**Hermes Chat**

[eagle1002us]

OMG I love owls and all these beautiful photos (even this funny one)! Years ago I worked with a raptor research organization where we would lure, trap, weigh, measure, tag and release various Birds of Prey. Soooooo cool. The best experience was working with the tiny Saw Whet Owls https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Northern_Saw-whet_Owl/id

They were so docile, you could actually pluck them from their roosting place snuggled against a pine trunk. Cutest/weirdest thing about them was just how much of them is made up of "fluff". Well, all owls actually, and if you look at the fuzzy knickers on the snowy owl posted earlier, note that everything is designed to silence any sound for stealth hunting. Even those toes! Anyway, the Saw Whets are so tiny that to weigh them we used open-at-both-ends empty frozen orange-juice cans. Stick the owl head first into the can, the diameter of which is about half of the owl's "fluffed" head. Weigh owl & inspect tail feathers for stress bands, pull owl back out and it just fuzzed back up like a very wide pipe cleaner. Put owl on arm and wait for it to fly off........which for some took a long time to do. Some would just sit there on the arm checking out the world, and you could even scritch the head and neck and it'd close it's eyes like ahhhh that feels good thanks for sorting out my feathers!

One time a Screetch owl bonked him/herself on our patio window. I grabbed my hubby's welding gloves* to bring said owl into the back hall (I had parrots and had to keep them very separated). Owl was pretty stunned and didn't track me properly with it's eyes at first but after a few hours I couldn't find it in the back hall. It was perched on the top of a pile of towels on a rack, looking down on me.

* those talons can go right through a hand.

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@WingNut If you think of more of these splendid encounters with birds and owls other wildlife, be sure to share them here. These are such cool stories! Love them, esp. scratching the owl on the head which he loved. It's really interesting knowing that the feathered legs and toesies contribute to stealth hunting.

 

[eagle1002us]

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This is mine, I don’t use an insert at all in mine as I prefer it slouchy - hope this helps

I have had a YSL Roady for years which is somewhat bigger than a Picotin ---altho I have to say that lime picotin is absolutely gorgeous. (Is it lime or another color?) My Roady flops a bit at the top and that's ok b/c to be honest, it's not tempting anyone to grab something out of the bag. Not that that has ever happened or ever will.

 

[eagle1002us]

I just got a Kelly 28 retourne Veau Evercolor Bleu Lin that comes with a normal shoulder strap. But after I was wondering if I could get a longer strap in the same colour to be able to wear it crossbody. Do you know if I can order that in any shop at any time. Does it need to be in the same shop I got the bag from? Below pic for reference. I’m so excited my very first Hermes bag!!!

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Congrats on your beautiful kelly, a truly smashing color. I got a couple of kellys on trips to Paris in 2019 (those were the days, no apparent Covid). One was lime the other gold. I wanted to carry them crossbody with the back of the bag showing so that it's somewhat less apparent that I have a kelly. H had and may still have wide woven straps which make the bag into a crossbody. I was able to get one in a gold pattern (they are patterned, not solid color) and also in a lime or vivid yellow. I really like these straps. Check out H.com and in necessary, resellers. The wider strap makes the bag more comfortable to wear.

 

[eagle1002us]

@Jktgal, me too. I graduated from high school at JIS, at the time Jakarta International School. My closest friends are still my high school friends even though I graduated in 1981! Some of my happiest memories are of times spent in Bali and Jakarta. I live in the US now, but I still see them as often as monthly. I was last there in 2018 for a high school reunion in Bali.

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View attachment 5590487Beautiful festival. Great fireworks.

 

[Ali-bagpuss]

I have had a YSL Roady for years which is somewhat bigger than a Picotin ---altho I have to say that lime picotin is absolutely gorgeous. (Is it lime or another color?) My Roady flops a bit at the top and that's ok b/c to be honest, it's not tempting anyone to grab something out of the bag. Not that that has ever happened or ever will.

That’s very true, the slouchier the bag the less likely anybody is to getting inside.
The Picotin is Bambou.

 

[notjanebirkin]

Might just be the particular photo.
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Congrats!

 

[eagle1002us]

Say hello to Ms. Sunset:





Such a beautiful koala.

 

[notjanebirkin]

I have made the decision, I am going against the masses and opting for a Birkin 40 or 35 the smallest. If I only can get a Kelly will be a 32. Note: I am only 5'3 around 147 lbs

 

[FaubourgTropical]

I have made the decision, I am going against the masses and opting for a Birkin 40 or 35 the smallest. If I only can get a Kelly will be a 32. Note: I am only 5'3 around 147 lbs

I am of a similar built. K32 and B35 suit me best. Anything smaller looks like toys on me (and actually make me look 'larger', if that makes sense). Yay for bigger bags!

 

[notjanebirkin]

I am of a similar built. K32 and B35 suit me best. Anything smaller looks like toys on me (and actually make me look 'larger', if that makes sense). Yay for bigger bags!

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Absolutely stunning on you!!!

 

[notjanebirkin]

I am genuinely curious
Q: People who purchase anything and everything they are asked to buy by their SA only to get a B or K. Does it not make more sense to just go to second hand and exactly get what you want with no wait?
I will not purchase 10K worth of stuff I do NOT like just to be offered a bag. I do shop there very often 40 K a year on average organically on stuff I actually want and have not thank god been asked *yet* to buy specific things for a bag offer. Furthermore, I have not even asked for a bag more than once from a store I have since moved away from due to relocation.
Thoughts?

 

[acrowcounted]

I am genuinely curious
Q: People who purchase anything and everything they are asked to buy by their SA only to get a B or K. Does it not make more sense to just go to second hand and exactly get what you want with no wait?
I will not purchase 10K worth of stuff I do NOT like just to be offered a bag. I do shop there very often 40 K a year on average organically on stuff I actually want and have not thank god been asked *yet* to buy specific things for a bag offer. Furthermore, I have not even asked for a bag more than once from a store I have since moved away from due to relocation.
Thoughts?

Seems like a straw man argument. I feel there are probably very very few people who “purchase anything and everything they are asked to buy by their SA” and would assume that since those very few people do it, they must think it’s worth it. Most SAs don’t tell their clients what to buy. Just like you, many of us organically shop for items we actually like and want, it just so happens that those purchases also register us favor toward a bag as well. If you are a spending client with a good SA relationship and want a bag, you should let your SA know of your specific interest. But to directly answer your question, if an SA laid out 10k worth of random items for me to buy to get a bag, I would simply find a different SA/store and would neither buy the 10k of stuff nor go to a reseller.

 

[notjanebirkin]

Seems like a straw man argument. I feel there are probably very very few people who “purchase anything and everything they are asked to buy by their SA” and would assume that since those very few people do it, they must think it’s worth it. Most SAs don’t tell their clients what to buy. Just like you, many of us organically shop for items we actually like and want, it just so happens that those purchases also register us favor toward a bag as well. If you are a spending client with a good SA relationship and want a bag, you should let your SA know of your specific interest. But to directly answer your question, if an SA laid out 10k worth of random items for me to buy to get a bag, I would simply find a different SA/store and would neither buy the 10k of stuff nor go to a reseller.

Not sure what you mean by a straw man argument. I am just curious.
I think I would kindly decline and say I am not interested in these items. The reason I am asking I want to see someone who actually does that reply. I keep hearing about this behavior but do no k ow anyone first hand. I do know a person (my sister) at the BH store in the US that was promised a Birkin if she bought a Jypsiere a few years ago when it first came out and she went and did just that. I said if you did not actually like it, means you spend double to get a Birkin.

 

[PrayersandPurses]

Seems like a straw man argument. I feel there are probably very very few people who “purchase anything and everything they are asked to buy by their SA” and would assume that since those very few people do it, they must think it’s worth it. Most SAs don’t tell their clients what to buy. Just like you, many of us organically shop for items we actually like and want, it just so happens that those purchases also register us favor toward a bag as well. If you are a spending client with a good SA relationship and want a bag, you should let your SA know of your specific interest. But to directly answer your question, if an SA laid out 10k worth of random items for me to buy to get a bag, I would simply find a different SA/store and would neither buy the 10k of stuff nor go to a reseller.

acrowcounted I just want to say Amen to your quote. If I could add one in that's what it would say!

 

[eagle1002us]

I am of a similar built. K32 and B35 suit me best. Anything smaller looks like toys on me (and actually make me look 'larger', if that makes sense). Yay for bigger bag

Yeah, I got a 25 birkin, my first and only B, years ago at my local boutique. Bad decision. It was pretty but I really need a K32. The alternative offered was a 35 or 40 K in orangey-red which was clearly overpowering on me. The tiny B was too tiny for my 5 ft. 6 in. height. Nevertheless, I talked myself in getting it b/c it could be considered a tiny "dressy" bag. Ultimately, I used the bag only a handful of times, non dressy, just ordinary life. It just wasn't working for me.

Funny story. I decided to take to Paris an anniversary Coach bag, something like their 100th. It was a big bag but clearly a shoulder bag beautifully made. The black color made the large size fine on me. It was an unusual style with braided leather, I rarely used it but I very much liked it. SA saw it and brought a 40 Gold kelly to me. Now that rather oversized K looked much better on me proportion wise than the 25 B I had stopped using. She had some tiny swatches of murky colors for smaller K's (is there a store policy that the smaller the bag the smaller the swatch and vice versa?) but if I wanted to see one of these bags in person all other choices would end, that would be the bag I was allowed to buy. I really couldn't tell from the tiny swatches exactly what the available K's would look like.

I think I could grow to like the gold K, it is a nice color for the fall colors I prefer in my wardrobe. My appetite for K's and B's is now satiated. I doubt I'll add another to the 4 K's I have. I think being satiated is a real real good feeling compared with hoping to attain another bag.