How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

I am now 4.5 months post one round of breast FT and I must say this is the way to go...as big as implants without the health risk. Here is a bikini photo from the summer of 2019 6 months after explant vs this month at 4.5 months post FT. My chest size has gone up from 32 inches or 81 cms to 34 inches or 86.3 cms with one round of 145/175 ccs, and my harvested thighs remain a skinny 18 inches. Prices are even cheaper at the Highgate Hospital where David Floyd also operates, ie below £4300 so this works out to cheaper than implants!

 

[Phoenix123]

Incredible, @MissOrange! How are the upper poles doing?

 

[MissOrange]

Incredible, @MissOrange! How are the upper poles doing?

Hi @Phoenix123 they are fine. FT gives you a natural look so the upper poles do not look like implants sitting on a chest but normal breasts. David has put his surgeries on hold during lockdown 3. It really does feel like an island here. Can’t fly out. This lockdown will be a long one, either released in April or even the summer!

 

[Starry Eyes]

Hi again Miss Orange!

I just caught up about 50 pages from where I last left off this forum in 2019.

SOOOO glad you never got the Zygoma surgery, or went through with the FT at Fresh. Dr Hong was always on my wishlist but after reading your account, I’ll never go to him unless he hires an anaesthetist either. thank you so much for opening all of our eyes to that! I am jealous of your amazing results and happy for you!

the last time I posted, I was on a mission to meet the big 40 looking the best version of myself and I think I succeeded. With hifu, fillers and lasers I was happy with how I looked when the date passed and was fit and trim.

Then covid happened and the world went into lockdown. In 3 months I gained 7-8 lbs from a combination of sedentary life and depression. My anxiety, eczema and bruxism went into overdrive and once the clinics opened for non essential services, I got dysport to ease it. I’d done it before a few years ago for the same reason so thought it would be no different.

I was wrong!!! Somehow despite going to a very established doctor, it completely messed up my smile. My upper cheeks and upper lip could not lift and imagine having a semi paralysed lower face.. I couldn’t even open my mouth enough to eat foods of a certain size let alone laugh naturally. Thankfully face masks were mandatory! Keeping them on everywhere was truly a big relief.

Thank god that nightmare wore off after 2 + months of massage and facial exercises, now my smile is back to normal. I will never put it at such risk again. Looking into options to reduce the bruxism naturally now.

As for the weight gain, I managed to lose half of it by working out again but am now conflicted on losing the rest. The reason is what you’ve been telling us, that the face looks more youthful with extra weight. Most of my body look better too, but the stomach is huge. Can most areas looking better justify 1 area looking awful?

And so I booked 2 consults for liposuction. The irony is that I still get rejected for breast fat transfer! Makes me all the more jealous of your result. I was told I need to gain at least 10 lbs more and I don’t want to take the risk of going through so much for a small result. The photos I was shown that could be similar to what I should expect didn’t impress me very much.

But I suspect if I gain another 2-3 lbs for optimum and natural curves before the lipo, the contrast of a flatter smaller stomach against fuller curves could look good enough. I’m encouraged by what you say about the fat not going back to your stomach but to your breasts and butt.

Anyway, was hoping you could advise on what helps the recovery process for abdominal lipo, having done it twice. I’m leaning towards Vaser which is supposed to be gentler, but still hesitant as I have fears about going under GA for the first time as I am sensitive.. most anti congestants still cause drowsiness (but both shortlisted surgeons do employ separate anesthesiologists)

I’m also worried whether compression garments will trigger my chronic dermatitis as they need to be worn 24/7 for the initial weeks.

Look forward to your advice, thanks in advance!

 

[LostClock]

Hello guys! I actually joined this forum because I liked this thread so much (as well as this board in general). Thank you so much MissOrange for taking the time to help out so many people! You already know this but your results are fantastic, too

I'm in my mid-20's but I already have some fine lines around my eyes, on my forehead, and in the laugh line area. I try to take good care of my skin on a daily basis (sunscreen, vitamin C, Tretinoin, etc.) but I feel like my skin should be a bit better at this point.

I'd like to work on this because 1) even if maybe other people don't notice it, I do and I need to be careful with not having my sunscreen/powder settle into my fine lines 2) I feel like it'll be better in the future if I put in effort now rather than wait for it to get bad. At this point I don't think that they necessarily age me.

So, I'm wondering, what would be a good choice for me? I live in Japan so some of the treatments available to me may be different from some of you guys (unfortunately it's very difficult to find discussions on Japanese sites about this, I've noticed in general Japanese people in general don't contribute to online discussions or even ratings for things like this as much but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places). Some clinics here have shots that are supposed to promote collagen production but it's hard to find research on them which makes me wary. I know Japanese so that's not a barrier. It's common for larger procedures for Japanese women to go to Korea instead but of course that's not an option at the moment.

I'm wondering if it'll come down to lasers or Botox? TBH there are other procedures that I am considering + I don't have unlimited funds so cost is a factor for me. I also have some slight hyperpigmentation from acne (which I was considering getting chemical peels for) but in that case maybe laser is the way to go... Thoughts?

(I don't have much experience with cosmetic procedures outside of a short trial of under eye fillers which are gone now, CoolSculpting for the under chin, and the most shallow setting of HIFU but I'll try my best to contribute too!)

 

[MissOrange]

Hi again Miss Orange!

I just caught up about 50 pages from where I last left off this forum in 2019.

SOOOO glad you never got the Zygoma surgery, or went through with the FT at Fresh. Dr Hong was always on my wishlist but after reading your account, I’ll never go to him unless he hires an anaesthetist either. thank you so much for opening all of our eyes to that! I am jealous of your amazing results and happy for you!

the last time I posted, I was on a mission to meet the big 40 looking the best version of myself and I think I succeeded. With hifu, fillers and lasers I was happy with how I looked when the date passed and was fit and trim.

Then covid happened and the world went into lockdown. In 3 months I gained 7-8 lbs from a combination of sedentary life and depression. My anxiety, eczema and bruxism went into overdrive and once the clinics opened for non essential services, I got dysport to ease it. I’d done it before a few years ago for the same reason so thought it would be no different.

I was wrong!!! Somehow despite going to a very established doctor, it completely messed up my smile. My upper cheeks and upper lip could not lift and imagine having a semi paralysed lower face.. I couldn’t even open my mouth enough to eat foods of a certain size let alone laugh naturally. Thankfully face masks were mandatory! Keeping them on everywhere was truly a big relief.

Thank god that nightmare wore off after 2 + months of massage and facial exercises, now my smile is back to normal. I will never put it at such risk again. Looking into options to reduce the bruxism naturally now.

As for the weight gain, I managed to lose half of it by working out again but am now conflicted on losing the rest. The reason is what you’ve been telling us, that the face looks more youthful with extra weight. Most of my body look better too, but the stomach is huge. Can most areas looking better justify 1 area looking awful?

And so I booked 2 consults for liposuction. The irony is that I still get rejected for breast fat transfer! Makes me all the more jealous of your result. I was told I need to gain at least 10 lbs more and I don’t want to take the risk of going through so much for a small result. The photos I was shown that could be similar to what I should expect didn’t impress me very much.

But I suspect if I gain another 2-3 lbs for optimum and natural curves before the lipo, the contrast of a flatter smaller stomach against fuller curves could look good enough. I’m encouraged by what you say about the fat not going back to your stomach but to your breasts and butt.

Anyway, was hoping you could advise on what helps the recovery process for abdominal lipo, having done it twice. I’m leaning towards Vaser which is supposed to be gentler, but still hesitant as I have fears about going under GA for the first time as I am sensitive.. most anti congestants still cause drowsiness (but both shortlisted surgeons do employ separate anesthesiologists)

I’m also worried whether compression garments will trigger my chronic dermatitis as they need to be worn 24/7 for the initial weeks.

Look forward to your advice, thanks in advance!

Hi @Starry Eyes! Noooo to dysport. This form of Botox is known for migrating. Xeomin Botox is better as it stays put where it is injected.

I can totally relate to the weight gain during lockdown and how added fat makes the face look younger but at the expense of a tummy and losing a waist line. I hit a whopping 104 and am now 103.4 lbs. Can’t believe that a year ago in Korea I weighed 95/96 lbs as I enjoyed the walking exercise in Gangnam and eating healthy Korean dishes. In the U.K. we can even order KFC and McDonald’s on a just eat app and delivery is either 50 p for kfc or free for Mcdonalds. I can even order Wagamama for 60 p delivery! That’s less than petrol when not in lockdown. I have bought sugar free chewing gum as I remember my sharp jawline in my 40s was most likely due to chewing gum!

Nooo to Vaser lipo! Your tummy will be filled with tumescent fluid that takes months to reabsorb! I had that for my second abdo lipo and hated it. I loved my first lipo which was traditional lipo with no tumescent fluid or ultrasound. That gave immediate results with a 6 pack.

 

[MissOrange]

Hello guys! I actually joined this forum because I liked this thread so much (as well as this board in general). Thank you so much MissOrange for taking the time to help out so many people! You already know this but your results are fantastic, too

I'm in my mid-20's but I already have some fine lines around my eyes, on my forehead, and in the laugh line area. I try to take good care of my skin on a daily basis (sunscreen, vitamin C, Tretinoin, etc.) but I feel like my skin should be a bit better at this point.

I'd like to work on this because 1) even if maybe other people don't notice it, I do and I need to be careful with not having my sunscreen/powder settle into my fine lines 2) I feel like it'll be better in the future if I put in effort now rather than wait for it to get bad. At this point I don't think that they necessarily age me.

So, I'm wondering, what would be a good choice for me? I live in Japan so some of the treatments available to me may be different from some of you guys (unfortunately it's very difficult to find discussions on Japanese sites about this, I've noticed in general Japanese people in general don't contribute to online discussions or even ratings for things like this as much but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places). Some clinics here have shots that are supposed to promote collagen production but it's hard to find research on them which makes me wary. I know Japanese so that's not a barrier. It's common for larger procedures for Japanese women to go to Korea instead but of course that's not an option at the moment.

I'm wondering if it'll come down to lasers or Botox? TBH there are other procedures that I am considering + I don't have unlimited funds so cost is a factor for me. I also have some slight hyperpigmentation from acne (which I was considering getting chemical peels for) but in that case maybe laser is the way to go... Thoughts?

(I don't have much experience with cosmetic procedures outside of a short trial of under eye fillers which are gone now, CoolSculpting for the under chin, and the most shallow setting of HIFU but I'll try my best to contribute too!)

Welcome @LostClock! Wow flattered you joined because of my thread! You can also find me on Facebook where I chat daily on everything in my private FB.

Okay for fine lines in your mid 20s, yes it can be sorted but do NOT do laser! OMG! Nooooooo. I tried laser for the first time to my periareolar scars and almost lost my right nipple! I will never ever ever do laser again in my entire lifetime! Try either a TCA chemical peel or xeomin Botox. As for the hyperpigmentation, the chemical peel will work or you can buy a small bottle of glycolic acid on eBay and apply yourself. I have tried potato (has natural acid in it) and glycolic acid for my sun spots on my cheeks and back of hands which have faded remarkably.

Btw how come you speak Japanese? Are you Japanese? I love Japanese and Korean films and dramas. In lockdown 3 I am watching a record number of Netflix dramas and am stuck in Empress Ki at the moment. Thank goodness it has 51 episodes! If you can recommend a Japanese film or drama would love to watch too.

 

[MissOrange]

Today’s post is on hair and makeup. I found a free face app literally called face app which adds makeup, glasses, styles your hair, and colours it for free! So I took a selfie and clicked makeup and black hair. I still prefer blonde hair though. Lol. It also has a gender swap feature and an ageing feature where you can see yourself as a child, teen, young or old person! OMG the old person looks like what a normal 55 should look like but if I looked like that I would be so sad. I know you want to see. Okay it is the third photo. Interestingly wearing glasses makes my cheeks look less prominent. No wonder I prefer to wear glasses to give me a smaller face. I don’t need to go to the hair salon, as the app even gives me a lovely long hair blow-dried look! I just clicked long hair! So before you think of plastic surgery, try a change of hair and full makeup first.

 

[AnnMelon]

I love this! Thank you! I'd like to add that I used to have a very long philtrum. I'm 28 and for the past 8 years I've just been pushing my upper lift up with my finger. Its a mindless habit now and my philtrum is a lot shorter. I think if you already have a short philtrum, this might help prevent it from sagging.

 

[LostClock]

Welcome @LostClock! Wow flattered you joined because of my thread! You can also find me on Facebook where I chat daily on everything in my private FB.

Okay for fine lines in your mid 20s, yes it can be sorted but do NOT do laser! OMG! Nooooooo. I tried laser for the first time to my periareolar scars and almost lost my right nipple! I will never ever ever do laser again in my entire lifetime! Try either a TCA chemical peel or xeomin Botox. As for the hyperpigmentation, the chemical peel will work or you can buy a small bottle of glycolic acid on eBay and apply yourself. I have tried potato (has natural acid in it) and glycolic acid for my sun spots on my cheeks and back of hands which have faded remarkably.

Btw how come you speak Japanese? Are you Japanese? I love Japanese and Korean films and dramas. In lockdown 3 I am watching a record number of Netflix dramas and am stuck in Empress Ki at the moment. Thank goodness it has 51 episodes! If you can recommend a Japanese film or drama would love to watch too.

Thank you for the advice! I'll have to think about FB, I'm kind of shy

When I first made my comment I was about half-way through this thread but after finishing everything and doing more research I've decided against lasers. Thank you for the advice! Once things calm down a bit I'm planning on getting Botox for my crows feet. I might get a chemical peel in the mean time...

I learned Japanese by myself! (well I took a few classes too). I'm starting to get into Japanese and Korean dramas more recently. Actually, I just finished My ID is Gangnam Beauty recently which I saw you talking about! Hmm I'll definitely let you know if I think of anything, I'm still a newbie tbh. I feel like there's more Kdramas than Jdrams on Netflix?

Also, does anyone else like to use the app Meitu to reshape your face? It'll automatically detect your facial features and you can play around with them or use the slim tool to push things around (like liquify). It's fun but I have to make sure not to use it for too long

 

[MissOrange]

Thank you for the advice! I'll have to think about FB, I'm kind of shy

When I first made my comment I was about half-way through this thread but after finishing everything and doing more research I've decided against lasers. Thank you for the advice! Once things calm down a bit I'm planning on getting Botox for my crows feet. I might get a chemical peel in the mean time...

I learned Japanese by myself! (well I took a few classes too). I'm starting to get into Japanese and Korean dramas more recently. Actually, I just finished My ID is Gangnam Beauty recently which I saw you talking about! Hmm I'll definitely let you know if I think of anything, I'm still a newbie tbh. I feel like there's more Kdramas than Jdrams on Netflix?

Also, does anyone else like to use the app Meitu to reshape your face? It'll automatically detect your facial features and you can play around with them or use the slim tool to push things around (like liquify). It's fun but I have to make sure not to use it for too long

Wow @LostClock that's amazing you taught yourself Japanese. Yes Netflix is heavy on the KDs rather than JDs. Glad you are not getting laser treatment on your face.

I shall look up Meitu. Thank you for the tip.

 

[alicia K]

HI @SweetPotato1996 yes a long philtrum may make you look older and masculine. Draw lipstick above your upper lip and fill in with red lipstick and then take a picture. It gives you an idea of what philtrum reduction may look like and also how many mms you want the philtrum reduced. The ideal length for a girl is 11-13 mms. In that case it sounds like get the philtrum done first as it is the easiest operation, done under local anaesthesia and takes 30-60 mins but make sure they do not cut into the nasal sill or it may distort the nostrils. The results are immediate. My philtrum is now 12 mms at 1 year postop. It was 11 mms after the operation. At this rate it may mean another philtrum reduction when I am 60!

Hi! Did you experience any nose distortion ? How are the scars ? I'm 18 and am afraid of these two issues. Would you mind telling us what doc did your Lip lift ?

 

[babykyoong]

I went back to Seoul last month for free eyelid fat graft top up with MVP clinic as my eyelids started to hollow a little and top up was included in the original 3 million price back in May 2016. Here is what I look like less than 2 weeks post top up. This time Dr Seo took fat from my tummy through my belly button. The white cream is hydrocortisone 1% which seems to help with my raised bullhorn scar.

What should I do to prevent lump from happening after FG ?

 

[MissOrange]

Hi! Did you experience any nose distortion ? How are the scars ? I'm 18 and am afraid of these two issues. Would you mind telling us what doc did your Lip lift ?

Hi Alicia K, I had steroid injection to the bullhorn scar 1 year after the lip lift. Had it done by Miss Caroline Mills on Wimpole Street. She kindly injected at my 1 year postop. I had no nose distortion as I asked not to cut into the nasal sill.

 

[MissOrange]

What should I do to prevent lump from happening after FG ?

Hi @babykyoong, some people do massage post FG to prevent lumps. I think it depends on the surgeon’s technique.