Sorry to go off topic again. I just came back from Beijing (can't believe how much more beautiful it is compared to the last time I was there in 2000) and asked dear husband to take me to one of those places where they sell replicas --- sorry ladies, there were friends/relatives who asked me to get bags for them. There were really hideous looking cabats --- very stiff leather, leather strips were assymetrical with some thin and some thick strips --- very bad looking, bag just didn't stand well at all. But, there were also the Class A veneta hobo replicas which I have to say are pretty darn good. The weave is pretty good --- symetric lines/strips of leather, leather is well-dyed/saturated, leather smells pretty good (not plasticky at all and smells like real leather). However the leather is softer than the nappa of BV so the bag doesn't "stand", just plops over and doesn't have that body. The handle looks slightly 'odd' because the leather doesn't hold the shape and the zipper looks cheap (you know how cheap zippers seem to have that "light" bite when you zip it up or down) But I have to say the counterfeiters are getting closer. This is probably not even what they call Class A4 or something like that.
The heat stamp still looks off --- but again it's getting better. This is my first time to see a replica Bottega. I'm commenting about the better stamping because 12 yrs. ago, I remember how bad the LV Vernis bags were because the stamping was so light and uneven. Now the stamping on the leather is more defined and bolder. The lining is suede-like --- but feels much cheaper and there is no authenticity tag inside the bag.
The bag has a lot less "body" when you hold it because it just plops over from too much softness. However, visually they're getting pretty darn close, at least to me. We were living in Shanghai when the replica bag industry was at its infancy and I remember how hideous most of the bags were. There are still hideous looking lower class bags. But if you go up in class and pay more --- they do start to look good...
So I would really like to thank our hardworking BV authenticators for sharing their knowledge and saving all of us from heart-breaking purchases.
P.S. I really don't mind if people buy replicas for as long as they know it's a replica they are buying and are not being cheated.