Do Parisians wear Hermes?

[jellyv]

I don't find the offense. .

Let me illuminate that for you. The question was about what Parisians carry. The answer described "Asians in Paris," as if this is a group separate from what is understood to be Parisians. If it was "Jews in Paris" or "black people in Paris," would you then be able to see that this is a way to describe Hermes wearers as folks other than "Parisians" or "not really Parisians"? The subject of the thread and all.

 

[MonsoonBirkin]

Let me illuminate that for you. The question was about what Parisians carry. The answer described "Asians in Paris," as if this is a group separate from what is understood to be Parisians. If it was "Jews in Paris" or "black people in Paris," would you then be able to see that this is a way to describe Hermes wearers as folks other than "Parisians" or "not really Parisians"? The subject of the thread and all.

There are subcultures in every city. Each of them may behave and dress differently than the other: this again is not a critique but observation. If you say "Hispanic youth in LA" this would *generally* lend itself to a different dress code, music preference, and economic status than if you were to say, "older white people in LA." There's no point in pretending like these differences don't exist. Marketing execs sure don't.

 

[jellyv]

There are subcultures in every city. There's no point in pretending like these differences don't exist. Marketing execs sure don't.

Again, and again, you're missing the point. The language was a way to distinguish said "Asians" from "Parisians," the presumed subject of the thread. Not a way of saying they are one and the same with what's considered "Parisians."

Moving on, clearly this is going nowhere for some readers.

 

[MonsoonBirkin]

Again, and again, you're missing the point. The language was a way to distinguish "Asians" from "Parisians," the presumed subject of the thread. Not a way of saying they are one and the same with what's considered "Parisians."

Moving on, clearly this is going nowhere for some readers.

And again... and again... I'm saying that there's nothing inherent in the language used in the person's two sentences that indicates such an assumption when there are alternative, valid explanations.

 

[Keren16]

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[PJW5813]

I wondered if the idea behind the question in the thread title might have been based on opportunity rather than cultural decisions:

With Paris being the home of Hermes,
with three outlets including the flagship store,
a lot of frequently renewed stock
and lower prices than anywhere else. . .

Are these greater purchasing opportunities for Parisians (interpreted in the widest sense of people living or working in Paris - therefore being in Paris on an almost daily basis) reflected in their wardrobes and what they choose to wear?

 

[chicinthecity777]

And again... and again... I'm saying that there's nothing inherent in the language used in the person's two sentences that indicates such an assumption when there are alternative, valid explanations.

Again, just because you don't think so, doesn't mean nobody else should think so! As clearly demonstrated, many people do think the remarks have racist undertones, you can't just tell them to think otherwise! Just as you can think what you think, others are free to think how they think.

 

[chicinthecity777]

Again, and again, you're missing the point. The language was a way to distinguish said "Asians" from "Parisians," the presumed subject of the thread. Not a way of saying they are one and the same with what's considered "Parisians."

Moving on, clearly this is going nowhere for some readers.

Right? Definitely going no where for some as some are not interested in hearing anything else apart from their own voice!

 

[PJW5813]

Here is the OED definition.

"A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another."

This trait was not shown in the post that caused this controversy.

 

[chicinthecity777]

She didn't say Asian tourists, though, which would lend credence to your belief that she's excluding this group from being a Parisian. I don't see how what she wrote indicates this (what yes, would be a racist) assumption.

She doesn't need to say Asian at all!

 

[chicinthecity777]

Here is the OED definition.

"A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another."

This trait was not shown in the post that caused this controversy.

Who are you to determine that? Just because you posted a statement, doesn't make you the authority to decide what's racist and what's not. In fact, the posts here demonstrated many people think the opposite of you.

 

[ladysarah]

I would love to hear if there are any members here who actually live and work in Paris right now.
As someone who has to visit for work on a regular basis and these iare my observations from a couple of Parisian friends.
Hermes brand is treated with reverence and a degree of affection. Scarves in particular are sought after and admired. One of my friends tends to get them as regular treats, anniversary presents etc. They are much more likely to be part of a Parisian wardrobe than anything else Hermes. Bags are also admired but Parisians like to use their bags to actually carry stuff rather than just collect or store them and protect the corners. Of course these are relatively well off Parisians.
I see quite a lot of Hermes round st Germain, where I usually stay, But there are also are a lot of Americans and ex pats who live in the area.

Sent from my iPhone

 

[dublineuse]

I live and work in Paris so maybe i can help you?
It all depends on the area, really !
If you wander around FSH or Saint Germain of course you will spot many Birkins from well-off Parisians.
If you go to the 18th/19th 'arrondissement', chances are you will see none.
It's easier to spot (silver) Hermès jewelry or leather bracelets on Parisians are they are way more affordable. I think the most popular bag for Parisians is the Evelyne (=not the most expensive)
At work i can tell it's the number one brand for men's ties.
Hermès is even more popular in the south west of France (Biarritz for instance) because many wealthy French people have secondary homes there.
I have never seen a Parisian with a bright-colored Hermès bag ; they tend to carry discreet colours and under-the radar items

I totally agree with you for the Parisian degree of affection toward Hermès, i feel that way myself

 

[QuelleFromage]

I lived and worked in Paris for years and @dublineuse put it perfectly.

I would not miss this thread, though. It is starting to remind me of the comments in the Paris shopping thread that were finally deleted after several of us messaged mods. Not as bad, certainly, but could head that way.

 

[PetitVoyageur]

Haha, ladies, there is no need to arugue about this. I use Asian cuz I am Asian as well, lol. I just described what I observed in Paris, that’s it. At the same time when travelled to all 3 hermès stores I also noticed there are many Asian fashion buyers/resellers flocked into the store, I think some of them are Chinese, since they kept talking on wechat and taking pics while shopping in boutique, but it seems the SA intend to keep the precious to these who speak French unfortunately.