How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

MissOrange thank you for sharing your journey could you please share your thoughts on Botox please because we value your experience.

Hi @dannythedragon,

I only discovered Botox in my late 30s! It really works wonders for forehead wrinkles, crows feet around the eyes and even the wrinkles under the eyes! Today a sales assistant said I had no lines on my face at all. The best result is if you end up looking more relaxed. Only thing is it does not last and maintenance Botox needs to be done every 2-3 months when it wears off which all adds up costwise.

 

[MissOrange]

Wow! You certainly worked for your retirement and you look young enough to start a new career! Thank you for all your insight. You are an inspiration to those of us who are on a quest to reverse time.

You're welcome @tigertrixie. I will never forget the 60+ year old lady who told me she felt 28 on the inside but had the face and body of an old lady. I thought to myself, with all the modern plastic surgery procedures in the world, surely there is a way one can reverse time and ageing? How sad for her to feel her soul is 28 but have to look at an old wrinkled tired face every morning in the mirror. If only there was a magic wand that could be waved to turn back time and ageing. I truly think Botox, dermal fillers, fat graft and bullhorn lip lift are miracle treatments! I have yet to try a smas facelift and am also tempted to try zygoma reduction. I felt so sorry for the great Hollywood stars who suffered from ageing as these procedures did not exist in their time...Greta Garbo, Vivien Leigh, Farrah Fawcett, etc. They were all my idols growing up.

 

[dannythedragon]

Thanks @MissOrange. I had FG at Fresh recently. It's a bit early to say but I think the results should be good. Having read your posts I am prepared to return a second and maybe a 3rd time and put on a few lbs to get the full benefit. I'm planning to do botox here (150k KWN) but can you please recommend someone in London for botox because to travel to SK just for that probably doesn't make sense.

 

[loves]

I have always been bothered by my strong pointy jaw. To think I had to wait for the sonopet invention to have my chin shaved to a softer more feminine jaw. Here is a tv series photo of me at age 40 with a droopy nose tip from ageing and a prominent jaw and a photo of me at 50 after rib rhino and jaw shaving with sonopet in the UK. My request of the UK plastic surgeon was for an improved and beautiful side profile. Looking even younger was a bonus!

i like your jawline. it's not masculine, but it's strong and strong jaws are good. it's great support for the rest of the facial tissues (i liken it to what an underwire bra does for our breastesses)

i actually have a question regarding fat grafts on eye lids. i've noticed my lids are sunken in due to fat loss and am interested to do that.
i was wondering exactly how many fgs do we need there since it's an area that moves constantly and therefore i'm expecting not much to last. what is your experience? did you do it just once or do you find you needed a top up fg again? thanks!

 

[European95xx_]

Hi @European95xx_ ,

You mentioned acne prone skin. Try changing your pillow cases twice a week and washing your face frequently with a Korean innisfree brand facial jeju volcanic scrub. It worked on my 22 yo daughter. I think any facial scrub would work though. Benzoyl peroxide is also good. Also try to avoid chocolate and crisps if you like sweets.

Hope that helps.

For young Caucasians wear heavy sunscreen to avoid freckles developing on the face which are actually signs of skin damage from the sun!

If it is really hot and sunny outside, I put so much sunscreen on my face that it looks like white liquid caking my face! No one notices as you don sunglasses and a cap too. Sun damage can cause more wrinkling, skin blemishes and brown liver spots! I have stopped powdering my face as when you age your face loses moisture and the foundation looks dry and cakey with powder. Funnily I had oily facial skin in my 20s and now I have dry facial skin in my 50s so moisturise frequently.

It is good to start early with protecting your face from the sun. One of my younger sisters was a sun worshipper and her skin is now completely different from mine. She has lost the soft supple texture and has wide pores and extensive wrinkling. If you hate growing old, start in your teens and protect your face! Sun damage also causes premature skin sagging! Think Japanese Geisha girl and avoid the sun or lather up with 50 spf!

By your 50s the sun damage is already done. I met a group of 50s women and could immediately tell who had been a sunworshipper in the 80s and 90s tanning without sunscreen. That said, you can get chemical peels and scrubs to try to rejuvenate damaged old skin.

P.S. The beach photos took about 15 minutes (had put on sunscreen too) and that was it for sun exposure. Went inside afterwards.

Thank you again so much for your words of wisdom!

I had acne prone skin since middle school. Now the situation has gotten better for me because I´ve met an amazing cosmotologist that´s retired, but she still treats her old patients and sometimes treats new ones if she knows that she can help them. The first time she looked at me she complimented my appearance and said that it´s a shame that my skin is so bad. She immediately advised me to stop putting anything on my face. She said that creams and all of that aren´t for ˝sick˝ skin and of course I listened to her and stopped putting anything to my face and after 6 months I can already see the difference. I feel like my skin looks far more healthier. In a way my cosmo is a bit like you. She also advised me to avoid being too long in the sun because my skin is already damaged and sun exposure would only damage it even more. As someone who lives in a mediterranean country it´s hard to resist going to the beach. We have a beautiful sea here and I just adore diving and swimming and all of that. However I go to the beach when the sun is not as strong and I also go to a beach where there´s plenty of shade so I can still enjoy going to the beach, but at the same time protect my skin. When I was younger I used to like sunbathing, but now when I know how bad it is for the skin I don´t think that I will ever do it again. I have a friend though that likes, how she likes to say, ˝frying herself in the sun like a chicken˝ haha! I keep telling her that she will probably regret it when she gets older, but she just doesn´t care.

I honestly didn´t know that sun damage can even cause premature SAGGING O.O WOW!!! You just opened my eyes even more thank you!

I´m curious about Asian skin care and have been for a while now. Since I´m still not willing to put anything on my face nor am I advised by my cosmo I can´t try anything out, but I really am curious! I feel like Asian skin care is the best skin care in the world.

 

[European95xx_]

I have always been bothered by my strong pointy jaw. To think I had to wait for the sonopet invention to have my chin shaved to a softer more feminine jaw. Here is a tv series photo of me at age 40 with a droopy nose tip from ageing and a prominent jaw and a photo of me at 50 after rib rhino and jaw shaving with sonopet in the UK. My request of the UK plastic surgeon was for an improved and beautiful side profile. Looking even younger was a bonus!

Amazing results and very natural too!! I think that this procedure can also be done in Korea now. In a clinic called ˝View˝ they use the ultrasonic device if that´s the same thing.
I also dislike my jaw and chin. That´s why I´m considering getting V line done in Korea.

 

[MissOrange]

Today's post is on anti aging on the inside. I have noticed friends my chronological age or younger getting cancer, autoimmune diseases, heart attack so have been looking into Dr Linus Pauling and high dose vitamin C. He is a double Nobel Prize winner and lived to 93! Apparently taking high dose vitamin C and L-lysine supplements help boost collagen to repair damage to skin and blood vessels. I started today on 2000 mg of vitamin C. Tomorrow I add L-lysine. Currently on vitamin D, omega 3 fish oils, vitamin C and tomorrow adding L-lysine. The logic is that most animals make antioxidant vitamin C in the liver from glucose but humans, apes and guinea pigs cannot make vitamin C so need high doses I.e. over 2000 mgs a day. Linus recommended 6000 mg a day which is contrary to the FDA recommended dose of 85 mg for women. A gorilla has to have 10-12,000 mg a day. Dr Linus Pauling reported that high dose vitamin C allegedly may reverse atherosclerosis, cancer, viral illnesses, etc. It means I have to pass the tall hurdles of 60, 70, 80 and 90 and still look 20s-30s!

In the meantime I have been trying a free sample of Clinique facial scrub and intense moisturiser. My skin feels baby soft. I think any scrub and moisturiser would work. Skin needs a moisturiser!

 

[buyit]

amazing results

 

[91hsd]

Hi @MissOrange would u be returning to Korea for further procedures? You look really young, congrats!

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @MissOrange would u be returning to Korea for further procedures? You look really young, congrats!

Hi @91hsd,

I may have to return to Korea next year if the eyelid fat graft disappears as this is the one area that really shows age if it gets hollow. I am 50:50 as to whether to try zygoma reduction. The dissolvable screws advertised by tlps sound very enticing but 2 people I met had zygoma reduction at tlps and one said no difference and went to DA to redo and the other was not happy. At age 60 I will try a smas facelift or maybe sooner if I do try zygoma reduction for my wide face.

 

[MissOrange]

On day 3 of high dose vitamin C powder you mix in water. So far I have noticed an improvement in memory and super acute hearing ability! I would not recommend 5000 mg in one go as this gave me a bad headache and heartburn. I have decided to stick to 1250 mg of vitamin C a day. I was in bed with the bedroom door closed and yet could hear the key in the front door turn at midnight when my daughter came home! My hearing is now incredibly sharp! But that also means it was too noisy in a restaurant I had dinner at as I could hear everything! I told my husband high dose vitamin C has enhanced my brain power! He could not remember a charge on his bank statement and out of the blue, I suggested he had changed money into euros as the charge was an odd amount. And he remembered yes! So now, not only do I look young on the outside but my brain is going back to when I was 20s and had a photographic memory to be able to study hard! It had suffered on statins recently with a cloudy slowed brain with inability to remember the names of medication or do mental arithmetic, and and now I stay clear of statins. I am trying to lower my cholesterol naturally somehow. I have 20 years to figure out how not to get a stroke as everyone on my father's side died of this. The latest revelation is lipoprotein A levels determine your risk of heart disease or strokes! My level is reducing on omega 3 fish oils.

 

[dannythedragon]

Hi @MissOrange
Earlier in this thread you mentioned about teeth. I use
http://www.smilesavershungary.co.uk/
The implant center recently opened a branch in London and doctors and staff fly between London and Budapest. Budapest is where the real deals are to be found and that's where I go. My doctor trained and worked in California and another trained and worked in Manchester. Their clientele seems to be a lot of Brits even expat Brits living in Spain and I met French and Germans as well.
Also you mentioned hair. I am considering prp treatment into the scalp to help with miniaturization. It's still fairly new but there seems to be some promising evidence generally and also from a reliable source. Prp seems to be used in other areas successfully so it makes sense to try it in the scalp. Have a good Sunday.

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @MissOrange
Earlier in this thread you mentioned about teeth. I use
http://www.smilesavershungary.co.uk/
The implant center recently opened a branch in London and doctors and staff fly between London and Budapest. Budapest is where the real deals are to be found and that's where I go. My doctor trained and worked in California and another trained and worked in Manchester. Their clientele seems to be a lot of Brits even expat Brits living in Spain and I met French and Germans as well.
Also you mentioned hair. I am considering prp treatment into the scalp to help with miniaturization. It's still fairly new but there seems to be some promising evidence generally and also from a reliable source. Prp seems to be used in other areas successfully so it makes sense to try it in the scalp. Have a good Sunday.

Wow @dannythedragon their prices are amazing. I chose my London based cosmetic dentist as Cindy Jackson went to him for her veneers. But then I read she now flies to Hungary for procedures. I never explored Hungary. There are ads in the London metro newspaper for Hungary dentistry but I was always scared to try. Good to hear you had a great experience there. Over here it is basically £1000 per tooth veneer! What is the name of your dentists you had? Results are usually dependent on cosmetic dentistry skill so important to know the names of good dentists rather than just the clinic.

Yes hearing more and more about prp to the scalp for hair growth. Would be a lot cheaper than hair transplant!

 

[dannythedragon]

hi @MissOrange
I refuse to be ripped off with prices like that in London.
The name is Implant Center with branches in Budapest and Farringdon and the name of my dentist is Dr Zsuzsanna Juhasz. I just call her Dr Zsusanna. I've seen her in Farringdon for consultation and the work was carried out in Buda.
http://www.smilesavershungary.co.uk...implant-centre-staff/dr-zsuzsanna-juhasz-dds/
I think though all their staff are equally competent and lovely.
They are a high end clinic in Budapest so get well to do Hungarians though their prices make foreigners want to do the journey. You get picked up and dropped back to airport/hotel by their drivers if you choose a hotel from their list. Having someone with your name on a board greeting you at an airport arrival exit that you have never been to before is a nice touch. Just a small thing to consider, due to the recession the far right movement has more support and non whites may encounter a bit of racist chat but I wouldn't let this stop me though but probably with you you'll just get men drooling over you lol. I've used them twice and will go back. Also 6/12 month check I will very likely go to their Farringdon branch. Let me know if you want more details here or privately. What is the name of person who does your Botox and how much because I'm still looking for someone in London?

 

[European95xx_]

Hi @91hsd,

I may have to return to Korea next year if the eyelid fat graft disappears as this is the one area that really shows age if it gets hollow. I am 50:50 as to whether to try zygoma reduction. The dissolvable screws advertised by tlps sound very enticing but 2 people I met had zygoma reduction at tlps and one said no difference and went to DA to redo and the other was not happy. At age 60 I will try a smas facelift or maybe sooner if I do try zygoma reduction for my wide face.

Hey Miss Orange can you tell me if these people got V line surgery along with zygoma reduction or just zygoma reduction alone? Did they ask for more natural results? I´ve heard that DA can make dramatic results if you ask them.