This has been pretty hush-hush in Australia, sadly I don’t believe Dior is by any means the only luxury house profiteering from workers’ suffering.
Dior supplier in Italy under fire for labour exploitation
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I just noticed a vast number of h Rtw items are made in Italy. This includes coats over 10k. I have some sweaters that were made in France nearly a decade ago but now made in Italy. If labor is as cheap as it is now in Italy talk about huge profit margins.
After reading this post: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...italy-handbags-the-new-yorker-reports.990924/
I'm starting to question the entire European luxury industry. Chanel did it and Dior too. This must be just the tip of the iceberg.
I'm starting to question the entire European luxury industry. Chanel did it and Dior too. This must be just the tip of the iceberg.
There’s another thread that goes back to like 2006 here on tpf. So this has been going on for years. You know that rana plaza disaster where over 1000 garment workers died in Bangladesh? 80% were women making clothes for Prada Armani hm mango Zara primark etc. some corporations said they were not aware of local conditions. Sound familiar? There seems to be very little oversight with subcontractors. I will no longer buy Lvmh. This is not luxury. IMO We have been fooled and think it’s all about revenue; there’s so much greed. I stopped buying fast fashion long ago and will be sure to be careful about future luxury purchases. I also understand that Eastern Europe like Bulgaria and Romania have many low to mid range companies using workers from there. Also seen complaints about poor workers rights there. Some not even getting paid. Change is only possible if consumers and governments demand change. Luxury consumers these last couple decades have been fed lies. Many have been blissfully unaware and ignorant like myself.
Sad and angry to learn LVMH and another luxury brands are benefiting from exploitation and unethical supply chains. They have the resources and money to do better. I can't in good conscience accept products made through human suffering. I too have loved the storied history of Dior and its designers, but this certainly has been violated and it's hard to continue believing in luxury quality. It does shed light also on conglomerates like LVMH with its massive portfolio, which push ethical competitors out.
I just watched this BBC coverage of child labor in the perfume supply chain and am reminded of this thread.
After learning about Dior practices, what they really pay for making their bags, and watching
Tanner Leatherstein on YT evaluate Dior (and Chanel) handbags, I regret buying my two pre-owned Dior handbags and one pre-owned vintage Chanel handbag with every fiber of my being. I am thinking of selling two of them back to Fashionphile, but the loss is hard to stomach. Honestly, this situation has cured me of my love of all things luxury, especially handbags. From now on, I am buying leather handbags from respected artisans or just buying from Coach.
ETA: Every time I think about how impressed I was by the video of the Lady Dior being made by hand, I feel like an idiot for being such a sucker. Lady Dior was the handbag, I have always wanted and planned on buying new, not any more.
Tanner Leatherstein on YT evaluate Dior (and Chanel) handbags, I regret buying my two pre-owned Dior handbags and one pre-owned vintage Chanel handbag with every fiber of my being. I am thinking of selling two of them back to Fashionphile, but the loss is hard to stomach. Honestly, this situation has cured me of my love of all things luxury, especially handbags. From now on, I am buying leather handbags from respected artisans or just buying from Coach.
ETA: Every time I think about how impressed I was by the video of the Lady Dior being made by hand, I feel like an idiot for being such a sucker. Lady Dior was the handbag, I have always wanted and planned on buying new, not any more.
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This is all so horrifying to learn about LVMH brands that I used to assume were ethically producing high-quality products. I recently got into buying luxury jewelry and bought a ring from Bvlgari a few months ago. After doing some research, I’ve learned that Bvlgari is owned by LVMH. Do you think I can safely assume/trust that Bvlgari uses ethical practices to produce high quality jewelry?…or should I question their jewelry production practices and quality too because they’re owned by LVMH? I know Bvlgari is an old brand rooted in Italian heritage but the fact that LVMH owns them is now causing me concern.
I've said something about shady practices similar before in this forum a while back when it was brought up that Chanel (allegedly!) was not using leather but a composite leather. Nothing has significantly changed in the past decades despite the onslaught of PR campaigns, new laws, transparency reports (Good on You lmao), new fair trade organizations, "certifications", and "pacts". There are some brands that do it better of course, but it's hardly better. No one's hands are clean here.
And these companies are fully aware of the exploitation occurring and often invoke sub-contracting as an excuse to hide their hands behind. While there may be times when they are not aware, most times, they are, especially if they're quoted a low price whilst in the pursuit of the lowest-cost manufacturing location while trying to maintain their "Made in Italy" label. If the factory is quoting you a price that seems too good to be true, then exploitation is going to occur in the process.
What I find particular humorous of Dior is the feminism angle while this occurs.
And these companies are fully aware of the exploitation occurring and often invoke sub-contracting as an excuse to hide their hands behind. While there may be times when they are not aware, most times, they are, especially if they're quoted a low price whilst in the pursuit of the lowest-cost manufacturing location while trying to maintain their "Made in Italy" label. If the factory is quoting you a price that seems too good to be true, then exploitation is going to occur in the process.
What I find particular humorous of Dior is the feminism angle while this occurs.
Wow … I had no idea about Chanel allegedly using composite leather. Do you know when they might have started doing this? After the Lagerfeld years or earlier?
I am so fed up with "luxury" these days, when luxury is defined as "expensive **** that won't be produced properly let alone by respecting human and animal rights but who cares as long as the customer is stupid enough to pay big bucks".
Honestly, I start contemplating Primark, at least you know that the production is ****ty a f.
Honestly, I start contemplating Primark, at least you know that the production is ****ty a f.
That I'm not sure, I'm more a RTW and 2.55 person. Though I would have to assume it was of the later years of Lagerfeld. There was this thread a while back that had many revelations throughout, if you haven't checked it out yet.
Most of our bags aren't 100% leather, do we even care?
So, I've had a suspicion for awhile that our bags are going the way of "chemically enhanced". That suspicion was borne out of studying, at first, Chanel's coco handle, the rubbing on the edges to brown, and the plasticky feel. When the 19 came out, it was insanely obvious that the leather wasn't...
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Close to when he started. I have several bags dating from 1993-1996 and they have composite leather, but it was used (from what I've learned throughout the years) on the interior and not exterior of the bags. It was (or is?) used on seasonal pieces and not classic flaps. It's why a lot of the interior linings on Chanel vintage bags break down after time.
We have to boycott large corporations that abuse their power for profit in order for any real change to happen.
I’m going to keep using items that I own, but that’s about it. Ive always loved buying from local artisans and will continue to do so. I also no longer see a problem with buying and using fakes, buying from fast fashion, and getting custom pieces made. Mango makes 100% cotton tops for less than 40 dollars and I love them and enjoy them. Anything is better than a mere illusion of luxury.
Questions about the knowthechain reports:
1. Can we get individual brand level data for accuracy? Group level data tells us not much and makes it easy for consumers to assume that the problem is rampant and equally bad across the group, but most corporations are not run like an assembly line. It’s safe to assume that each brand is run differently.
2. Why is Chanel missing from recent reports?
I’m going to keep using items that I own, but that’s about it. Ive always loved buying from local artisans and will continue to do so. I also no longer see a problem with buying and using fakes, buying from fast fashion, and getting custom pieces made. Mango makes 100% cotton tops for less than 40 dollars and I love them and enjoy them. Anything is better than a mere illusion of luxury.
Questions about the knowthechain reports:
1. Can we get individual brand level data for accuracy? Group level data tells us not much and makes it easy for consumers to assume that the problem is rampant and equally bad across the group, but most corporations are not run like an assembly line. It’s safe to assume that each brand is run differently.
2. Why is Chanel missing from recent reports?
I still see serious issues with fakes and fakes fuel child labor industry and even worse worker conditions and fund terrorism and other criminal activities. There is even less oversight with fast fashion. Go look up rana plaza. You also still can’t compare quality. Boycotting won’t do anything.