Hermes facebook group

[kittynui]

Hi,

I recently joined a Facebook group that sells hermes shoes, accessories, RTW, jewelry and bags. The group has like 11k members and I'm amazed at the number of brand new items sold below the purchase price (depending on their popularity) and sometimes much less when it comes to jewelry.

Do you think people buy items in store to create a purchase history in order to have quota bags more quickly?

I mean selling thing for +/- less than retail and then being offered a quota bag at the boutique is still better than buying a quota bag at premium.

what do you think?

 

[Hedgehog101]

Hi,

I recently joined a Facebook group that sells hermes shoes, accessories, RTW, jewelry and bags. The group has like 11k members and I'm amazed at the number of brand new items sold below the purchase price (depending on their popularity) and sometimes much less when it comes to jewelry.

Do you think people buy items in store to create a purchase history in order to have quota bags more quickly?

I mean selling thing for +/- less than retail and then being offered a quota bag at the boutique is still better than buying a quota bag at premium.

what do you think?

I am sure there are many people that do that. I personally don't resell much of my hermes stuff just because I 99% of the time only buy what I like. I enjoy the non bag items from Hermès as much as the bags that I got from Hermès. But yes, many people do resell so that they can establish their profile in a short period of time. I don't think there's anything wrong about it but just personal preference.

 

[jellyv]

Hi,

I recently joined a Facebook group that sells hermes shoes, accessories, RTW, jewelry and bags. The group has like 11k members and I'm amazed at the number of brand new items sold below the purchase price (depending on their popularity) and sometimes much less when it comes to jewelry.

Knowing nothing about the group, the thought comes to mind: what assurance of authenticity is involved in these transactions? How do you know you're seeing only authentic goods? It's the simplest explanation for unusually attractive pricing of allegedly new Hermes.

 

[kittynui]

Knowing nothing about the group, the thought comes to mind: what assurance of authenticity is involved in these transactions? How do you know you're seeing only authentic goods? It's the simplest explanation for unusually attractive pricing of allegedly new Hermes.

Of course there’s no guarantee, but I’m not sure you’ll see tons of fakes shoes/twilly/and jewelry.
Some members seems to be « reputable » sellers and of course scams do exist. I have purchased a swimsuit with one member because it was sold out in both my French and Hawaii store. The item was delivered to me in person by the seller.
There’s no purchase protection as most sellers prefer zelle or PayPal FF or wire transfer. Just have to do your research.

I’m prefer to buy things with my SAs and am in the group because I like to see reference pictures of the current available bags and other hot things + was happy to put and ISO for my swimsuit.

also I‘m wondering if I should really pay full price for a watch or jewelry just to add up in my purchase history when you can have them for way less than retail.

 

[jellyv]

Of course there’s no guarantee

also I‘m wondering if I should really pay full price for a watch or jewelry just to add up in my purchase history when you can have them for way less than retail.

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Are you saying that this listing makes sense to you? Does this represent the kind of offerings you're seeing in this group?

 

[showgratitude]

It is your money so you can do what you want to do with it. But, personally, I will be cautious with offers like that. They say if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Why would someone like to sell a brand new item at a loss? And if she does..how many more items, how many more times, and how much more money will she lose by doing this before she gets offered a B/K/C? (That is, if she even gets an offer..because we know that buying a lot of stuff is not a guarantee that the SA will offer her something she wants). If the person doing this is moneyed, then she doesn't need to sell at a loss. Most likely, she will just enjoy using the item or give it to her family/friends. She is probably well-connected too and doesn't need to do this to get a B/K/C. On the other hand, if she has a limited budget, I don't see how she will be okay losing money this way just to get a B/K/C. What are your thoughts?

Hi,

I recently joined a Facebook group that sells hermes shoes, accessories, RTW, jewelry and bags. The group has like 11k members and I'm amazed at the number of brand new items sold below the purchase price (depending on their popularity) and sometimes much less when it comes to jewelry.

Do you think people buy items in store to create a purchase history in order to have quota bags more quickly?

I mean selling thing for +/- less than retail and then being offered a quota bag at the boutique is still better than buying a quota bag at premium.

what do you think?

 

[Hedgehog101]

It is your money so you can do what you want to do with it. But, personally, I will be cautious with offers like that. They say if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Why would someone like to sell a brand new item at a loss? And if she does..how many more items, how many more times, and how much more money will she lose by doing this before she gets offered a B/K/C? (That is, if she even gets an offer..because we know that buying a lot of stuff is not a guarantee that the SA will offer her something she wants). If the person doing this is moneyed, then she doesn't need to sell at a loss. Most likely, she will just enjoy using the item or give it to her family/friends. She is probably well-connected too and doesn't need to do this to get a B/K/C. On the other hand, if she has a limited budget, I don't see how she will be okay losing money this way just to get a B/K/C. What are your thoughts?

But assuming that person only wants a bag and bought a piece of fine jewelry that worth 10k. She sells it at a loss of maybe 2 to 3k then got offered a bag (assuming 1:1). So this person got what she want (the bag) and spent the least amount of money on pre-spend to get it. I do think there are many that doing this to get a BKC offer at the lowest cost. Whether there are any fake goods circulating that would be another story I guess.

 

[CrazyCool01]

There are so many sellers on insta offering 30-40% off on Brand New RTW and Jewellery. they offer this so they can score a quota bag. same applies for fb groups.

 

[FaubourgTropical]

But assuming that person only wants a bag and bought a piece of fine jewelry that worth 10k. She sells it at a loss of maybe 2 to 3k then got offered a bag (assuming 1:1). So this person got what she want (the bag) and spent the least amount of money on pre-spend to get it. I do think there are many that doing this to get a BKC offer at the lowest cost. Whether there are any fake goods circulating that would be another story I guess.

This makes sense. And I believe this is the current practice (buying premium items to bolster purchase history), resulting in phenomenal growth of H non-bag businesses and low stock situation.

My fear buying from those FB reseller is fakes among the real stuffs. I am personally not confident that I can sift through the fakes to find my bargain. Esp with jewelleries.

PS: soon we might see saddles and riding crops being offered in IG or FB? (Kidding…. I know they’re personalized etc)

 

[acrowcounted]

But assuming that person only wants a bag and bought a piece of fine jewelry that worth 10k. She sells it at a loss of maybe 2 to 3k then got offered a bag (assuming 1:1). So this person got what she want (the bag) and spent the least amount of money on pre-spend to get it. I do think there are many that doing this to get a BKC offer at the lowest cost. Whether there are any fake goods circulating that would be another story I guess.

The problem is that so many people are doing this, that even listed at 50-60% off (ie a loss of $5,000+ per piece) items are still just sitting. I honestly dont know who in the world would buy them from these people anyway but I guess if you really loved an H bracelet but not their bags for some reason…. But anyway, with prespend ratios being so competitive and high, these resellers have to take these losses several times over before getting a bag. They must be ending up with the same cost out of pocket once they finally “score” a bag from the store as they would from just paying a higher price on the resale market and getting exactly the bag they want. With an economy on the verge of recession here, anyone planning to start Fb reselling as a business model better be prepared to lose money/hold their inventory for potentially years.

 

[showgratitude]

But assuming that person only wants a bag and bought a piece of fine jewelry that worth 10k. She sells it at a loss of maybe 2 to 3k then got offered a bag (assuming 1:1). So this person got what she want (the bag) and spent the least amount of money on pre-spend to get it. I do think there are many that doing this to get a BKC offer at the lowest cost. Whether there are any fake goods circulating that would be another story I guess.

I guess desperation for a B/K/C can drive someone to go this way Anyways, whatever they want to do with their money, I am okay with it. It is their money afterall.
80-90% of H stuff are fakes..if you look at articles written about it. Do I believe it? Yes! I speak from experience. I was duped with a fake B before..thus, I learned my lesson well.. and I am unwilling to take that gamble again!

 

[Hedgehog101]

I guess desperation for a B/K/C can drive someone to go this way Anyways, whatever they want to do with their money, I am okay with it. It is their money afterall.
80-90% of H stuff are fakes..if you look at articles written about it. Do I believe it? Yes! I speak from experience. I was duped with a fake B before..thus, I learned my lesson well.. and I am unwilling to take that gamble again!

Oh wow! Luckily I only buy from the boutique or Hermes.com... I agree it's desperation driving people selling at a loss of the non-bag items. After all the BKC are highly regarded bags in the luxury market... lots of people want one in their collection.

 

[kittynui]

the kind of post I see :

 

[acrowcounted]

the kind of post I see :
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CLosEt cLeAnoUt of these ten pairs of the hottest colors from the current season Orans in various sizes that I was totes planning to wear myself I just changed my mind! Oh and look at all these scarves! I simply have too many and sell them off every month! When will I figure out what works for me?!

 

[Pivoine66]

the kind of post I see :
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Do we know if such sellers are not often also those who "trick" the most desirable bags in this way as supposedly appreciative loyal customers and then sell the bags for prices like 3 to now sometimes 5 times the retail price? This is an easy way to make up for the smaller losses on shoes and scarves ... and still make immense profits?

It also creates a scarcity of supply for real interested customers.
In the luxury segment, you can't increase production at will. That would be a contradiction in terms.

So personally I will never support them and prefer to pay the full prize to Hermès.

Personally, this is slowly spoiling my enjoyment of Hermès.
To me, it looks like flogging beautiful products. It cheapens the brand.