How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[MissOrange]

It has been 3.5 months post en bloc explant of my textured silicone allergan/mcghan breast implants and the breast implant illness symptoms of EOE oesophagitis, ulcer, dry painful burning eyes, alcohol intolerance with rectal bleeding, sustained tachycardia are all gone for good. My path report showed extensive histiocytic reaction to silicone and leakage/rupture of the right implant. Thank goodness I got them out in just under 7 years of having them, before I got permanent bii symptoms, spread of silicone throughout my lymphatics,
or even worse t cell mutation into lymphoma cancer! If you insist on getting implants, pay by credit card so you can claim a section 75 if they rupture or get banned and sadly US FDA approval does not guarantee they are safe. I made both these mistakes when I got my 4th set which is now my last.

It is a major psychological stressor to go from big chested to teen size but putting one's health first is a must. I have been debating whether to try breast fat transfer but costs range from $9k Dr Burns in Texas to $11k Dr Bednar and 4-5 million won or $4.5k at Fresh clinic in Korea. My fears are that the fat won't last, the fat will cause breast drooping from the weight, the skin will sag more if the fat reabsorbs as more skin will have been stretched to inject larger amounts of fat, ie 150-200 ccs per side etc. Then I read how if your cup size is a d you do not need fat transfer. So like me debating zygoma reduction, I am also shelving breast FT for now.

Here is my first bikini selfie taken yesterday 3.5 months post explant. Another lesson is to buy a more structured padded bikini top. This one seems to emphasize a small chest!

 

[MissOrange]

It's almost May and my 3 year anniversary since I got rid of my aging hollow triple crease eyelids in 2016 at age 50. I am really pleased that my eyelids still look young in 2019 at almost 53. I would rank getting des, ptosis and eyelid fat graft all together in one op as the best antiaging value for money operation and if you can only afford one surgery, this is it. I paid 3 million won in low season 2016 and the exchange rate was very favourable back then ie £1600. I bought the cheapest economy fare for £460 and stayed in £60/night 3 star accommodations for a week.

Then save for full face fat graft or just gain weight and know you need to drink 2 litres of water a day! 20% is in your food so you may subtract 400 mls.

I am still shocked that facelifts cost up to $13k in korea. Haven't had that yet but budgeting for when I am 60.

 

[MissOrange]

Here are some home cam stills of me over Easter lunch. I am stuck as I can't find anything to fix at the moment so have no excuse to fly to Korea this year. My Korean has improved immensely after 1.5 years of weekly korean classes but I have no chance to use them in korea! .

I now have to live life as a young girl as no one treats me like a 50+ year old adjumma which means I get no respect as an elderly lady. lol.

 

[cythr]

@cythr By comparing his before and after I would also add he had jawbone reduction. His chin is a lot shorter and flatter which gives a more Japanese anime look vs his before chin was more prominent. His eyes are now bigger and more open which suggests some form of des, incision or non incisional, in my opinion.

See how a full fringe along with a shorter chin creates a smaller face. Fascinating how he has created a perfect face and been named Korea's GQ man of the year. He is the real gangnam beauty.

I see what you mean but Obviously in the photos you showed he had alot more fat in his face than he does now and also he has always had quite a high double eyelid. You can see in the photo below that in middle school the stronger shape of his jaw had started to show due to loss of baby fat and obviously as a middle schooler you cant be getting full reconstructive jaw surgery and fat removal. I think he is just one of the very few people in the world blessed with a near perfect face.

 

[PoppyPot]

It's almost May and my 3 year anniversary since I got rid of my aging hollow triple crease eyelids in 2016 at age 50. I am really pleased that my eyelids still look young in 2019 at almost 53. I would rank getting des, ptosis and eyelid fat graft all together in one op as the best antiaging value for money operation and if you can only afford one surgery, this is it. I paid 3 million won in low season 2016 and the exchange rate was very favourable back then ie £1600. I bought the cheapest economy fare for £460 and stayed in £60/night 3 star accommodations for a week.

Then save for full face fat graft or just gain weight and know you need to drink 2 litres of water a day! 20% is in your food so you may subtract 400 mls.

I am still shocked that facelifts cost up to $13k in korea. Haven't had that yet but budgeting for when I am 60.

Hi,
What is DES?
WHere did you do your eyes?
Could anyone Suggest which Clinic to choose from in Korea, VIEW or JK clinic ?
Im intending to do a revision for Double eyelid with Ptosis correction end May, but I keep seeing mixed reviews.

 

[MissOrange]

Hi,
What is DES?
WHere did you do your eyes?
Could anyone Suggest which Clinic to choose from in Korea, VIEW or JK clinic ?
Im intending to do a revision for Double eyelid with Ptosis correction end May, but I keep seeing mixed reviews.

Hi @PoppyPot, des is double eyelid surgery or upper blepharoplasty. I had my eyes done by Dr Seo at Most Valuable Plastic surgery clinic in Apgujeong, Seoul for 3 million won 3 years ago.

View and JK are big hospitals and can be expensive so I chose mvp as they were the most reasonably priced for a board certified plastic surgeon and I liked his results on a lady from Australia. I spent months chatting with her to be sure he was the one for me.

View surgeons were in the Let me in makeover series. For bone contouring it looks like View does a great job (read krisven's review thread with photos).

I am trying to work out if I need zygoma reduction or full bone contouring as my face is still wide and it would be between Regen and View.

 

[angelface88]

Yesterday I took a selfie aged 52 to compare with what I looked like 19 months ago at age 50. Huge difference. The before was taken in October 2016 after 2 full face regular fat transfers with DAPRS. As you can see I was so upset it did not last and had endured weeks of monster DAPRS face only to look old again a month post the second fat transfer at DAPRS and 2 long flights to Korea in July and September 2016. The vermillion lip lift by Dr Choi at MVP had not lasted either as the photo is also 4 months post this. The after photo shows bullhorn lip lift after 16 months. Now that I have had a total of 5 fat transfers to my upper lids (last one was prp fat graft with Dr Seo at MVP) and 4 fat transfers to my full face (last one finally prp fat transfer), it seems to be holding now at 3 months post prp. Looks like for me I need 5 fat transfers for permanency. I may consider a 5th fat transfer to my lower face next year but for now I am happy. I showed Dr Seo at MVP a photo of the famous Korean actress/model Han Ye Seul and said make me look like her. Aside from needing a longer nose and platinum hair dye, he did a pretty good job on an ajumma! So much better than DAPRS clinic. I just need to stop applying Western makeup and try the Korean style. I may try professional hair dyeing at a hair training academy in London.

Hi @MissOrange, so this result to full face was as a result of Dr Seo fat graft? Still trying to decide whether to see him or Dr. Oh, and whether or not to do the whole FG thing at all (or stick with annoying fillers ) :/

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @MissOrange, so this result to full face was as a result of Dr Seo fat graft? Still trying to decide whether to see him or Dr. Oh, and whether or not to do the whole FG thing at all (or stick with annoying fillers ) :/

Hi @angelface88,

Firstly, the face loses fat with weight loss so rule this out by checking your bmi. Knowing this I still do not want to weigh over 100 lbs and am back down to 97 lbs as I want to get rid of my cheek fat. I think pinching an inch of cheek fat means my face may be looking wide due to this extra fat. But if I lose more weight, my face may end up looking bony so I will try to combat this by drinking +++ water. I think the s9 camera is making my face narrower than it truly is which is making it difficult to decide on zygoma reduction or not.

Secondly dehydration causes facial deflation so drink 1.5- 2 litres in a day and see if your face improves. I can barely manage to drink 660 mls a day so need to be consciously aware that I need to drink more as the lower face fat graft reacts poorly to dehydration by shrinking, deflating and sagging. If you are happy to take this risk of fat graft causing lower face sagging from skin stretching, then try fat graft. In other words only try fat graft if your face is really bad.

Thirdly, there is a commitment needed to fly back to korea for top ups as each time at least 50% of the fat reabsorbs between 3 weeks to 3 months. The key phrase is at least 50%. Sometimes it may be 90% reabsorption etc. Picking the most experienced surgeon at fat transfer is vital.

This means use dermal fillers for temples and nasolabial folds until your face looks old and super deflated from fat loss before embarking on a long journey to fat graft rejuvenation.

I always say that with every plastic surgery procedure there may be a downside side effect to deal with so you must truly look bad before you take that risk.

 

[MissOrange]

After pinching an inch of fat in each cheek, I decided to try an experiment. Instead of focus on zygoma reduction, focus on reducing the fat in my cheeks! This meant reducing my weight to 96.8 lbs (bmi 18.3) and drink copious amounts of water and daily cups of green or jasmine tea. I have noticed I now cannot pull out an inch of skin or fat in my cheeks! In fact it seems to have tightened my skin!

For postmenopausal brittle over bleached hair, I highly recommend the Aria infrared hair straightener. Easy to use at home and now I don’t bother with salon blowdries. I have been using the aria this year and cannot live without it. My hair looks so frizzy pre aria, like the girl in the k drama ‘She was pretty’. It just takes 10 minutes in the morning and lasts for 2 days. I also apply heat protector spray and finish styling my hair with argan oil. I also use l’oreal coconut oil hair masque after conditioner to keep my hair moist. Anyone dyeing their hair from black to brown to blonde to dark brown to light brown in less than a year, definitely needs hair treatment! I am now ready to embrace being 53 years young! I now have 7 years to work out how to survive turning 60!!!!

 

[MOTTY26]

I see what you mean but Obviously in the photos you showed he had alot more fat in his face than he does now and also he has always had quite a high double eyelid. You can see in the photo below that in middle school the stronger shape of his jaw had started to show due to loss of baby fat and obviously as a middle schooler you cant be getting full reconstructive jaw surgery and fat removal. I think he is just one of the very few people in the world blessed with a near perfect face.
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wow beauty is indeed really subjective.
no offense, but i dont find him hot at all... nor he got a perfect face. LOL
a cutie, maybe.

 

[MissOrange]

Today's post is on the lure of instagram transformations. I wonder who is the surgeon at Grand who did this amazing facelift? But my fear would be the unexplained patient death there. Did the patient have a pre-existing heart condition?

The breast fat transfer at Fresh looks amazing too and it looks like fat was taken from the upper arms even.

And the Regen cheek reduction photo almost had me buy a plane ticket until I tried my cheek fat reduction experiment. Thank goodness the fat still remained in my upper lids.

I am awaiting my Birmingham surgeon to come back to me with a date for areola reop to symmetrise before I can even consider breast FT.

 

[Sara88]

Hi Miss Orange, can you tell me what Regen did with cheek reduction? Was it bone shaving or Acculift/Lipo? Thanks.

Today's post is on the lure of instagram transformations. I wonder who is the surgeon at Grand who did this amazing facelift? But my fear would be the unexplained patient death there. Did the patient have a pre-existing heart condition?

The breast fat transfer at Fresh looks amazing too and it looks like fat was taken from the upper arms even.

And the Regen cheek reduction photo almost had me buy a plane ticket until I tried my cheek fat reduction experiment. Thank goodness the fat still remained in my upper lids.

I am awaiting my Birmingham surgeon to come back to me with a date for areola reop to symmetrise before I can even consider breast FT.

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @MissOrange, so this result to full face was as a result of Dr Seo fat graft? Still trying to decide whether to see him or Dr. Oh, and whether or not to do the whole FG thing at all (or stick with annoying fillers ) :/

Hi @angelface88 yes I have not had any more fat graft since Dr Seo did a full face fat graft Feb 2018 and I have been drinking plenty of water to prevent a sunken look from dehydration. I really like how my upper lids are still full and young. I now weigh what I weighed when I flew to Korea Feb of last year, ie 96.8 lbs and my face looks better than it did pre his full face fat graft so the new placement of the fat is still working! I think by comparing my photos with Dr Oh’s fat graft patients on the RealSelf site you can see which you prefer. I like how Dr Seo makes me even more beautiful so it is not just rejuvenation but beautification too!

 

[MissOrange]

Hi Miss Orange, can you tell me what Regen did with cheek reduction? Was it bone shaving or Acculift/Lipo? Thanks.

Hi @Sara88 I haven’t had cheek reduction at Regen. I have just been losing weight and balancing the weight loss with increasing my fluid intake. Regen offers cheek reduction by bone surgery, ie cutting the maxilla through the mouth, rotating the zygoma, then fixing with plate and screws I believe. I only had one consult with Dr Oh and he said it was a one hour procedure with one week recovery. If I had to choose someone to do zygoma reduction on me, it would only be Dr Oh at Regen as in my 3/4 view my cheekbones protrude. Can’t see them in my side profile. I may still end up getting it done but am trying to find conservative ways to achieve a small narrow face for now.

 

[Sara88]

Thanks for your reply. From what I’ve seen of your pictures, you have a narrow, small and beautiful face.

Hi @Sara88 I haven’t had cheek reduction at Regen. I have just been losing weight and balancing the weight loss with increasing my fluid intake. Regen offers cheek reduction by bone surgery, ie cutting the maxilla through the mouth, rotating the zygoma, then fixing with plate and screws I believe. I only had one consult with Dr Oh and he said it was a one hour procedure with one week recovery. If I had to choose someone to do zygoma reduction on me, it would only be Dr Oh at Regen as in my 3/4 view my cheekbones protrude. Can’t see them in my side profile. I may still end up getting it done but am trying to find conservative ways to achieve a small narrow face for now.