Hermes Skincare & Makeup
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Hope you are right. Apparently they test the perfumes on animals (if you can trust the Internet) which was quite dismaying to me, to be honest. I've never bought an H perfume so I had never checked these practices prior to this makeup announcement.
I tell you, there is no way a company can manufacture and market cosmetics tested on animals in the European Union, let alone such a well known company as Hermes... They are also banned from using any ingredient that has been tested in animals by a different manufacturer.
The definition of cosmetics under European Union law includes perfumes:
¨any substance or preparation intended to be placed in contact with the various external parts of the human body (epidermis, hair system, nails, lips and external genital organs) or with the teeth and the mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or mainly to cleaning them, perfuming them, changing their appearance and/or correcting body odours and/or protecting them or keeping them in good condition."
If interested, you can find plenty of info on how the legislation works in the pages of the European Commission:
https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/cosmetics_en
Well, we have some people saying they cannot sell in China without animal testing, and some saying they cannot sell in the EU with animal testing (and I have a home in Europe, I am quite familiar with those laws). I would love to know the actual practice and have yet to see any documentation from the brand itself.
The European Union cannot forbid brands from selling elsewhere and has no jurisdiction on other regions. I believe the laws requiring animal testing in China are now gone? but before, the situation was this. If a European company was to sell their products in China (the same that they were marketing in Europe), they would develop them without animal testing and market in Europe without animal testing (or animal tested ingredients). Then, prior to export to China, the completed product (developed, manufactured, sold etc without animal testing) would be tested on animals for the purposes of complying with Chinese legislation and marketing in China. There was not much the European Union could do about this, although there has been concern on this topic and it has been raised by the European Parliament which has also adopted a resolution to commit the European Union to fight for a global ban on animal testing at relevant international fora (such as the WTO).
If anyone has any evidence that a company like Hermes testes its products for sale in Europe on animals I would encourage to denounce them to the relevant bodies, I know officials at the Commission’s DG Internal Market who would like nothing better than the chance for exemplary punishment of any infringement. Perhaps new companies struggling for a dollar would risk this and buy an ingredient from some dodgy source. But Hermes? Not in a million years in my view...
From the last Hermès annual report: "Hermès does not perform animal testing for its products."
So the question is, are they third-party testing the perfumes for the Chinese market (which is what most companies do, and to me that's still animal testing) and was this also done for the new makeup and skin care, which would have gone through testing quite a while ago to receive approvals for sale?
So the question is, are they third-party testing the perfumes for the Chinese market (which is what most companies do, and to me that's still animal testing) and was this also done for the new makeup and skin care, which would have gone through testing quite a while ago to receive approvals for sale?
Seems like you could find one if you are lucky
https://luxurylaunches.com/fashion/hermes_leather_lipstick_or_gum_case.php
You can read about China's animal testing laws for ingredients and commercial imported cosmetic products here:
https://ethicalelephant.com/did-china-end-animal-testing-2019/
There's also many other sites that go though the intricacies.
It is an interesting issue and it will affect H makeup but let's get back to discussing the actual makeup before this thread becomes fixated on the more general issues only.
https://ethicalelephant.com/did-china-end-animal-testing-2019/
There's also many other sites that go though the intricacies.
It is an interesting issue and it will affect H makeup but let's get back to discussing the actual makeup before this thread becomes fixated on the more general issues only.
Thank you for the link, papertiger.
I think this is very relevant to the subject of this thread, since so many of us are animal lovers. But I understand your point.
Back to topic.
More info about the product launch here:
https://cpp-luxury.com/hermes-to-launch-its-own-beauty-and-skincare-line-in-2020/
“The new Hermès beauty collection will be manufactured in France and Italy and will use plastic-free packaging.”
(papertiger, please delete if this post doesn’t relate to the actual makeup details.)
https://cpp-luxury.com/hermes-to-launch-its-own-beauty-and-skincare-line-in-2020/
“The new Hermès beauty collection will be manufactured in France and Italy and will use plastic-free packaging.”
(papertiger, please delete if this post doesn’t relate to the actual makeup details.)
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papertiger, please forgive me for posting one more time about animal testing. This should put the discussion of this issue to bed.
I contacted Hermes and this is their response:
“Thank you for visiting Hermes.com.
Animal testing is not allowed within the European Union. As we feel concerned by this regulation, Hermès does not proceed to any tests on animals for finished products or for the ingredients which compose them either.
We hope that our answer will relieve your concerns. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact an internet specialist at 1 800 441 4488 Option 1.”
I contacted Hermes and this is their response:
“Thank you for visiting Hermes.com.
Animal testing is not allowed within the European Union. As we feel concerned by this regulation, Hermès does not proceed to any tests on animals for finished products or for the ingredients which compose them either.
We hope that our answer will relieve your concerns. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact an internet specialist at 1 800 441 4488 Option 1.”
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Yes, this was mentioned in the article posted on the initial post of this thread.
Thank you for putting the discussion on animal testing to bed.
I am dying to see colour swatches.
The rose colour an earlier article was describing sounds right up my alley... can’t wait to see it!
The rose colour an earlier article was describing sounds right up my alley... can’t wait to see it!
Found some H lippies in action!! Seriously, I CAN’T WAITTTTTTT!!!! 
That REDDDD is just stunning! The orange might be the Orange Boite?
That REDDDD is just stunning! The orange might be the Orange Boite?