Dior RTW

[xiaoxiao]

I can confirm that Dior HC has become intentionally more commercial/ wearable. They are trying to introduce RTW clients to consider Couture.

yeah hello “couture jeans” but I gotta say, it’s working. Compared to Chanel rtw Dior is a basement bargain price. For 1.8k euro I can get a skirt from Dior where in Chanel nowadays it’s barely a t-shirt (let alone jeans). It’s almost like chanel is intentionally shying away from middle class clients like me, whereas Dior welcomes my type.

 

[bagsofguiltypleasure]

yeah hello “couture jeans” but I gotta say, it’s working. Compared to Chanel rtw Dior is a basement bargain price. For 1.8k euro I can get a skirt from Dior where in Chanel nowadays it’s barely a t-shirt (let alone jeans). It’s almost like chanel is intentionally shying away from middle class clients like me, whereas Dior welcomes my type.

Totally agree with you on this. Dior’s pricing is more palatable, there is more certainty to access some popular RTW pieces by securing with a deposit. The Chanel game can be tiring since we are normal human beings who need to budget our splurges. They will just focus on the top 1% of the wealthy ppl. We mere mortals will just rely on ‘luck’ to spend thousands on something we really like..

 

[fibbi]

indeed re: rolling up the skirt def been there done that. And this!! “wannabe punk crossed with the preppy handbook” - no wonder it feels so familiar coz that was me!! I’m sure I will find some pieces here and there as we always do!

Yes rolling up skirt! Actually I still keep my high school uniform skirt ...i was dreaming one day I will still fit...

Re RTW more wearable. I just recently into Dior and I never imagine I would buy any designer RTW as I'm too chubby (and short 5"2 as well) to look well on any fashion. Why would I spend a bunch on clothing when I don't look good anyway...but I was wrong, Dior got me... the skirt looks flattering , the sweater has my size...seraiously...I don't know they even have my size. And everything still affordable...and now the collection starts to grow (slowly though). But of course, if I'm 20 years younger I will be more adventurous on clothing . Now I'm looking for more classical piece.

 

[Tasha1]

Compared to Chanel rtw Dior is a basement bargain price.

Let me disagree with you partially. One can't compare a Dior jacket with a Chanel jacket. Once I wanted to order a special jacket and a skirt from RTW ( can't find a pic), the price was €25 000, and another example, I really the look and was ready to place pre-order (@880, thank to your SA who gave me some information)


guess the price? about €15 000 for polyester with bling bling

I completely agree with

I can confirm that Dior HC has become intentionally more commercial/ wearable. They are trying to introduce RTW clients to consider Couture.

 

[xiaoxiao]

Totally agree with you on this. Dior’s pricing is more palatable, there is more certainty to access some popular RTW pieces by securing with a deposit. The Chanel game can be tiring since we are normal human beings who need to budget our splurges. They will just focus on the top 1% of the wealthy ppl. We mere mortals will just rely on ‘luck’ to spend thousands on something we really like..

right Right! I think Chanel rtw is truly beautiful sometimes as well, but with my eldest still young and me not in an office/ more formal environment, my rtw needs are so different now. I do intend to go back to Chanel jacket wearing when I am a big older, but right now dior dresses and skirts really suit my lifestyle. I was just discussing this with my girlfriend, who is a fan of both, that I think in many ways Chanel is the wife whereas Dior is the girlfriend (or Chanel husband, Dior boyfriend, just to be gender inclusive). you sort of need both, sometimes at the same time (if you are lucky lol), sometimes one at a time. either way they have their places, it’s just up to the wearer’s needs.

 

[xiaoxiao]

Let me disagree with you partially. One can't compare a Dior jacket with a Chanel jacket. Once I wanted to order a special jacket and a skirt from RTW ( can't find a pic), the price was €25 000, and another example, I really the look and was ready to place pre-order (@880, thank to your SA who gave me some information)
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guess the price? about €15 000 for polyester with bling bling

I completely agree with

wow That is mind-blowing. I guess I am just very good with picking out bargain pieces! The cotton dress this season was 4k euro whereas a normal cardigan from Chanel was similar price. In that particular comparison I thought Dior was a better bargain sort of speak…

I agree: for the same price (15k) I would rather have a Chanel jacket than a Dior bling bling polyester. But then for 15k I would rather get a birkin and rtw from Hermes. Did you end up going with Dior btw? My store didn’t get the 15k bling bling you mentioned…

 

[Brooklynite]

I haven't found Dior's pricing reasonable compared to other "basics" tbh. The most special for them is the bar jacket and you can feel the solid construction when putting on. Not many fashion brands use menswear technique (canvas etc.) to make jackets.

However, the skirts and dresses fit many people magically well and they are extremely flattering. Though basic in shape, they work well for the women, so if it's flattering to you and it works for your lifestyle, it's worth it.

 

[880]

I love women's Dior for it's beautifully cut cocktail dresses. The long pleated skirts that have been so popular tend to drown and overwhelm me in too much fabric. As much as I love the classic cocktail attire, I long for more variety in chic, fun and innovative daywear. I feel the men's line has been far more interesting and innovative in creating chic, fun casual wear. I wish they would create some pieces for ladies! Idk... it may just be that I am the only female in my house so I spend a lot more time in the men's boutique and know the lines fairly well. I think the menswear is often wonderful!

I totally agree with this. I wish some of the mens wear could be cut down to fit me.
@xiaoxiao, to your analogy, I think hermes is the spouse; chanel is the established mistress; and Dior is what the young side piece hopes to get (joking of course)

I think Dior prices are considerably less than chanel for skirts, tops, some dresses, and RTW; about the same price (a little higher) than Brunello; and for basics like sweaters and pants, considerably higher than Hermes RTW. At least for the things I choose.

bought a leather jacket (5700 USD) am thinking about a necklace but think it’s way overpriced for what it is (64K USD) (Tried neckalce on with my own Dior denim dress)
rejected a well priced for Dior 2600 USD pleated wax coated denim skirt (too much fabric; possibly the same drape and fit issue as @luckylove); a mini skirt; and a boxy jacket. Also rejected a taffeta dress (the waist was structured like the plaid skirt @TankerToad and like the UTS skirt that @jp824 tried on, and the short sleeves were slimmer than I wanted. Dresses that have a slip bug me bc MGC cuts her slips very narrowly even if the dress billows around them

Also, tried on, loved, a trench lined in burgundy oblique, (it was super flattering and belted almost looked like the classic Dior dress (made my waist vanish and had great lines) but I have too many trench coats that I don’t wear enough. im sorry I thought I took a pic, but cannot find it

@MissV, my SA didn’t seem to think your exact hooded piece would be repeated, but the trench I tried is the newest iteration if that helps. They are cut very differently but both beige/taupe trench like outerwear lined in burgundy oblique. My SA did not think the hooded piece you referenced would be flattering on shorter body types. So if height is an issue (like it is for me) so I would suggest trying it on IRL before deciding.

 

[Brooklynite]

I totally agree with this. I wish some of the mens wear could be cut down to fit me.
@xiaoxiao, to your analogy, I think hermes is the spouse; chanel is the established mistress; and Dior is what the young side piece hopes to get (joking of course)

I think Dior prices are considerably less than chanel for skirts, tops, some dresses, and RTW; about the same price (a little higher) than Brunello; and for basics like sweaters and pants, considerably higher than Hermes RTW. At least for the things I choose.

bought a leather jacket (5700 USD) am thinking about a necklace but think it’s way overpriced for what it is (64K USD) (Tried neckalce on with my own Dior denim dress)
rejected a well priced for Dior 2600 USD pleated wax coated denim skirt (too much fabric; possibly the same drape and fit issue as @luckylove); a mini skirt; and a boxy jacket. Also rejected a taffeta dress (the waist was structured like the plaid skirt @TankerToad and like the UTS skirt that @jp824 tried on, and the short sleeves were slimmer than I wanted. Dresses that have a slip bug me bc MGC cuts her slips very narrowly even if the dress billows around them

Also, tried on, loved, a trench lined in burgundy oblique, (it was super flattering and belted almost looked like the classic Dior dress (made my waist vanish and had great lines) but I have too many trench coats that I don’t wear enough. im sorry I thought I took a pic, but cannot find it

@MissV, my SA didn’t seem to think your exact hooded piece would be repeated, but the trench I tried is the newest iteration if that helps. They are cut very differently but both beige/taupe trench like outerwear lined in burgundy oblique. My SA did not think the hooded piece you referenced would be flattering on shorter body types. So if height is an issue (like it is for me) so I would suggest trying it on IRL before deciding.

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The dress in the last pic fits you perfectly. Super flattering. Which skirt is the skirt in the third picture? It seems to be a better length than the skorts I tried on (way too short than thought). Is it silk+wool?

After failing to secure the Chanel sock boots @TankerToad got, I got these Hermes boots. I really like the details:
(with Bar jacket and matching pants / jeans)

 

[tanya^luv^purse]

I totally agree with this. I wish some of the mens wear could be cut down to fit me.
@xiaoxiao, to your analogy, I think hermes is the spouse; chanel is the established mistress; and Dior is what the young side piece hopes to get (joking of course)

I think Dior prices are considerably less than chanel for skirts, tops, some dresses, and RTW; about the same price (a little higher) than Brunello; and for basics like sweaters and pants, considerably higher than Hermes RTW. At least for the things I choose.

bought a leather jacket (5700 USD) am thinking about a necklace but think it’s way overpriced for what it is (64K USD) (Tried neckalce on with my own Dior denim dress)
rejected a well priced for Dior 2600 USD pleated wax coated denim skirt (too much fabric; possibly the same drape and fit issue as @luckylove); a mini skirt; and a boxy jacket. Also rejected a taffeta dress (the waist was structured like the plaid skirt @TankerToad and like the UTS skirt that @jp824 tried on, and the short sleeves were slimmer than I wanted. Dresses that have a slip bug me bc MGC cuts her slips very narrowly even if the dress billows around them

Also, tried on, loved, a trench lined in burgundy oblique, (it was super flattering and belted almost looked like the classic Dior dress (made my waist vanish and had great lines) but I have too many trench coats that I don’t wear enough. im sorry I thought I took a pic, but cannot find it

@MissV, my SA didn’t seem to think your exact hooded piece would be repeated, but the trench I tried is the newest iteration if that helps. They are cut very differently but both beige/taupe trench like outerwear lined in burgundy oblique. My SA did not think the hooded piece you referenced would be flattering on shorter body types. So if height is an issue (like it is for me) so I would suggest trying it on IRL before deciding.

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I LOVE the leather jacket on you! what a great staple and looks like it fits like a glove - a leather glove !

 

[880]

The dress in the last pic fits you perfectly. Super flattering. Which skirt is the skirt in the third picture? It seems to be a better length than the skorts I tried on (way too short than thought). Is it silk+wool?

After failing to secure the Chanel sock boots @TankerToad got, I got these Hermes boots. I really like the details:
(with Bar jacket and matching pants / jeans)




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Thank you @Brooklynite and @tanya^luv^purse ! I love your boots! And the bar jacket and pants and jeans versatility!

The dress in my last pic is the denim dress size 42. It’s my favorite dress (one I came to late, after seeing denim on @xiaoxiao and @jp824), and I seem to recall, as @xiaoxiao mentioned, it was well priced for Dior and given cost per wear. my SA had to source it from bergdorfs for me, and it was the last one. It taught me a lesson to buy the basics first and early in the season and then treat sale as a source for fantasy or impulse pieces.

The skirt is the one with the muted finish CD center buckle (I dislike bright gold) that will carry over into 2022 (with jackets etc) I think it felt a bit longer than the skort; it felt about the same length as the Montaigne leather mini, but I’m not entirely sure. I didn’t get it bc for a day skirt, I prefer a few inches longer, but I was really on the fence about it. IMO fit for 30 Montaigne is relatively generous, as with the UTS; the two in one skirt; or pants, at a size 40. (I have a large waist — about 30 inches on a good day, and range in size in a Dior skirt or dress from a 38 (Elastic short hoodie dresses or elastic waistband skirts) to More usually a 42 in a fitted waistbanded dress (Denim, striped or twill dresses). Assuming I need to breath and eat and bend LOL

Note: i find Dior and chanel (where I’m a 40 boucle jacket) to be less generously sized than Hermes RTW where I’m in between a 38-40, or a 38 Brunello, if that helps anyone trying to figure out sizes remotely)

thank you so much, @Tasha1 for your kind words below! I love your taste! IMO it makes no sense to me that USA gets stuff sooner than you do. Also, fingers crossed you get your new duret soon !
hugs

 

[Tasha1]

@880

great photos with supreme looks.

I could use your looks as a manual book. I see perfect what would fit me and what wouldn't. And I get the knowledge of the coming collection. Dior delivers its collection to usa customers earlier than here, in Europe. The supply is also not great. ( Paris is not included)

I got these Hermes boots. I really like the details:

I tried them as well, no way because of my instep.

Did you end up going with Dior btw?

at the moment no, but it depends on the boutique policy and there poor stock. At least I can take a train to Paris when a new collection is launched.

 

[xiaoxiao]

the dress fits you SO well my dear!!! glad you managed to grab one. Some heavy string must have been pulled, from what I understood it was one of the most popular one (no wonder given the price point). you are rocking so many amazing pieces in this holiday season!

Thank you @Brooklynite and @tanya^luv^purse ! I love your boots! And the bar jacket and pants and jeans versatility!

The dress in my last pic is the denim dress size 42. It’s my favorite dress (one I came to late, after seeing denim on @xiaoxiao and @jp824), and I seem to recall, as @xiaoxiao mentioned, it was well priced for Dior and given cost per wear. my SA had to source it from bergdorfs for me, and it was the last one. It taught me a lesson to buy the basics first and early in the season and then treat sale as a source for fantasy or impulse pieces.

The skirt is the one with the muted finish CD center buckle (I dislike bright gold) that will carry over into 2022 (with jackets etc) I think it felt a bit longer than the skort; it felt about the same length as the Montaigne leather mini, but I’m not entirely sure. I didn’t get it bc for a day skirt, I prefer a few inches longer, but I was really on the fence about it. IMO fit for 30 Montaigne is relatively generous, as with the UTS; the two in one skirt; or pants, at a size 40. (I have a large waist — about 30 inches on a good day, and range in size in a Dior skirt or dress from a 38 (Elastic short hoodie dresses or elastic waistband skirts) to More usually a 42 in a fitted waistbanded dress (Denim, striped or twill dresses). Assuming I need to breath and eat and bend LOL

Note: i find Dior and chanel (where I’m a 40 boucle jacket) to be less generously sized than Hermes RTW where I’m in between a 38-40, or a 38 Brunello, if that helps anyone trying to figure out sizes remotely)

thank you so much, @Tasha1 for your kind words below! I love your taste! IMO it makes no sense to me that USA gets stuff sooner than you do. Also, fingers crossed you get your new duret soon !
hugs

 

[periogirl28]

@880 that last dress is fabulous. I can see why it is your fave and it flatters some of us here so well even with very different body types and heights.
Wishing everyone here a very Blessed Christmas. See you in 2022 with more Dior RTW!

 

[880]

Thank you @Tasha1, @xiaoxiao, @Brooklynite, @tanya^luv^purse, and @periogirl28 for your kind words!
and thank you @periogirl28 for starting the RTW threads! all of the gorgeous photos in this thread inspired me to go into dior boutique in the first place!
happy holidays all!