How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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Thanks @Teina. If I lived in Korea, I would definitely go back to black or brunette. However living in the UK makes life difficult with dark hair. With blonde hair, no one speaks slowly to me like I was a foreigner or asks me where I am from and cars let me in when I drive or stop so I can cross the road. With dark hair, I felt invisible and if I said good morning when I entered a shop, I would get silence back! And if I went to pay they would serve the person behind me or ask me to go to another till. The UK is definitely biased against foreigners just like Korea is biased against foreigners. lol. In Korea last month I was told to come back in 2 hours as the keb bank was having a lunch break?! I looked at the korean customers being served and thought there is no closed sign? How can a bank be closed for 2 hours if it is only open from 9-4? So I got mad and said 'Jonan hangug saram iyeyo!' The bank staff then said come this way and I was served immediately!

There is a high price to pay for a year of bleaching, as I have lost 2/3 of the bulk of my hair! I barely have enough hair to put in a ponytail! I am taking daily vitamin D and calcium now to help my hair grow.
I'm sorry to hear about that, yes the UK is strange. If you came to Jamaica you'd be praised:). We love Asians because we think you're beautiful. Have you tried taking collagen for hair growth? The powder form is best, preferably type 1 and 3. But type 1 fish collagen does the magic. You'll see results in 2 months or so. And it's good for skin too as collagen makes up 80% of our skin and we make less after passing the age of 20.
 
@MissOrange

You are not the only Asian who has come to the same conclusions.

In 1978 Rod Stewart released an album called "Blondes have more fun"

The original title was "Asian blondes living in the West have more fun" but Rod The Mod couldn't fit all those words on the album cover lol
So long as you don't bu**er up your hair with all the bleach
 
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Thanks @MissOrange ! Thanks for your reply, I was able to talk to MVP yesterday and they unfotunately said they did not have expertise to help me due to the 'complexity'. They recommended I see an oculoplastic or oculofacial surgeon. Looks like I'll have to find a surgeon in the USA which will be $$$$.
Wow, sorry to hear you have a difficult revision to get fixed. Yes the US is too expensive. Try getting several opinions. Send kakaos with photos to Girin, View, Regen and see what they say. If they all say it is beyond their expertise, then pay for a US or UK oculoplastic specialist surgeon.
 
I'm sorry to hear about that, yes the UK is strange. If you came to Jamaica you'd be praised:smile:. We love Asians because we think you're beautiful. Have you tried taking collagen for hair growth? The powder form is best, preferably type 1 and 3. But type 1 fish collagen does the magic. You'll see results in 2 months or so. And it's good for skin too as collagen makes up 80% of our skin and we make less after passing the age of 20.
Wow thank you @Teina! I shall google type 1 fish collagen now.
 
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I have a tv audition tomorrow. Do I wear sky gray contact lenses or my natural brown eyes? I am bringing a suitcase to do a quick change into a teen k pop outfit for my first day of class after the morning audition!
 

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Oh my goodness , I'm so happy to have stumbled upon your thread, thanks for your detailed information and tips etc.im coming from Canada for a complete over haul on my face and it's daunting and a bit scary trying to find THE right clinic.so far I have my eye on VIP
I thought I would start a new thread as I seem to have hijacked smitten kitten's thread on MVP to share my journey. I summarised my plastic surgery journey on www.drunacoales.blogspot.co.uk. Here is a short summary of my tips.

1. As you age, the nose tip droops. Bear this in mind when you get your primary rhinoplasty as it may not be your last. My tip drooped after 16 years and needed revision. In SK they prefer ultra soft silicone for the nose as it is easier to fit. Take care as some people react to foreign material more than others and you may need to remove or exchange on average every 10 years as with most body artificial implants. Ear or rib cartilage is autologous and less likely to cause a reaction. Get several quotes on kakao from various clinics. One clinic JW may start at 13 million for rib rhino revision but then drops to 11 million if they know you are active on social media but then may drop even further to 8 million after a consultation with the plastic surgeon and may even drop to 7.4 if you look like you are going elsewhere as shared by another KK friend. This is something foreigners are not used to...negotiating. Or clinics like GNG or MVP will start with a fair price like 4.5 million at GNG for rhino or 3 million special at MVP. MVP is noted for trying to give foreigners as close to local prices as they can. There are 2 types of noses...long nose and Barbie nose. Make sure you bring an A4 of a favourite actress or model or use the facetouchup app to see which suits your face. Bear in mind the nose and ears continue to grow with aging!

2. In your 40s, you start to lose fat from your face which then makes your face look bony. The most resistant fat is in your cheeks which then makes your face look unbalanced, ie chipmunk cheeks on a bony skeleton face. The answer is not cheek liposuction or buccal fat removal but full face fat graft to rejuvenate and replace all the facial fat lost with ageing. Be patient as fat grafting may need 3 attempts to stay and be prepared to gain a few lbs to help the fat graft thrive.

3. Eyelid sulcus hollows with ageing. Again fat grafting to the lids rejuvenates. You can combine this with an incision des or blepharoplasty. Again bear in mind that skin sags so actually a bigger crease buys you more time before it sags. Your first des is never your last when battling gravity.

4. Philtrum sags with ageing. You may have seen smiles with no upper teeth show. This is because the philtrum has sagged from 11 mms to 20 mms and basically covers your upper teeth show even at rest. Try a bullhorn lip lift and do not ask the plastic surgeon to cut into the nasal sill or it may distort the nostrils. The only downside is a scar but if you wear makeup, you can hide as it takes a year for the scar to be invisible.

5. SMAS facelift. I have seen this in girls as young as 30. As it is costly and with ageing all skin sags, I would suggest trying to put this off as long as possible by using other anti ageing procedures. Bear in mind any bone surgery may accelerate skin sagging and you may end up requiring an earlier SMAS facelift.

Hope this helps ladies especially from 40+. I turn 51 shortly and my next milestone hurdle will be conquering ageing at 60!
 
so happy I did more internet digging and found you and post pines surgery a year ago but I'm not getting any younger , so helpful thanks again !
@astrid07 this is a commonly asked question. The first thing is to know what the market rate is. When friends share the prices they paid you can work out if they actually paid too much or got a fantastic bargain.

For des and ptosis correction, I would say 2 million is a fantastic bargain and then work your way up as to what you would be willing to pay if you went to a more expensive clinic. Clearly if they want 4-5 million won then the clinic is overcharging and you had better negotiate hard or pick somewhere else. Be prepared to walk away from a clinic that is charging double.

For primary rhino, 3 million is a great price for primary and 4.5-5 million for revision rhino is fair but 7-11 million for revision silicone rhino and 11-13 million for rib revision rhino may well be overcharging foreigners. Some have paid 11 million for revision rhino! Wow! Don't expect that by paying 13 million you will get a fantastic nose. Price does not necessarily equate to quality.

And for fat grafting a fair price is 1.5-2 million including one free top up. Locals pay 600-1.2 million.

Now that you know what you should be paying you contact the clinic by kakao with photos. Let them suggest a price first. If it is a ridiculously high price, there is no point in negotiating as clearly they are overcharging foreigners. The most expensive clinics are JW, Cinderella, Banobagi, Regen and April31. Some gals have their parents pay so don't bother to negotiate and are happy for their parents to pay high prices. As a parent I am not happy to overpay! Lol. If it is high but you can afford if they reduce by 30% suggest things like you can write a review on Tpf, you have an Instagram following, you are okay with your image being used on their website or Instagram, etc. This should get you a 20-30% discount. Multiple procedures should also get you a discount without the use of your image. Also suggest you can pay with cash won. Quotes in won are cheaper than USD quotes so ask for prices in won. Be prepared to wait and not reply right away. Don't sound too desperate for surgery. Do declare your budget if you really like the clinic but need them to match your budget and let them know. Do not be enticed into more procedures than you need. Hope this helps and screenshot any agreed price you make with the clinic in case they try to renege on the price agreement when you are fasted, changed and waiting for your surgery like what happened to me at DA clinic. Astonishingly awful experience!
 
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Fortunecat - did they say/did you ask why they wouldn't do it for your arms?? I was thinking of going there for arm lipo too. Thanks.

@Ingrid_sk Dr Jeon (Evita Clinic) said my arms were ok last year. The nurse clinician at 365mc (2018) said only 1 syringe (50cc) per arm was needed for LAMS. The doctor at Renewme clinic told me its not necessary (2018). So, I guess my arms is still within the normal standards and not sagging too much? But then, I guess we are our own worst critics. I still find them huge though. Hmm...
 
@Ingrid_sk Dr Jeon (Evita Clinic) said my arms were ok last year. The nurse clinician at 365mc (2018) said only 1 syringe (50cc) per arm was needed for LAMS. The doctor at Renewme clinic told me its not necessary (2018). So, I guess my arms is still within the normal standards and not sagging too much? But then, I guess we are our own worst critics. I still find them huge though. Hmm...
What is your arm circumference in inches?
 
@MissOrange My arm circumference is 10.5 inches. However, I do use dumbbells and there is bicep buldging when I flex my arm. I guess that's why the doctors feel that its not necessary? I have been training on my triceps as well to prevent batwings.
Can you pinch an inch of loose skin under your arms without flexing it @Fortunecat? It is good you have been doing weights. My right arm was 11 inches and flabby pre-op. I think the ideal is 10 inches or less. My right arm is 10 inches today 6 months post lipo and 9.5 inches on the left. Maybe if it gets to 11 inches, they will agree? You could stop doing weights and let your arms go fat and flabby, then they will agree? ;-)
 
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