredibly skilled. When I sat my surgical exams I noticed that surgeons with a posh accent had an easier time passing the surgical exams in London and those without a posh upper class accent had to sit and pass their exams in Scotland or Ireland. I think they are brilliant as they are showing up the London surgeons by showing how good he is and he is not charging a fortune like Kent or London surgeons down south. It reminds me of the bias in Seoul vs Busan. I noticed Nick does not flaunt himself on Instagram like other global surgeons but instead is humble and hides from the spotlight. He focuses on his trade and he has a unique talent. I really enjoyed the one hour he spent with me at consult discussing everything from sutures to placement etc. The fact that he gives his time for free for consults, is incredible in a world where surgeons charge for everything! He even invites consultant plastic surgeons to watch him operate or to spend the day with him. Imagine allowing potential competitors access to his skills! I met one such surgeon when I went for my 9 day postop visit and the look on his face when I said I was 55 and looked much younger thanks to Nick. His jaw dropped to the floor. I wished to find a surgeon who could do a bullhorn lip lift for my face, ie lift the face, soft tissues and muscles under local with longlasting results and found that in Nick. Both Nick and Caroline trained in maxillofacial surgery. Interesting coincidence.

Here are his transparent and affordable prices. https://www.coppergateclinic.co.uk/price-list
sorry i am confused. Who is orla? See I was awake during the last 10mins of my rhinoplasty with Dr Park. But I was still under the effects of ketamine (Sleep sedation) so I was a idaf mode. Plus I was semi high. Did he only use local anesthesia? Or did he administer some kind of relaxant or ketamine into your iv. You did have an iv yeh?
 
sorry i am confused. Who is orla? See I was awake during the last 10mins of my rhinoplasty with Dr Park. But I was still under the effects of ketamine (Sleep sedation) so I was a idaf mode. Plus I was semi high. Did he only use local anesthesia? Or did he administer some kind of relaxant or ketamine into your iv. You did have an iv yeh?
Hi @K Couture, Orla is his wife who used to be a maxillofacial surgeon herself and she is the clinic manager and also sits through the operations done under local. No ketamine. He only used local anaesthetic via facial injections and filling the face with anaesthetic fluid. No iv.

He has since built an operating theatre equipped for full general anaesthetic with intubation by a consultant anaesthetist. The anaesthetist can also offer iv twilight sedation if a patient prefers not to be intubated. He says he chose an anaesthetist with intensive care background too.
 
In one week I have my follow up appointment at the NHS burns unit. I see the burns surgeon who repaired my third degree ktp laser burn and is also the clinical lead for laser treatment for scars. I am torn between getting CO2 laser or not for my periareolar scars. My choices are live with wide, pigmented scars or try CO2 laser and risk complications as I have very thin skin compared to Caucasian skin. This article shows an amazing result with CO2 laser and the before photos are exactly like what I have now, a year after surgical repair. I have tried 2 rounds of steroid injections which has helped flatten the scars but has not improved the wideness and pigmentation. I shall print off and ask the burns surgeon if this is possible for my scars.

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