How can i convince a friend that fake is NOT OK!!

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#16
i saw a girl carrying a fake Balenciaga yesterday, at of all places, our local garden centre !! personally, i absolutely loathe them, but it's really none of my business who buys what ~ just as it isn't any of their's when i choose to spend $$$ on designer brands :p
 
#17
This is always a sensitive subject. Personally, I have never purchased a fake anything as I can't see the point of having something if you can't have the real thing. I simply started with what I could afford and less of it: Stone Mountain, etc.; graduated to Coach, etc.; and now I can purchase Chanel. It is also a matter of integrity and morals for me since the manufacture, sale and purchase of fake luxury goods is illegal and typically sucks about $300 billion from the US economy every year. I don't even want to think about where the money goes or where the goods come from.

It is a personal decision whether or not to purchase fake goods, it is a personal decision whether or not to steal. Many people make the wrong decision to purchase fake goods and right decision not to steal. I don't see the difference.
 
#21
tell her to do some experiment... see which one lasts longer and better quality??
I did that with my x and we found out real one is so much better quality than fake ones...

Plus fake ones always come with weird patterns
 
#22
Why not just leave her be, and let her learn the hard way, if/when people give her funny stares, or people who aren't her friends make pointed remarks? There's no point in being the person to upset your friend and sacrifice your friendship, when someone else might do the trick. And if that never happens, then maybe the people she sees don't really care whether her bag is fake or not. Then, it probably isn't acceptable morally, but 1) it might not matter to her in terms of embarassment etc 2) either she might somehow start liking authentic items, OR 3) there's no one else to tell her except for you - and given that she might get upset, you're the one to judge whether or not you want to get involved. All I'm saying is wait a while - time will do the trick.
 
#23
[FONT=&quot]Fakes are not[/FONT][FONT=&quot] harmless and impact the world on many levels. The followings is an excerpt of an article by Dana Thomas author of the book "Deluxe - How Luxury Lost its Luster":[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
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[FONT=&quot]The Fight Against Fakes[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Child labor, terrorism, human trafficking: Buying counterfeit designer goods is hardly harmless, Dana Thomas reports[/FONT]
 [FONT=&quot]By Dana Thomas [/FONT]
 [FONT=&quot]Every time I give a talk on the luxury business today and I get to the subject of counterfeiting, the same thing happens. The room grows absolutely silent as I put forth the facts: It is estimated that up to 7 percent of our annual world trade — $600 billion worth — is counterfeit or pirated; that fakes are believed to be directly responsible for the loss of more than 750,000 American jobs; that everything from baby formula to medicine is counterfeited, with tragic results; that counterfeiters and the crime syndicates they work with deal in human trafficking, child labor, and gang warfare; and that counterfeiting is used to launder money, and the money has been linked to truly sinister deeds such as terrorism.[/FONT]
 [FONT=&quot]No one utters a word, not a sound, as I recall the raid I went on with Chinese police in a tenement in Guangzhou and what we discovered when we walked in: two dozen sad, tired, dirty children, ages 8 to 14, making fake Dunhill, Versace, and Hugo Boss handbags on old, rusty sewing machines. It was like something out of Dickens, Oliver Twist in the 21st century. [/FONT]
 [FONT=&quot]Then I read the following passage from my book, Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster. "'I remember walking into an assembly plant in Thailand a couple of years ago and seeing six or seven little children, all under 10 years old, sitting on the floor assembling counterfeit leather handbags,' an investigator told me... 'The owners had broken the children's legs and tied the lower leg to the thigh so the bones wouldn't mend. [They] did it because the children said they wanted to go outside and play.'"[/FONT]
 [FONT=&quot]The audience gasps. From time to time, I see tears too. And afterward, I always hear the same response: "I had no idea." Always. Most consumers believe that buying fake goods is harmless, that it's a victimless crime. But it's not. It's not at all. [/FONT]
 [FONT=&quot]In the five years that I have been writing about this issue, I have seen two things happen: The illegal enterprise is getting stronger and more professional, and the consumer is slowly but surely becoming more aware. . . .[/FONT]
 
#24
This is one of those things where you need to just agree to disagree if you want to stay friends. If you don't and instead continue to argue, one of you will end up saying something that hits a nerve, someone's feelings are going to end up hurt, and things will probably never be the same.

For all those trying to argue the "moral issue" of fakes, what, are you going to judge EVERY decision your friends make that you don't agree with? I'm sure we are all perfect in EVERY aspect of our lives, too. It just seems hypocritical to me to get so hyped up about this issue only and think it's okay to call friends out on when you probably wouldn't call them out on the many other things they do that you don't like. Would you really want someone judging you like this?
 
#25
Well, this is an interesting situation. Personally, if a good friend of mine carried a fake bag, it would bother me because I would never carry one, but not to the point where I'd ever make a big deal out of it because SHE is carrying it. Why... well, because her circumstances may be different (ie the price limit she has for bags may be, I don't know, $500 or less), she may choose to spend her money on other big ticket items (and luxury bags don't enter into the equation), etc. etc. Is that the case with your friend?

If an acquaintance or "friend" of mine said something like "Expensive bags are so worthless and the people who buy them are idiots", well, sour grapes is what comes to mind and I'd be more concerned by my supposed "friend's" lack of respect for me than anything else. I may not like something my friend has, carries, or uses, but I would never be rude or judgmental about it. Sometimes people make comments designed to cover up insecurities and pretend they really don't care when they obviously do. Maybe that's the case... maybe it isn't. I think the bigger question is does your friend respect you and treat you the way a friend should? If so, well, I'd forget about it. There are so many things people disagree on, and this may be 1 of 29382938 things you and your friend disagree on. No big deal, unless there is more to the story. JMHO. :flowers:
 
#26
Thanks all for your views and advices!! You all are right. I guess i can never change her opinions unless she has been exposed to her first authentic luxury bags ya?

Fieryfashionist, you're right. She would rather spend money on big ticket items and bags doesn't come into her equation. Probably that was why she made the comment that it's silly to get authentic bags if the fake has as good quality as the real deal.

I guess i shall stop arguing on this topic with her. Hoping some day she would come to realise that herself :p
 
#27
DreamingBeauty said:
This is one of those things where you need to just agree to disagree if you want to stay friends. If you don't and instead continue to argue, one of you will end up saying something that hits a nerve, someone's feelings are going to end up hurt, and things will probably never be the same.

For all those trying to argue the "moral issue" of fakes, what, are you going to judge EVERY decision your friends make that you don't agree with? I'm sure we are all perfect in EVERY aspect of our lives, too. It just seems hypocritical to me to get so hyped up about this issue only and think it's okay to call friends out on when you probably wouldn't call them out on the many other things they do that you don't like. Would you really want someone judging you like this?
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dreamingbeauty: No, I don't judge anyone by the life they lead or the choices they make even if I don't agree, however, they are typically not involved in illegal activities. If they were, I would have a major problem with it, would not hesitiate to call them on it and they would no longer be my friend. If I saw my friend stealing or found out my friend was stealing I would say something and that person would no longer be my friend.

Purchasing fake goods, no matter what the item is, is illegal. It is the same as stealing no matter what, not to mention all the other ramifications. There is no gray area.
 
#28
babina said:
dreamingbeauty: No, I don't judge anyone by the life they lead or the choices they make even if I don't agree, however, they are typically not involved in illegal activities. If they were, I would have a major problem with it, would not hesitiate to call them on it and they would no longer be my friend. If I saw my friend stealing or found out my friend was stealing I would say something and that person would no longer be my friend.

Purchasing fake goods, no matter what the item is, is illegal. It is the same as stealing no matter what, not to mention all the other ramifications. There is no gray area.
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^I agree. And I don't care if I sound shallow, but I would be embarassed to be out with a friend who has a fake bag. I have friends who carry fakes, and I do usually say something about it. They're still my friends and I love them for who they are. It's just that I'm not going to sit back passively and not speak up for what's right.
 
#30
fieryfashionist said:
Well, this is an interesting situation. Personally, if a good friend of mine carried a fake bag, it would bother me because I would never carry one, but not to the point where I'd ever make a big deal out of it because SHE is carrying it. Why... well, because her circumstances may be different (ie the price limit she has for bags may be, I don't know, $500 or less), she may choose to spend her money on other big ticket items (and luxury bags don't enter into the equation), etc. etc. Is that the case with your friend?

If an acquaintance or "friend" of mine said something like "Expensive bags are so worthless and the people who buy them are idiots", well, sour grapes is what comes to mind and I'd be more concerned by my supposed "friend's" lack of respect for me than anything else. I may not like something my friend has, carries, or uses, but I would never be rude or judgmental about it. Sometimes people make comments designed to cover up insecurities and pretend they really don't care when they obviously do. Maybe that's the case... maybe it isn't. I think the bigger question is does your friend respect you and treat you the way a friend should? If so, well, I'd forget about it. There are so many things people disagree on, and this may be 1 of 29382938 things you and your friend disagree on. No big deal, unless there is more to the story. JMHO. :flowers:
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well said! i couldn't agree more!
 
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