These pair are samples that didn't get the manufacture phase. they might appear in this year's sample sell, if they didn't get sold out internally. You can say these are fake coz they are not in the category book. and I will be more careful when I select my stuff, since I know more about what is fake or authentic according to you guys. After these days observation, I figured the general "authentication rules", 1. ship from outside of US is fake, 2. if the price too low is fake. 3. if the seller has too much inventory is fake. but some bags to me are definitely real, there are many bigger sellers have more inventory and get a better price than me. You overestimate the faking ability of the small factories. Some techniques require special machines that small factories couldn't afford. and the hardware are hard to fake. and 70% of the shoes from vary brands, such as T, M, P, PL. They all come from the same factory. And each time when they place orders, there will always have some bags or shoes couldn't pass the inspection, been put into the "defect" category. The defect could be a pen mark, a paint on the hardware that could be easily removed, wrong assembling, missing parts, a thread that stick between pieces could be removed. these defect goods will not have tag/dustbag/box. before TB still sell them and pay for the goods. Now, they are selling to the public by vary sellers. You can say these are fake or...I don't know, since you have different standard. I'm not going to reply anymore in here as a seller, but I'm still going to post as a buyer, since I like to buy stuff too,

anyway, have a great weekend.