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#16
These are exactly my thoughts.

I’m definitely not wishing for a recession, but as it seems imminent, I assume these resellers will have to stop/pause.
I would be really happy if H corporate decides to crack down on the resell market one day.




Pivoine66 said:
Do we know if such sellers are not often also those who "trick" the most desirable bags in this way as supposedly appreciative loyal customers and then sell the bags for prices like 3 to now sometimes 5 times the retail price? This is an easy way to make up for the smaller losses on shoes and scarves ... and still make immense profits?

It also creates a scarcity of supply for real interested customers.
In the luxury segment, you can't increase production at will. That would be a contradiction in terms.

So personally I will never support them and prefer to pay the full prize to Hermès.

Personally, this is slowly spoiling my enjoyment of Hermès.
To me, it looks like flogging beautiful products. It cheapens the brand.
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I’m definitely not wishing for a recession, but as it seems imminent it’s safe to aaaume that these sales hoping that with a recession
 
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@showgratitude @Mrs.Z I’m not talking about authenticity here, and I know there’s a lot of scams out there: like paying and never getting the items even if the pictures look real.
I’ve put an ISO for a swimsuit and one girl dm me saying that she had one. She wanted me to send her the money without showing any pictures and to her allegedly sister’s bank account. I blocked her!

This thread was mostly to understand why a lot of people are buying and selling BNIB bellow retail. But purchase history do make sens
 
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Mrs.Z said:
One person bought similar shoes in four different sizes? After a two minute investigation my verdict is FAKE!
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I guess these people buy lots of shoes, RTW, even blankets hoping to speed up quite bag offers. I’m sure their SAs are aware of them selling but couldn’t care less. At the end of the day they only care for their commission. They’re in sales after all.
On another topic, LV x Nike collab shoes were meant only for VVIP, but guess what? These VVIP have been selling these at $15k (now that’s greedy!) retail is approx $3k.
 
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kittynui said:
@showgratitude @Mrs.Z I’m not talking about authenticity here, and I know there’s a lot of scams out there: like paying and never getting the items even if the pictures look real.
I’ve put an ISO for a swimsuit and one girl dm me saying that she had one. She wanted me to send her the money without showing any pictures and to her allegedly sister’s bank account. I blocked her!

This thread was mostly to understand why a lot of people are buying and selling BNIB bellow retail. But purchase history do make sens
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Oh yeah? This was your original post-

"Do you think people buy items in store to create a purchase history in order to have quota bags more quickly?

I mean selling thing for +/- less than retail and then being offered a quota bag at the boutique is still better than buying a quota bag at premium.

what do you think?"

Obviously some people said/implied that some may sell for cheap because they are not authentic...you asked what they think...and so they replied with their opinions. It may be true..it may be not...you may like some replies...you may not like some too...but they answered the question you asked. Hence, people brought up "authenticity" issues in relation to/connected directly to your question.
 
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kittynui said:
Of course there’s no guarantee, but I’m not sure you’ll see tons of fakes shoes/twilly/and jewelry.
Some members seems to be « reputable » sellers and of course scams do exist. I have purchased a swimsuit with one member because it was sold out in both my French and Hawaii store. The item was delivered to me in person by the seller.
There’s no purchase protection as most sellers prefer zelle or PayPal FF or wire transfer. Just have to do your research.

I’m prefer to buy things with my SAs and am in the group because I like to see reference pictures of the current available bags and other hot things + was happy to put and ISO for my swimsuit.

also I‘m wondering if I should really pay full price for a watch or jewelry just to add up in my purchase history when you can have them for way less than retail.

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There are at least six of these necklaces (various metals) at Fashionphile alone right now for roughly the same price or less. You'd have purchase protection and ability to return. Doesn't make sense to me.

But to answer the first post q, yes, apparently lots of people buy and resell fine jewelry and shoes, etc., to "get a quota bag" (what a terrible term). I suppose it depends on the math and your particular store. I was once told straight-up at the Bellagio store that if I bought a bracelet I was eyeing, I would be shown/offered what was in the back room.

I would never buy from a stranger with Zelle or wire transfer, but YMMV.
 
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Yes - I have firsthand knowledge that people absolutely purchase random tidbits from the store to then resell in order to be offered a prized quota bag. I don't know if it's worth it. The math somewhat adds up.
Using easy numbers:
Well-known that the spend ratio for B25 is 3:1.
Birkin 25 price = 10k
You need to purchase 30k of merchandise to be offered a Birkin 25.

Let's say you purchase the following:
20k necklace -> you sold at 12k. 8k loss
5k bracelet -> you sold at 3k. 2k loss
2k blanket -> you sold at 1k. 1k loss
3k homeware -> you sold at 2k. 1k loss

Effectively, you spent 12k instead of 30k.
Then you finally are offered your B25 (10K)
Total net = 12k+10k = 22k

This is reasonable, and equivalent to the price of a B25 in the resell market. Along with building a relationship with SA, guaranteeing authenticity, and having the full in store experience.
Only thing is - it's not guaranteed you will in fact get your dream B25, and in what timeframe - not to mention the stress of selling and dealing with buyers.

***This is NOT worth it for resellers, because you can't mark the b25 much above 22k and expect it to sell.
 
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This definitely is the explanation behind such the saturation of the same fine jewelry on the secondary market. But, I still do not think it is logical. I highly doubt anyone buys a 10k+ msrp jewelry piece on Facebook. Rather, looking at the inventory on Fashionphile, one would turn towards professional resellers that take commission. I have sold quite a bit of fine jewelry to Fashionphile and am lucky if I get offered even close to 50%. Recently, a necklace I sold to them was closer to 25%. Now, in my experience, I do sell items I have worn so they are not like these « giftable » items still with stickers.

Additionally, I am sure SAs and stores have picked up on this form of buying and reselling. As much as it might benefit sales goals and commissions, I think SAs and stores prefer when customers buy for themselves. At least, I hope. In all the stores I shop, SAs enjoy the genuine appreciation I have for what I buy and wear. There is a lot of talk of prespend, but a genuine and honest love and interest for the brand, craftsmanship, and people behind each item trumps all spending in my opinion. For this reason, I don’t see the logic behind buying just to sell at a loss. Shopping like that sounds very uninteresting to me.
 
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