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gracekelly said:
They are and parents are the enablers. Give the baby whatever it takes to keep him/her from whining.
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It's more than just babies. I do think it's become a serious issue with people. One reason may be we have overall become so isolated in how we exist that it seems to be harder and harder for people to function normally in interactions with others. There's little sense of community, or common tie amongst people and when there is no feeling of community, there's also litle feeling of respect or kindness in how people treat others they don't know. Everyone is, at that point, an outsider.
 
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I don't have children either, but I do have nieces and nephews. To be honest I have to always remind myself to ask people how the children are doing, and most of the time, they give a nice short answer and the conversation moves in another direction. However, there is always someone who thinks that when you ask the question, they have to give a complete recitation of every event, school report, sports award etc. Get the picture? Oy! I had one friend who did this once when I was with my mother and when we finally freed ourselves from her, my mother asked me if this girl realized what a bore she was? I felt terrible, because the woman was really very nice, just don't get her started about her kids!

Yes, I have been down the road of the children being the center of the universe during social visits. Those relationships did not last long for me either.
 
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bunnycat said:
It's more than just babies. I do think it's become a serious issue with people. One reason may be we have overall become so isolated in how we exist that it seems to be harder and harder for people to function normally in interactions with others. There's little sense of community, or common tie amongst people and when there is no feeling of community, there's also litle feeling of respect or kindness in how people treat others they don't know. Everyone is, at that point, an outsider.
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Yes, and texting, email etc drives us farther and farther from human interaction.
 
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gracekelly said:
You have daughters so you would appreciate the thread that is giving me this idea. I understand parents, especially those who grew up quite poor, who have the great fortune to do extremely well financially in their work life, want their children to have have the nice things that they did not have when they were growing up, but..... I think they are on their way to creating self-entitled monsters by giving them too much too soon and then having them associate with children who think the same. This is why there is the old saying: the first generation makes the money, the second generation spends the money, and the third generation loses the money. I think that in some cases, it jumps from one to three and poof it is gone,
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Well said GK!! Can't agree with you more.
 
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gracekelly said:
I don't have children either, but I do have nieces and nephews. To be honest I have to always remind myself to ask people how the children are doing, and most of the time, they give a nice short answer and the conversation moves in another direction. However, there is always someone who thinks that when you ask the question, they have to give a complete recitation of every event, school report, sports award etc. Get the picture? Oy! I had one friend who did this once when I was with my mother and when we finally freed ourselves from her, my mother asked me if this girl realized what a bore she was? I felt terrible, because the woman was really very nice, just don't get her started about her kids!

Yes, I have been down the road of the children being the center of the universe during social visits. Those relationships did not last long for me either.
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GK, I know what you mean about people talking about their children. I don't mind the short answer to quick have an update on them but it would send me to sleep if they start to give a full report. I guess that's what mums' groups are for?
 
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I finished watching Riviera and apart from the scenery, the story and acting were disappointing. Julia Stiles tried her best but the weak script is letting her down. I blame the writers! I think it's a mild flop and Sky probably won't make any money on it...
 
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gracekelly said:
You have daughters so you would appreciate the thread that is giving me this idea. I understand parents, especially those who grew up quite poor, who have the great fortune to do extremely well financially in their work life, want their children to have have the nice things that they did not have when they were growing up, but..... I think they are on their way to creating self-entitled monsters by giving them too much too soon and then having them associate with children who think the same. This is why there is the old saying: the first generation makes the money, the second generation spends the money, and the third generation loses the money. I think that in some cases, it jumps from one to three and poof it is gone,
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Oh how I agree with you. We have a son ( who we just dropped off at college yesterday - yikes ) and a daughter who will be a freshman in high school. It is a private school. DS went there too. It is bizarre to see some of the entitlement these children display.
DH and I know our children are spoiled. Entitled? No way. In fact I point this behavior out to both of my kids. I let them know that if they ever come close to this behavior, I will knock them off their feet fast. Graciousness will get you everywhere in this world. Kindness too. And not saying the word "like" every other moment will make you sound much smarter [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
 
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xiangxiang0731 said:
Lucky you! I have never been to Chicago! I have only watched the film "Chicago". So what are the must see/dos?
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Architectural boat cruise on the river. We did that the morning after we arrived and it gave us a good overview of the city centre. The docent we had was excellent- very knowledgeable and funny.

Millennium Park where the Bean is. There's also a Frank Ghery band shell in the park. The flower beds are gorgeous.

Magnificent Mile shopping area. This was crowded but Oak Street where the high end boutiques are was very pleasant.

I didn't go but some of our group went to the Wills Tower observation areas where you can walk out on clear floors and look down.

The area we were in, Magnificent Mile, was very clean and safe.
 
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pursecrzy said:
Architectural boat cruise on the river. We did that the morning after we arrived and it gave us a good overview of the city centre. The docent we had was excellent- very knowledgeable and funny.

Millennium Park where the Bean is. There's also a Frank Ghery band shell in the park. The flower beds are gorgeous.

Magnificent Mile shopping area. This was crowded but Oak Street where the high end boutiques are was very pleasant.

I didn't go but some of our group went to the Wills Tower observation areas where you can walk out on clear floors and look down.

The area we were in, Magnificent Mile, was very clean and safe.
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Sounds fabulous, pursecrzy! I love city cruises and I am sure I would enjoyed the one in Chicago. I love seeing a city via it's waterway! Did you buy anything from the shops?
 
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