DAPRS : my choice for face contouring, fat graft with Dr Lee and BA with Dr Koo
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I agree, I don't think that other person can automatically assume it was a fake post. I had zygoma reduction with Dr Lee at DA and needed one side to be revised because one side looked good and flat but the other side based on the X-Ray looked as if it hadn't even been moved at all. I had to go to TL clinic after (see TL post for my story on that). Not happy after TL still as that side still looks more protruding but maybe this is more to do with my natural skull. I did have a good experience at DA regarding the whole process tbh (compared with the poor after care and swelling I got from zygoma reduction at TL), but I did have to revise it so I guess my experience at DA wasn't amazing.
At the end of the day you can't tell which posts are genuine and which are completely fabricated as most clinics have an entire team to lurk around these forums and write reviews dissing other clinics and promoting their own (they are ruthless!). You just have to go with your gut on which clinic you feel most comfortable with.
HI all,
I'm here to share my experience at banobagi with Dr. Hyeon-Taek Lee I did non-incision eyelid surgery and nose tip surgery. I came to know about banobagi through beauty blogger sunny and how well her surgeries turn out. because im naive i thought banobagi would be a good choice and simply went with it.
Long story short, banobagi is terrible im 3 months post op now and i think my surgeries look terrible. for you all who said banobagi takes a long time to reply to emails its true. even as for me who was a patient at their clinic, they never replied my emails and this was after my surgeries. they simply dont care about their patients and i feel like its all about them just wanting to pressure sell you into doing more procedures so they can earn more money.
I originally came to korea only wanting to do my eyelids but the doctor convinced me to do my nose tip too and now 3 months post op my eyelids looks similar however it is in a weird shape and have multiple creases and my nose looks pinched and awkward especially when i smile the tip becomes unnaturally pinched looking.
Another extremely important thing I want to mention is that i felt like my surgery was extremely rushed. My mum and I finished our surgeries with only 10-15 minute apart and we both had the same doctor and our surgery was scheduled after each other so either he did my mum's brow-poxy eyelid surgery in 10-15 minute or another doctor did my nose tip surgery or he's just extremely fast. Because I was kind of conscious when they were finishing up my nose tip surgery and I could not recognize the voices around me and I did not hear Dr. Lee's voice. But it could also be me being still foggy from the local anesthesia.
Also for those considering to go to docfinder, I would post my true and un-opinionated view of my experience with them. To be honest docfinder was kind of useless he didnt help me with my translation or bargaining or to show me around korea like they said they would. banobagi also did not offer any of those special treatment services they gave to those bloggers like the hair wash,going to the anti-swelling machine etc... basically those blogs post those bloggers post are not the true story. yes, it may be THEIR true story but they wont offer these kind of treatments for a normal foreigner doing plastic surgery at their clinic. So what docfinder did do is to book my hotel and the clinic and just to ferry me to and from the clinic. sometimes he doesnt personally do it but he just calls a taxi to pick and drop and me off at the clinic or get his driver or worker to ferry us. if you think about it you could easily just get a taxi to do this for you considering the cost of a taxi hire (not expensive) and his commission he gets from our surgeries. Additionally, we were late for our surgery at banobagi because Park shin's (founder of docfinder) worker came to pick us up late. Also I wished that Park shin would be more honest with me, as before my surgery at banobagi he told me that all his customers that went to banobagi was very happy with their results and then about 2 weeks after my nose tip surgery I contacted him asking whether people do go back to do revision surgery on their noses from banobagi and he said yes. In general everyone is just out to make money so be extremely careful.
So to wrap up, If i could rewind time, I would not do surgeries at Banobagi,I actually went into depression looking at myself in the mirror after my surgery and everyone said I looked better before or just refused to comment which is pretty straightforward they probably think I look weird.
I'm here to share my experience at banobagi with Dr. Hyeon-Taek Lee I did non-incision eyelid surgery and nose tip surgery. I came to know about banobagi through beauty blogger sunny and how well her surgeries turn out. because im naive i thought banobagi would be a good choice and simply went with it.
Long story short, banobagi is terrible im 3 months post op now and i think my surgeries look terrible. for you all who said banobagi takes a long time to reply to emails its true. even as for me who was a patient at their clinic, they never replied my emails and this was after my surgeries. they simply dont care about their patients and i feel like its all about them just wanting to pressure sell you into doing more procedures so they can earn more money.
I originally came to korea only wanting to do my eyelids but the doctor convinced me to do my nose tip too and now 3 months post op my eyelids looks similar however it is in a weird shape and have multiple creases and my nose looks pinched and awkward especially when i smile the tip becomes unnaturally pinched looking.
Another extremely important thing I want to mention is that i felt like my surgery was extremely rushed. My mum and I finished our surgeries with only 10-15 minute apart and we both had the same doctor and our surgery was scheduled after each other so either he did my mum's brow-poxy eyelid surgery in 10-15 minute or another doctor did my nose tip surgery or he's just extremely fast. Because I was kind of conscious when they were finishing up my nose tip surgery and I could not recognize the voices around me and I did not hear Dr. Lee's voice. But it could also be me being still foggy from the local anesthesia.
Also for those considering to go to docfinder, I would post my true and un-opinionated view of my experience with them. To be honest docfinder was kind of useless he didnt help me with my translation or bargaining or to show me around korea like they said they would. banobagi also did not offer any of those special treatment services they gave to those bloggers like the hair wash,going to the anti-swelling machine etc... basically those blogs post those bloggers post are not the true story. yes, it may be THEIR true story but they wont offer these kind of treatments for a normal foreigner doing plastic surgery at their clinic. So what docfinder did do is to book my hotel and the clinic and just to ferry me to and from the clinic. sometimes he doesnt personally do it but he just calls a taxi to pick and drop and me off at the clinic or get his driver or worker to ferry us. if you think about it you could easily just get a taxi to do this for you considering the cost of a taxi hire (not expensive) and his commission he gets from our surgeries. Additionally, we were late for our surgery at banobagi because Park shin's (founder of docfinder) worker came to pick us up late. Also I wished that Park shin would be more honest with me, as before my surgery at banobagi he told me that all his customers that went to banobagi was very happy with their results and then about 2 weeks after my nose tip surgery I contacted him asking whether people do go back to do revision surgery on their noses from banobagi and he said yes. In general everyone is just out to make money so be extremely careful.
So to wrap up, If i could rewind time, I would not do surgeries at Banobagi,I actually went into depression looking at myself in the mirror after my surgery and everyone said I looked better before or just refused to comment which is pretty straightforward they probably think I look weird.
lolipop32Swiss Thank you for your detail information. I also heard from my friends DA is good. But I still can't decide which clinic to go.Hi everyone,
I have known this forum for the last 8 years. Back then i was looking for a nose revision specialist already.
I have been seeing so many promoters putting fake reviews while doing research and new forms of promoters who have bee using different ways to promote the clinics they work for tooSmarter ways and less obvious
I feel so sorry for the girls who are new to PS and come here and been influencing by them and have botched jobs or not so good results... so therefore, even though i was lazy to write a review about the clinics i went to and wonder why all the girls who had amazing results didnt write about it either I decided to write about my experience this time in Seoul. Have been sharing photos with my kakao group chat already
I gotta thanks all the girls who I have been contacting for the last 1.5 year who never wrote reviews about their experiences but who had amazing results and were willing to share with me their photos so i can make my own decision too. Without seeing real patients, my choice would have been harder to make.
In Korea, they will apply soon a legislation that forbids promoting ps clinics with pictures, price events, etc because they have been a lot of issues related to this matter.
My friends who works for big clinics told me this. I don't go to big clinics because of swapping drs. Thats business reality and there is a chance that happens. I also avoid clinics that do too much marketing. A girl i met from this forum has had botched job from JW. I feel so sorry for her as after ps can be so depressing already!
So I thought i would write this review straight after surgery but didnt get the chance to do so even though i stayed in Seoul for 32 days.
I met some wonderful girls thanks to this forum they will also write a review about their experience too.
2 girls in my group went to DA I must say dr Lee made them very pretty
I have been exchanging with a dozen of nice girls who went to DA the last and I absolutely love their results but as we are talking about plastic surgery , i still planned to visit 24 clinics before making my decision up.
However, in reality i only made it to 20 clinics
My origin plan was to visit 5 clinics per day but in reality this is not possible especially for my case as i needed to see diffrent doctors in one clinic.
Moreover you need to wait for drs to finish their surgeries sometimes so I would strongly recommend 3 clinics per day if you need to see different drs like me.
First, I arrived at Incheon airport after 15 hours of trip ☹
Went to hire a simcard at olleh counter and got a sim card with unlimited data for kwn 44,000 for 30 days.
After 1 hour, the taxi drop me to my hotel. The fare was 95.000 Kwn.
Anyways, I started with 2 hours of delay consutaltion with DAPRS and my cousin came with me.
The clinic is located near Paris Baguette at Sinnonhyeon Station, exit 6.
I met Katie, their english translator for the firt time.She was nice and very professionnal. She was not very talkative on Kakao but very informative. Not in a too friendly way nor fake and tell you a lot of things. She is very cute but i think she is all natural haha
The clinic is very busy for a mid sized clinic for 3 floors. Some chinese customers, thai, even a very handsome european guy.
Katie took me to take pictures first before the consultations with dr for face and breast and then CT Scan. (my advice here is to buy the ct scan from the first clinic you go to or else you would do it again and again in other clinics. I learned that but on the second day only. April 31 didnt let me buy it from them though even I paid
80 000 Kwn for it but Jewelry clinic did).
I met Dr Koo first, the breast sepcialist. He is board certified surgeon
I checked through www.prskorea.com and he is board certified surgeon.
My cousin was with me, Katie asked if she can come with me during consultations.
It would be too long to tell you in details but he was the only dr with the dr in idea clinic to point out about my protruding bones on the upper right breast, which will limits the size of the implant. One dr in Paris and Geneva did told me that already by the way but i didnt want to go for round shapes implants back then.
After an hour of consultation with Dr Koo, went throught my list of questions, dr Koo understood what i was asking for but answered in Korean. Not sure if it was because my cousin was there or not. It wasnt a rush consultation, he went straight to the point and was pleasant but distant korean styleAt that time, i didnt know he would be the only one who would point out that protruding « issue » for my breast. But i only visiited 20 other clinics and maybe i should have visited me. There are around 4000 surgeons in Korea, and around 1000 are board certified surgeons. You have plenty of choices to choose your own surgeon.
Then I got to meet Dr Lee. I came to Korea to do eyes, nose revision, zygoma, angularplasty.
I was excited to see him as i was so impressed by his works on the girls on forum and one in particular, she is from Switzerland and shared with my kakao group chat all her experience in details with DAPRS. She looks drop dead gorgeous now !!!!!
So i prepared some words in korean to tell him in person, and i made eveyrone laugh when i said it out loud. I think my pronouciation not very good. Haha
He checked my ct scan and began with this : « I must admit that your nose is really well done, i dont recommend you touch it. »
I was like what ??? but my nose is ugly cant you do anything about it ?
Dr lee said no, it is not ugly. It s well done inside and outside ☹
OK he pursued with my eyes. He said he thinks my eyes are pretty ☹ I wanted to have those big eyes Dr lee makes to my friends so I asked him what if i begged you to do something about it ? I dont like this and that then he said, sorry i wont do anything to your eyes nor nose.
Dont need to mention how much i hated him at that time. Lol
But it made my cousin so happy that she yelled out loud how much she likes Dr Lee. My cousin is korean, believe it nor not, never done plastic surgery and told me i shouldnt do anything to my eyes or nose. But im quite stubborn and I left DA thinking well i will find a dr who can do my eyes and nose together with my fc.
But Dr lee recommended me zygoma reduction like the other 19 clinics lol
And angularplasty and about my chin, he said he would like to shave it a bit as i was quite reluctant when he talks about t-oesteotomy. Didnt want to have any screws on my face !
Both consultations were very pleasant. I heard some that Dr lee can be very distant, arrogant and heard that he suggested too many procedures to some patients. As for my experience, it was not like that and he is quite humble and make you feel at ease. We spent another hour in consultation with my cousin, Katie and I. Dr lee speaks great english but didnt speak in english the whole time wiht me. My friend is a dentist and she booked with him straight away, and they spoke in english the whole time together. She said they talk a lot and he used a lot of techincal words
Dr lee answered all my questions and god knows i have a lot to ask all the drs and both Dr lee and Dr Koo showed me a lot of patience and respect. My friends said that it was because i was with my cousin but my 2 friends who went there had the same experience and they speak english only.
To be honest, Dr lee and Dr Koo totally understood what i wanted and seemed to know exactly how they are going to make me a better me.
I followed with other visits to other clinics. In total, i visisted 20 for nose, face contouring, liposuccsion, BA, FG.
I spent 2 weeks in consultations before I booked with DAPRS. I ended up doing fc, this includes zygoma reduction, angloplasty, genioplasty, full face fat graft and Breast augmentation with tear drop implants.
Note that I only paid DA for shaving a bit the chin to make it less wide. And Dr lee asked me just before surgery what did i think about t-oesteotomy as he thinks this would be the best method for me, therefore having screws to fix it.
I told him i trusted him and let him do what was the best for me ( was thinking should i go back and pay for the extra screws and this method now or after surgery haha). So i said i leave it up to you to dr Lee. He said, no. Your opinon matters to me. I want to know what you think about it. (I knew a girl from last year who didnt want to do genioplasty after zygoma and jaw reduction now coming back in July to have genioplasty in the end, so i didnt want to have to come back just for that). I told him i was ok with that if he thinks it will look better.
It would be too long of a story to write about all my 19 other consultations and I felt bad last time i wrote sthg about Dr Kwon at Teuim clinic. It is not because my friends in ps business laugh at him and that I found all his pictures ugly that some of you will not like him
so this time around, i wont bad mouth about any clinics. There are 3 top clinics i liked and went to 3 consultations. Some clinics like April 31 does not allow you to come and see dr more than once though Brian was nice to say i would have been able to see dr a second time. I did not end up going there, too much sales procedures for me
And my 4th one was with DA and now im post op one month and 2 weeks and one day and i dont regret my choice.
wow I am so sorry to hear about your experience!!!
I am atm choosing between TL and DA for vline and cheekbone. Maybe I should reconsider both of them........
Would you say one is slightly better than the other?
Thanks
Hey. I went back to have jaw surgery at everm which did an amazing job. I recommend them if you ever plan to do jaw surgery. I don't know how they are doing zygoma though. I also at the same time went to a see Dr Lee at DA and asked if he could revise the right side zygoma and make it more pushed in like the left. He said to my the assymetry was due to the skull and not the actual zygoma. I guess I had an assymetrical skull to start off with.
Despite all this I still feel Dr Lee at DA is better. I went back to Korea to Go to TL and get zygoma revision on this right side but tbh I saw no difference. Obviously I hadn't told dr Lee at DA that I had already revised the right side zygoma. But I have heard reviews of people saying TL are good for jaw shaving v line but not for zygoma. I would still recommend dr Lee at DA cos he is a good surgeon and a very nice guy.
Plus the post op after care at TL was absolutely ****!!
Despite all this I still feel Dr Lee at DA is better. I went back to Korea to Go to TL and get zygoma revision on this right side but tbh I saw no difference. Obviously I hadn't told dr Lee at DA that I had already revised the right side zygoma. But I have heard reviews of people saying TL are good for jaw shaving v line but not for zygoma. I would still recommend dr Lee at DA cos he is a good surgeon and a very nice guy.
Plus the post op after care at TL was absolutely ****!!
Hey! ^^ Which jaw surgery did you do at EverM, V line or double jaw? Good to hear it went well
I'm doing V line and zygoma this autumn. Thinking about Dr Lee at DA. Can you ask them to check at the consultation X ray if you have an asymmetrical skull? I'm not sure if I have one now. I want him because he's good but I can't afford to come back for revisions
Hey! ^^ Which jaw surgery did you do at EverM, V line or double jaw? Good to hear it went well
I'm doing V line and zygoma this autumn. Thinking about Dr Lee at DA. Can you ask them to check at the consultation X ray if you have an asymmetrical skull? I'm not sure if I have one now. I want him because he's good but I can't afford to come back for revisions
I did double jaw surgery. I had already done Vline before in other clinics so he just did a slight shaving of the mandible to help the asymmetry. I think he did do a good job on the zygoma, but I just have an assymetrical skull which he showed me on the scan.
Thanks. Did you go for a dolly look or natural? I've got a square jaw but I want a dolly face like the girls have in the after photos. I don't know if it's possible though. I'm really looking for a clinic that does dolly faces, do you think Dr Lee could?
http://en.daprs.com/htm/community_selca.php?cate=01
I'm looking at everM too, also maybe the face dental? But I'm cautious because im not sure if their focus is on cosmetics purposes....
Those were my two choices. But in the end I chose everm based on good reviews. And I am glad I did. It was the best decision. My case was a particularly difficult case. If interested to know why you can message me privately because I don't want to discuss it in public, but they did an excellent job. They are more expensive than others I think. But definately worth it
Hey lolipop32Swiss -Hi everyone,
I have known this forum for the last 8 years. Back then i was looking for a nose revision specialist already.
I have been seeing so many promoters putting fake reviews while doing research and new forms of promoters who have bee using different ways to promote the clinics they work for too
I feel so sorry for the girls who are new to PS and come here and been influencing by them and have botched jobs or not so good results... so therefore, even though i was lazy to write a review about the clinics i went to and wonder why all the girls who had amazing results didnt write about it either I decided to write about my experience this time in Seoul. Have been sharing photos with my kakao group chat already
I gotta thanks all the girls who I have been contacting for the last 1.5 year who never wrote reviews about their experiences but who had amazing results and were willing to share with me their photos so i can make my own decision too. Without seeing real patients, my choice would have been harder to make.
In Korea, they will apply soon a legislation that forbids promoting ps clinics with pictures, price events, etc because they have been a lot of issues related to this matter.
My friends who works for big clinics told me this. I don't go to big clinics because of swapping drs. Thats business reality and there is a chance that happens. I also avoid clinics that do too much marketing. A girl i met from this forum has had botched job from JW. I feel so sorry for her as after ps can be so depressing already!
So I thought i would write this review straight after surgery but didnt get the chance to do so even though i stayed in Seoul for 32 days.
I met some wonderful girls thanks to this forum they will also write a review about their experience too.
2 girls in my group went to DA I must say dr Lee made them very pretty
I have been exchanging with a dozen of nice girls who went to DA the last and I absolutely love their results but as we are talking about plastic surgery , i still planned to visit 24 clinics before making my decision up.
However, in reality i only made it to 20 clinics
My origin plan was to visit 5 clinics per day but in reality this is not possible especially for my case as i needed to see diffrent doctors in one clinic.
Moreover you need to wait for drs to finish their surgeries sometimes so I would strongly recommend 3 clinics per day if you need to see different drs like me.
First, I arrived at Incheon airport after 15 hours of trip ☹
Went to hire a simcard at olleh counter and got a sim card with unlimited data for kwn 44,000 for 30 days.
After 1 hour, the taxi drop me to my hotel. The fare was 95.000 Kwn.
Anyways, I started with 2 hours of delay consutaltion with DAPRS and my cousin came with me.
The clinic is located near Paris Baguette at Sinnonhyeon Station, exit 6.
I met Katie, their english translator for the firt time.She was nice and very professionnal. She was not very talkative on Kakao but very informative. Not in a too friendly way nor fake and tell you a lot of things. She is very cute but i think she is all natural haha
The clinic is very busy for a mid sized clinic for 3 floors. Some chinese customers, thai, even a very handsome european guy.
Katie took me to take pictures first before the consultations with dr for face and breast and then CT Scan. (my advice here is to buy the ct scan from the first clinic you go to or else you would do it again and again in other clinics. I learned that but on the second day only. April 31 didnt let me buy it from them though even I paid
80 000 Kwn for it but Jewelry clinic did).
I met Dr Koo first, the breast sepcialist. He is board certified surgeon
I checked through www.prskorea.com and he is board certified surgeon.
My cousin was with me, Katie asked if she can come with me during consultations.
It would be too long to tell you in details but he was the only dr with the dr in idea clinic to point out about my protruding bones on the upper right breast, which will limits the size of the implant. One dr in Paris and Geneva did told me that already by the way but i didnt want to go for round shapes implants back then.
After an hour of consultation with Dr Koo, went throught my list of questions, dr Koo understood what i was asking for but answered in Korean. Not sure if it was because my cousin was there or not. It wasnt a rush consultation, he went straight to the point and was pleasant but distant korean style
Then I got to meet Dr Lee. I came to Korea to do eyes, nose revision, zygoma, angularplasty.
I was excited to see him as i was so impressed by his works on the girls on forum and one in particular, she is from Switzerland and shared with my kakao group chat all her experience in details with DAPRS. She looks drop dead gorgeous now !!!!!
So i prepared some words in korean to tell him in person, and i made eveyrone laugh when i said it out loud. I think my pronouciation not very good. Haha
He checked my ct scan and began with this : « I must admit that your nose is really well done, i dont recommend you touch it. »
I was like what ??? but my nose is ugly cant you do anything about it ?
Dr lee said no, it is not ugly. It s well done inside and outside ☹
OK he pursued with my eyes. He said he thinks my eyes are pretty ☹ I wanted to have those big eyes Dr lee makes to my friends so I asked him what if i begged you to do something about it ? I dont like this and that then he said, sorry i wont do anything to your eyes nor nose.
Dont need to mention how much i hated him at that time. Lol
But it made my cousin so happy that she yelled out loud how much she likes Dr Lee. My cousin is korean, believe it nor not, never done plastic surgery and told me i shouldnt do anything to my eyes or nose. But im quite stubborn and I left DA thinking well i will find a dr who can do my eyes and nose together with my fc.
But Dr lee recommended me zygoma reduction like the other 19 clinics lol
And angularplasty and about my chin, he said he would like to shave it a bit as i was quite reluctant when he talks about t-oesteotomy. Didnt want to have any screws on my face !
Both consultations were very pleasant. I heard some that Dr lee can be very distant, arrogant and heard that he suggested too many procedures to some patients. As for my experience, it was not like that and he is quite humble and make you feel at ease. We spent another hour in consultation with my cousin, Katie and I. Dr lee speaks great english but didnt speak in english the whole time wiht me. My friend is a dentist and she booked with him straight away, and they spoke in english the whole time together. She said they talk a lot and he used a lot of techincal words
Dr lee answered all my questions and god knows i have a lot to ask all the drs and both Dr lee and Dr Koo showed me a lot of patience and respect. My friends said that it was because i was with my cousin but my 2 friends who went there had the same experience and they speak english only.
To be honest, Dr lee and Dr Koo totally understood what i wanted and seemed to know exactly how they are going to make me a better me.
I followed with other visits to other clinics. In total, i visisted 20 for nose, face contouring, liposuccsion, BA, FG.
I spent 2 weeks in consultations before I booked with DAPRS. I ended up doing fc, this includes zygoma reduction, angloplasty, genioplasty, full face fat graft and Breast augmentation with tear drop implants.
Note that I only paid DA for shaving a bit the chin to make it less wide. And Dr lee asked me just before surgery what did i think about t-oesteotomy as he thinks this would be the best method for me, therefore having screws to fix it.
I told him i trusted him and let him do what was the best for me ( was thinking should i go back and pay for the extra screws and this method now or after surgery haha). So i said i leave it up to you to dr Lee. He said, no. Your opinon matters to me. I want to know what you think about it. (I knew a girl from last year who didnt want to do genioplasty after zygoma and jaw reduction now coming back in July to have genioplasty in the end, so i didnt want to have to come back just for that). I told him i was ok with that if he thinks it will look better.
It would be too long of a story to write about all my 19 other consultations and I felt bad last time i wrote sthg about Dr Kwon at Teuim clinic. It is not because my friends in ps business laugh at him and that I found all his pictures ugly that some of you will not like him
so this time around, i wont bad mouth about any clinics. There are 3 top clinics i liked and went to 3 consultations. Some clinics like April 31 does not allow you to come and see dr more than once though Brian was nice to say i would have been able to see dr a second time. I did not end up going there, too much sales procedures for me
And my 4th one was with DA and now im post op one month and 2 weeks and one day and i dont regret my choice.
Trend is on my shortlist, could I speak to you about your experience? I tried adding you on kakao without success. Would you mind adding me: smokococo
Tbh Numi I actually think your nose is quite pretty
Now that you've pointed out the nostril height difference I see it, but had you not said anything I doubt I would have noticed it.So glad I have found this thread about FC... Lollipop your face looks beautiful, your chin was a bit too sharp at first, but I think it may be the swelling of your jaws, your latest picture shows your v line is very natural and very beautiful. I love your nose too!!! Thanks for sharing!
woow! you look sooo pretty
thanks for sharing gives me more confidence to go to DA