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Just received the rest of the initial order (all three scarfs (first one was posted when thread was started) were ordered at the same time but came with delay in a mail). So this is one more proof of degraded business that became a norm.

As you can see two (2) scarfs are from a SALE with S stamp on a care tag. So I got three (3) scarfs from Hermes online stamped with SALE as new for a full retail price. Three scarfs! This is from a company that never ever had sale online as a common practice as many retails do. Also, the S stamp is different form first one. The S letter is smaller; hence a sale batch is different.

Look at orange boxes. Both have 90cm scarfs in it, but one box was not made for 90cm but for 70cm scarf instead. No big deal, just put it in anyhow, right? But this is not a sale item, it was purchased for a full whooping $530 US from a ‘luxury brand”. It will be OK if it was on a sale like other retail does.

Yes, of course, I did contact Hermes about the first scarf with S stamp (first one was posted in first post). Response was that Hermes is urgently looking into this issue and will reply me back. I still waiting for reply for a week now. Yes, I can ship it back, but I love jacquard old silk. And I love art created by independent artists who printed scarf at Hermes.

Contact Hermes CEO? Do you have his contact? I do not, send it to me if you have one. Apparently, this is not available for ordinary customers. Even I am not able to contact Hermes Paris headquarter.

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I have just pm'd you info.
Strongly suggest that you do not use the words trashy, unfair, deceptive & fraudulent
& keep your raging emotions out of your note to describe this issue.
 
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It seems that sale item is valued less but I do not really understand why unless one is a reseller (paying full price but cannot resell at the same high price).

My understanding initially before reading this thread was that the 's' was a sign that the item was sold in a sale, at cheaper price, and final (ie no exchange etc).

But if the scarf is such a difficult item to get, wouldn’t it better to buy it direct from H, in a GOOD condition, albeit marked 's' rather than playing roulette from a reseller at much higher price? Wouldn’t the aim of the purchase to acquire this hard-to-get item regardless of price?

Pardon my ignorance but apparently I miss something here.
 
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It seems that sale item is valued less but I do not really understand why unless one is a reseller (paying full price but cannot resell at the same high price).

My understanding initially before reading this thread was that the 's' was a sign that the item was sold in a sale, at cheaper price, and final (ie no exchange etc).

But if the scarf is such a difficult item to get, wouldn’t it better to buy it direct from H albeit marked 's' rather than playing roulette from a reseller at much higher price? Wouldn’t the aim of the purchase to acquire this hard-to-get item regardless of price?

Pardon my ignorance but apparently I miss something here.
I think the issue is why would someone want to pay full-price to Hermes for a scarf that Hermes themselves would have listed at a lower sale price.
 
Just received the rest of the initial order (all three scarfs (first one was posted when thread was started) were ordered at the same time but came with delay in a mail). So this is one more proof of degraded business that became a norm.

As you can see two (2) scarfs are from a SALE with S stamp on a care tag. So I got three (3) scarfs from Hermes online stamped with SALE as new for a full retail price. Three scarfs! This is from a company that never ever had sale online as a common practice as many retails do. Also, the S stamp is different form first one. The S letter is smaller; hence a sale batch is different.

Look at orange boxes. Both have 90cm scarfs in it, but one box was not made for 90cm but for 70cm scarf instead. No big deal, just put it in anyhow, right? But this is not a sale item, it was purchased for a full whooping $530 US from a ‘luxury brand”. It will be OK if it was on a sale like other retail does.

Yes, of course, I did contact Hermes about the first scarf with S stamp (first one was posted in first post). Response was that Hermes is urgently looking into this issue and will reply me back. I still waiting for reply for a week now. Yes, I can ship it back, but I love jacquard old silk. And I love art created by independent artists who printed scarf at Hermes.

Contact Hermes CEO? Do you have his contact? I do not, send it to me if you have one. Apparently, this is not available for ordinary customers. Even I am not able to contact Hermes Paris headquarter.

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Brandebourgs Tattoo scarf 90

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But for the S on the tag and the size of the box on this shipment, what is the problem? Am I nuts or something? Donate these horrible representations of disrespect to Goodwill.
 
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This sounds like an inventory control situation which likely was done without intent
& simply a human error.
do you want another one of that same scarf that isn't marked as being on sale that you'd pay the full $480 for
Hermes refusing to receive your return and refund you the entire purchase back?
If not, just return the scarves and never shop at Hermes or online shop again
This is real trash coming from Hermes official online store”? TRASH

Agree with above (apologies for prematurely cutting off the last quote which may give the erroneous impression that @indiaink believes s scarves are trash (I’m not sure how to edit quotes)

I am sorry OP that you are so upset, and I do hope you can get to an outcome that is acceptable to uou. Since the scarves you purchased are older, I’m not sure that Hermes warehouse has others.

I have purchased H sample sale scarves from the H yearly sample sale (which oddly did not have a sale stamp). I didn’t notice any defects either.

I have no idea what the criteria is for Hermes to put scarves on sale. I’m sure some members here do know and will chime in. But, I wouldn’t let an s stamp on a label of an otherwise acceptable scarf hold me back.

In other words, if it were me, and I had the chance to buy a few of my dream scarves at a retail price, but with an S stamp, I would gladly purchase. Bc it’s just too damn hard to find them otherwise. I should also note that I prefer to get value back by cost per wear, not resale value.

All of us have differing levels of what is acceptable, and thank you for bringing the s stamp on H.com website to the notice of all of us reading your thread.
 
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I think the issue is why would someone want to pay full-price to Hermes for a scarf that Hermes themselves would have listed at a lower sale price.
I know this but if this is something I REALLY want and it’s in acceptable condition (not defective) to me, I would not make a fuss as the goal is to have it in my possession (at a standard H price, not reseller marked up).
Maybe it’s just me who sees this as a non-issue. :confused1:

ETA: sorry, 880 explained it better than me.
 
But for the S on the tag and the size of the box on this shipment, what is the problem? Am I nuts or something? Donate these horrible things to Goodwill.
Agree with this too. If it’s an older scarf that is hard to find, just return it or remove the tag and keep. It’s bc possible that in the past, Hermes just put older unsold scarves in the sample sale, in which case, there’s no substantive issue

Just realized it took me six paragraphs above post to say what @haute okole and @BVBookshop said in three lines . Lol

ETA: boxes and bags from premier designers were massively affected by supply chain shortage, which should signal to the rest of us that we should look into buying stock from companies manufacturing cardboard, if we haven’t done so already
 
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OP, I have to agree with many other comments. Your issues have easy solutions.

1) If they sent you something not in spec, return it or ask for a discount. That’s reeeeeeaaaaalllly simple to do.

2) Hermes (corporate) doesn’t know you from a ferret. So, this is not personal. Therefore the negative emotions you are flooded with are only hurting your psyche and your body. Hermes is going to be just fine. I’m irritated with Chanel. They are also going to be just fine.

3) Your language is histrionic because it’s inaccurate. No one is trying to silence you. That is the exact opposite of a public forum. People can (and will) disagree with you without being corporate plants. Posters are simply suggesting you discuss the issue without false terminology and telling you how if you respond to the company in certain ways they may choose not to do business with you.

4) If you have had so many issues with Hermes, I remain puzzled as to why you keep buying from them - particularly online. There is a world of beautiful merchandise out there. Find a brand that treats you as you want to be treated.

We are a very supportive community here! But, you will be better heard if you take the (repeatedly offered) advice you asked for and don’t turn on people for having a perspective that causes you to have pause.
 
Let me also enlighten the OP on how retail works in general. Sometimes retailers mark merchandise off the original price to move the item. These items are typically offered on a discounted price for a limited period of time and some lucky buyers buy those marked down items during that limited sale window. If the retailers fail to sell these marked down items, some retailers then sell these items to discounters like TJ Max, Gilt, RueLaLa, etc. It appears that Hermes sells their older inventory on line that may have been on sale in the boutiques. Some lucky buyers catch merchandise when it is on sale, you were not lucky because you missed the sale. In any event, life is hard right now and maybe things are tough for you. While I initially empathized with your disappointment, the more you continue to bemoan your perceived injustice, the less I empathize.
 
OP, I have to agree with many other comments. Your issues have easy solutions.

1) If they sent you something not in spec, return it or ask for a discount. That’s reeeeeeaaaaalllly simple to do.

2) Hermes (corporate) doesn’t know you from a ferret. So, this is not personal. Therefore the negative emotions you are flooded with are only hurting your psyche and your body. Hermes is going to be just fine. I’m irritated with Chanel. They are also going to be just fine.

3) Your language is histrionic because it’s inaccurate. No one is trying to silence you. That is the exact opposite of a public forum. People can (and will) disagree with you without being corporate plants. Posters are simply suggesting you discuss the issue without false terminology and telling you how if you respond to the company in certain ways they may choose not to do business with you.

4) If you have had so many issues with Hermes, I remain puzzled as to why you keep buying from them - particularly online. There is a world of beautiful merchandise out there. Find a brand that treats you as you want to be treated.

We are a very supportive community here! But, you will be better heard if you take the (repeatedly offered) advice you asked for and don’t turn on people for having a perspective that causes you to have pause.

Yes to all of this, but especially #2. :lol:

@Sparkletastic, I am your newest fangirl. :loveeyes:
 
I happened to order a past season scarf, received just a few days ago stamped with an S. I never would have looked if it hadn’t been for this thread. It’s already in transit back to H.

Just posting an acknowledgement on this particular point. I stand corrected!
The rest of what I wrote is still good, though.
 
I purchased an Acte III shawl from the recent AW 2019 restock and it came perfectly boxed, not wrinkled, and there was no sale stamp. I have just checked to verify this.

For the record, I was aware before buying that scarves from the AW 2019 season had made their way into various different H sales. Even knowing this, I was thrilled with the restock and happily purchased at H retail price instead of an inflated reseller price. I personally think it was genius for Hermes to do this restock. Obviously it appears to that sale-marked scarves slipped through, and that is a quality control issue. I hope customer service rectified it. But to be fraud, there must be intent.
 
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