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The way I look at it and leaving the morality of the moral issues surrounding the fake trade:

If you can't afford the real thing, why try to pass yourself off as though you can? I can't afford a Birkin. Does that mean I'm going to pick up a fake one because it looks the same just so I can look like I can? In the end, that's all fakes are about... looking like one can afford something they really can't. Why else would they exist? They are certainly nowhere near the quality of the real thing.

I think it's pretty sad but that's just my opinion.
 
The way I look at it and leaving the morality of the moral issues surrounding the fake trade:

If you can't afford the real thing, why try to pass yourself off as though you can? I can't afford a Birkin. Does that mean I'm going to pick up a fake one because it looks the same just so I can look like I can? In the end, that's all fakes are about... looking like one can afford something they really can't. Why else would they exist? They are certainly nowhere near the quality of the real thing."
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As I posted earlier in this thread, I am always amazed how it's okay for people to pass off buying fake jewelry under the aspice of "travel jewlery", but if someone tried to make the same argument for Hermes, it's out of the question.

I reiterate that while my bags and jewelry are real, people have their reasons or comfort levels for buying fakes. Maybe it is so they can have brands that they otherwise could not afford. Desire, affection for a brand and the ability to afford that brand is a very gray area.

Who says that just because you carry the real thing means you can afford it? I once read a mind blowing thread in the Hermes section about what people will do to "afford" a Hermes bag. Among them, people brown bagging lunches and denying themselves other things in life in order to save for their purchase. When you have to change your standard of living for a bag, you cannot afford it.

Moral issues aside with fake and real items, I just don't pass judgment on anyone who buys them. I also won't accept the hypocricy that it's acceptable for people to own fake diamonds (cz's) as a "safe alternative" to wearing real, but doing the same for a bag is a considered a horredous offense.

Lastly, there were the comments of "investing" in real. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with trying something fake to determine if some day you want the real one. I actually think it's a better financial decision to try something out first, then spending a ton of money on an item you may regret buying later. That's why it's called a "test drive". And let's face it, some items we covet cost more than most cars!
 
One of the reasons that I'm contemplating purchasing a fake Hermes clic bracelet has to do with quality. BTW, I own a real one already but it is the thin one. And I'm now interested in the wide one. I understand that the real ones often break and you cannot get them wet. If I had a fake one, I would not worry as much about getting it wet or messed up because I'm not paying as much for it. I wouldn't want ALL fake everything! As my opening post stated, I'm curious about people's opinions of mixing a real Love bracelet next to a fake Hermes bracelet. I like the look. I wonder if the Hermes (real or fake) might put more scratches on the Love bracelet if it flips over it. Thanks to everyone for all your responses.
 
You don't "test drive" a fake to decide if you should get a real one. The feel and everything is totally different from a fake bag versus a real bag. A fake bag might break on you within a week, who knows. The material and craftsmanship is totally different also. You can't compare the two. Also if you want to "test drive" then high end retailers have return policy. NONE of them are final sale.

"An investmant is something that turns the money invested into the item/thing....into more money. As much as we all LOVE jewlery and bags, they are not investments."

Some authentic designer items can be considered as "investments". My Limited Edition LV bags have always sold for more than what I bought it for, and the returns from what I can see on ebay for Chanel bags are pretty good also. Also, investments doesn't have to just be all about profit...just as long as you get a return on it imo. A fake bag, once you are done with it, what can you do to it? Throw it away is the only option...so there goes $100 (or whatever they cost) down the drain. A real bag then at least we can sell it and recoup some of the money (say a Balenciaga bag, I bought it for $1100, after 4 years I sell it for $500, so I get some money back and the 4 years of enjoying the bag).

but regarding this topic, no I wouldn't mix real with fake. Because I just wouldn't feel right. But that's just me.
 
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Lec8504 - wish I read your post 30 min. ago! I bought the fake Hermes for $90. I think the real one is $530. It wasn't totally impulsive as I been thinking about it for several days. I will wear it but no more fakes for me! I just made an exception this one time. Your point is so true that if it breaks or I get tired of it, it is worth zero. At least if I bought the real one and it broke I could either return to store for repair. And if I didn't care for it anymore, I could save for my DD someday or try to recoup some of the money back from selling on ebay. I will wear it and enjoy it but no more fakes!!!!
 
Lec8504 - wish I read your post 30 min. ago! I bought the fake Hermes for $90. I think the real one is $530. It wasn't totally impulsive as I been thinking about it for several days. I will wear it but no more fakes for me! I just made an exception this one time. Your point is so true that if it breaks or I get tired of it, it is worth zero. At least if I bought the real one and it broke I could either return to store for repair. And if I didn't care for it anymore, I could save for my DD someday or try to recoup some of the money back from selling on ebay. I will wear it and enjoy it but no more fakes!!!!

It's good you made the decision you aren't buying anymore fakes... that's what I would do... :tup:
 
Lec8504 - wish I read your post 30 min. ago! I bought the fake Hermes for $90. I think the real one is $530. It wasn't totally impulsive as I been thinking about it for several days. I will wear it but no more fakes for me! I just made an exception this one time. Your point is so true that if it breaks or I get tired of it, it is worth zero. At least if I bought the real one and it broke I could either return to store for repair. And if I didn't care for it anymore, I could save for my DD someday or try to recoup some of the money back from selling on ebay. I will wear it and enjoy it but no more fakes!!!!

good for you...I'm glad :)

Maybe it's the accountant in me but I try to think about returns and profits with most of the things I buy hehe. And I'm planning to hand down all of my bags/shoes/jewelry to my future daughter as well...it'll be so much more special :D
 
A lot of jewelry is an investment because gold and diamonds for example, etc. can bring you money when and if you sell them.
Yeah! Try taking a gold and diamond ring or other piece of jewelry to sell--you end up getting the cost of scrap gold. And the diamonds are harder to sell.
As for me- I would rather wear "inspired by" pieces and use my money for important things--I don't worry about passing it down to my daughter. I only want to pass down good values to her- I don't want her judging people by what they wear.
BTW- I don't care who makes something- I only care if I like the look of it. Some of what I like happens to be "designer"- but I just can't justify their prices.
 
As I posted earlier in this thread, I am always amazed how it's okay for people to pass off buying fake jewelry under the aspice of "travel jewlery", but if someone tried to make the same argument for Hermes, it's out of the question.

I reiterate that while my bags and jewelry are real, people have their reasons or comfort levels for buying fakes. Maybe it is so they can have brands that they otherwise could not afford. Desire, affection for a brand and the ability to afford that brand is a very gray area.

And that's fine but then we get into the argument of supporting child labor and other such issues that have been linked to the fake trade.

Who says that just because you carry the real thing means you can afford it? I once read a mind blowing thread in the Hermes section about what people will do to "afford" a Hermes bag. Among them, people brown bagging lunches and denying themselves other things in life in order to save for their purchase. When you have to change your standard of living for a bag, you cannot afford it.

People make sacrafices based upon what is important to them. If a Hermes Birkin will make you happy and you can do so by cutting out luxuries like going out to eat every day, that's fine so long as you're not going into debt over it. Not being able to afford something = charging it and not paying it off or being charged interest while paying it off. If the same money is being used on a different purchase, that is not an indicator of not being able to afford something. It is shifting money around based upon evolving desires.

Moral issues aside with fake and real items, I just don't pass judgment on anyone who buys them. I also won't accept the hypocricy that it's acceptable for people to own fake diamonds (cz's) as a "safe alternative" to wearing real, but doing the same for a bag is a considered a horredous offense.

CZ's aren't stealing someone's intellectual property (unless of course it is a patented cut or the setting is an exact replica). Carrying a bag that has LV plastered all over it when it is not in fact a genuine Louis Vuitton product is.

Lastly, there were the comments of "investing" in real. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with trying something fake to determine if some day you want the real one. I actually think it's a better financial decision to try something out first, then spending a ton of money on an item you may regret buying later. That's why it's called a "test drive". And let's face it, some items we covet cost more than most cars!

I see plenty wrong with it... but that's where the morality comes in. If someone chooses to support it, then that's on their own conscience. Continuing to purchase fake bags you are "test driving" will only continue to promote the trade itself along with all the horrible things that go with it. And let's face it... how many people that buy a fake do so just to test drive before they buy the real one. I'll be honest, that is the first time I have ever heard that.


PS - I didn't mean for this to come across argumentative.. just wanted to respond to each "section" which is why I bolded the text so it could be differentiated. :smile1:
 
If the fakes aren't the result of some tragic child labor, then go for it. It seems silly to spend thousands of dollars on something if you can get something that looks exactly the same for much less. For those of us who can't afford to get designer jewelry, fakes are great, and no one short of a gemologist will ever know the difference.
 
PS - I didn't mean for this to come across argumentative.. just wanted to respond to each "section" which is why I bolded the text so it could be differentiated. :smile1:

I didn't take it that way at all. As I said from the beginning, we are all entitled to share our opinions. Hokaplan's question gave me the opportunity to speak out on something that's always irked me.

Child labor and unfair trade practices span all facets of manufactured goods. It is an unfortunate practice, but it does exist.

CZ's do capitalize on the intellectual property of jewelry manufacturers when a setting/cut is copied, i.e., Tiffany's Lucida in the lattice setting.
They also undermine the diamond trade the way a replica bag company compromise the brands they copy, but flooding the market with cheaper alternatives that are becoming so identical, it's almost impossible to tell them apart; real from fake.

Lastly, to clarify my example of "test-driving" a brand item. I meant it more in the sense of size, style and color; rather than just the brand itself. And it actually extends more to jewlery, than bags. Seeing if a pair of large "diamond stud earrings" made of CZ's fits into your lifestyle, are comfortable for when you want to wear them, and are overall what you desire, makes a heck of a lot more sense, then laying out a fortune for the real thing only to find that it's not what you want. And make no mistake, you will never get your original money back on diamonds, I don't care who you are.
 
I have never bought a fake, although I don't judge anyone who does. I admit that I see a lot of appalling fake Louis Vuitton and Tiffany silver, but I just laugh to myself and move on. If it's a convincing fake I'll never know the difference.

But really, who are we trying to protect here by not buying fakes? Do we really believe that the clothes we wear, the cars we drive, our personal effects (makeup, toilet paper, etc.) and even the real designer's packaging materials aren't the fruits of child labor? I guarantee you they are. Almost everything American shoppers consume is.

Sometimes I really do believe people use logos on real pieces to convey status - which in my opinion is sadder than using a fake designer item for simple fashion.

I stick to what I can afford: target jeans, Tiffany silver, an odd piece of gold in the 1k price range, and Gucci/LV leather and canvas. I don't want to pretend to be something I'm not. But if someone would rather spend their money on a mortgage payment or their child's tuition rather than a grossly overpriced enameled base metal bracelet, why would I care? I'm not a shareholder in Hermes stocks. I don't care.

Hokaplan, wear the bracelet well! I'm glad it's a fun piece for you.
 
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