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Thank you for your reply and give me a chance to clean myself. Here are some photos of the leather base on different lightings, you can see the differences.the first one is indoor without any additional lightings, second is a back light with side light, and the third one is what will happen if I use HDR, fourth is facing to sunlight. They all looks really different. View attachment 2274761View attachment 2274762View attachment 2274763View attachment 2274764
From my experience, the best way to authenticate a bag is not base on the materials. Coz even Tory Burch says saffiano leather is Italian leather, they still will manufacture them in China, it might be a Italian technology, but they are not going to import the leather from Italy and ship to China to make bags. Think about how many bag they are selling, even if they kill all the cows in Italy still won't satisfy the huge demands.and if ppl want to fake a bag, leather is the easiest thing to fake. And the difference between fake and real will base on 'how the make the bag'. Then it will come to hardware, stitches, details. But since Tory Burch is losing control of their quality of the products. It's hard to authenticate on a bag base on those information. Im not sure about Amanda, the last time I hold a Amanda in hand was in the winter, so not sure about the quality and the changes now. But the new Reva is really falling, some shoes the shape are twisted, and the stitches are thinner than before too. And they are constantly changing their designs, which make it harder to authenticate them...I mean, as a seller, I'm not the best person to say 'how to authenticate', but since i have more chances to touch more Tory Burch products. I just want to share my experience too. And I do carefully scan all my items. And I accept returns no matter what is the reason, it's hard to authenticate a Tory Burch bag, and women are hard to please, so I'm not going to give a hard time to my buyer or myself.
close up and clearly picture can help most . check 3, 4, 6 pictures. 3rd picture close up picture can find saffiano leather low quality with rough saffiano texture. 4rd picture can see the handle hook with hardware, The leather in the hook is thinner, the stitching is loser and poor finished. real one the stitching is stronger. 6rd picture full body view , it can see the sense, this bag doesn't right to authentic.
 
I got a PM from a member saying they were returning the bag for the reasons listed. I asked them to post the bag with pics here and did not see the post. I deleted the message but it was from a week or two ago. The second bag was deemed fake because of the leather. The pics make it look rough and bumpy. Saffiano is crosshatch but smooth. Why don't you post the closeup pics here so we can settle this?

Just a general observation, TB quality is really falling off. There are some bags from last season, particularly the Amanda line that would be harder to authenticate because the quality is awful. There were a ton of turquoise Amanda bags at the recent sample sale with mixed grain leather that were not selling. Front of the bag was flat leather but the back and bottom were pebbled leather. If I didn't see these and hold them myself at the ss I would say they were fake. They were selling for $295.

Eta: my hardware note was for all bags up to Fall 2012.
checking out those link auction, this is for real tory burch saffiano leather, doesn't matter the light,zoom in for saffiano leather. that is what I said the texture smooth or rough. we can see from the picture.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Authent...222?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cd35c63e6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-T...096?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2329d6e340
 
checking out those link auction, this is for real tory burch saffiano leather, doesn't matter the light,zoom in for saffiano leather. that is what I said the texture smooth or rough. we can see from the picture.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Authent...222?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cd35c63e6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-T...096?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2329d6e340

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May I ask you how can't you tell a leather is thin or thick by photo? The bag is standing by itself in a good shape, and you say the leather is to thin? and when you say a smooth do you mean oily? Check the photos, it's a black Tory Burch from this winter. It's smooth and oily, but it's not as sturdy as 2012 version
 
checking out those link auction, this is for real tory burch saffiano leather, doesn't matter the light,zoom in for saffiano leather. that is what I said the texture smooth or rough. we can see from the picture.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Authent...222?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cd35c63e6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-T...096?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2329d6e340

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so recording to you, the red one has rich stitches, and the blue one has poor stitches, could you tell me the difference? do you know the thread difference? The space difference? What make the stitches so different?
and $575 is 'maximum suggest retail price', and Tory Burch web was just selling orange Robinsons for $300 in the Independence Day. And of course they are not going to lose money on sells, so just think about it, how much a bag will cost to manufacture it? Without all the extra fees, how much a bag will cost?
 
close up and clearly picture can help most . check 3, 4, 6 pictures. 3rd picture close up picture can find saffiano leather low quality with rough saffiano texture. 4rd picture can see the handle hook with hardware, The leather in the hook is thinner, the stitching is loser and poor finished. real one the stitching is stronger. 6rd picture full body view , it can see the sense, this bag doesn't right to authentic.

I'm done arguing here, the stitches on the bag is like the photo, when you say 'lose and poor finished' I don't know where to look at, and there do have fake Tory Burch handbags, but mine are definitely real, which I know you don't believe. But I'm not going to expose all the details in manufacture area. so you can say its poor quality, poor stitches, poor leather, whatever. Enjoy!
 
This is why I say authenticating Robinsons is so hard. Saffiano leather that is poorer quality is easier to duplicate. Take a look at all of the MK fakes flooding eBay. Honestly, some of these bags can only be authenticated definitively by seeing them in person. The weight of the bags and wallets give it away as the fakes tend to be significantly lighter.

I've attached a pic of my wallet in Tahitian Turquoise that I bought in May. The leather texture matches the black and red bags. It is the navy bag that is standing out. At this point it is really hard to tell. I can't say whether it is fake or real. The only thing raising a red flag for me is the leather. Hardware and finishing look fine to me.

shopaholic_yuki - what is the official color of the blue bag? If you have any receipts or tags I would post them in the auction to put your buyer at ease and help defend with any Paypal claims.

I've seen Robinson Double Zip go as low as around $280 but they all have been seasonal colors. I don't really follow TB prices though as they tend to be all over the place.
 

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I usually hang out in LV forum, so I am not sure what the rules are here for authentication, but I have just bought one Tory Burch purse in Nordstrom Rack and was wondering whether you can authenticate it for me (price was too good.) The stitching of the hem on the back (one of the close up pic) was a bit cricket. I do not have the actual link (since it was not bought from ebay) only pictures.
 

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I usually hang out in LV forum, so I am not sure what the rules are here for authentication, but I have just bought one Tory Burch purse in Nordstrom Rack and was wondering whether you can authenticate it for me (price was too good.) The stitching of the hem on the back (one of the close up pic) was a bit cricket. I do not have the actual link (since it was not bought from ebay) only pictures.

is there a tag? what is the color? Looks like Strawberry to me. does the bag have feet?
 
Yes, it has feet and the only tag I found is the plastic one that says "Made in China." And you are correct, it is Strawberry color. What bothers me is the cricket stitching (or adding on the hem.) I am unsure whether it is normal for Tory. Thank you! Here are some additional pics:
 

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Yes, it has feet and the only tag I found is the plastic one that says "Made in China." And you are correct, it is Strawberry color. What bothers me is the cricket stitching (or adding on the hem.) I am unsure whether it is normal for Tory. Thank you! Here are some additional pics:

It's authentic. TB has numerous QC issues lately among them crooked stitching, uneven finishing and faulty hardware. We have a thread in the forum discussing this. Take a peek if you can. Enjoy your bag.
 
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so recording to you, the red one has rich stitches, and the blue one has poor stitches, could you tell me the difference? do you know the thread difference? The space difference? What make the stitches so different?
and $575 is 'maximum suggest retail price', and Tory Burch web was just selling orange Robinsons for $300 in the Independence Day. And of course they are not going to lose money on sells, so just think about it, how much a bag will cost to manufacture it? Without all the extra fees, how much a bag will cost?
looks similar, but to me, I positive that the Robinson double zip blue bag post here is not authentic, for most of expert who has experienced they can tell for authentic saffiano leather.

In two picture, the red one, the saffiano little drop dot in the texture, the dot drop in the texture is smooth, mellow and full. the little dot is very small. the blue one , it is rough, it reflex light obviously , why? there is blend leather. it mixed plastic or other, different level of leather. real good leather is different when reflex.it has shallow, it is not bright like that. yes those is very detail , only expert can tell. The manufacture press the leather make the texture, so become saffiano leather . The fake one, the texture, the little dot drop, it is doubel size bigger because leather is hard, the quality is not smooth. this is why they need to press harder to make the trace deep and the drop bigger.

the little drop texture in blue Robinson double size is bigger . the edge in the blue is weak. That is actually very obviously .



If new to toryburch bag , suggest that seller learn and confirm it is authentic bag then sell the bag. your supplier can fool your around.

for the blue wallet, the leather is rich, the texture trace is smooth.
 
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I usually hang out in LV forum, so I am not sure what the rules are here for authentication, but I have just bought one Tory Burch purse in Nordstrom Rack and was wondering whether you can authenticate it for me (price was too good.) The stitching of the hem on the back (one of the close up pic) was a bit cricket. I do not have the actual link (since it was not bought from ebay) only pictures.
it is authentic.leather can tell smooth soft by picture, the detail looks great.
 
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May I ask you how can't you tell a leather is thin or thick by photo? The bag is standing by itself in a good shape, and you say the leather is to thin? and when you say a smooth do you mean oily? Check the photos, it's a black Tory Burch from this winter. It's smooth and oily, but it's not as sturdy as 2012 version
for this black, the first picture ,3 rd picture looks good. 2 and 4rd picture looks not good. the "white line" can see it, it because leather is not rich, in second level.

I am done with authenticate for this , that is obviously fake one.

I hope the information help ladies. and seller need to be carefully know the bag before you sell.
 
for this black, the first picture ,3 rd picture looks good. 2 and 4rd picture looks not good. the "white line" can see it, it because leather is not rich, in second level.

I am done with authenticate for this , that is obviously fake one.

I hope the information help ladies. and seller need to be carefully know the bag before you sell.

So may I ask you, if you have any knowledge about the process of making leather, all the textures that not belong to the leather itself are paints, which is one form of plastic. and only second layer leather or damaged first layer leather will be processed in that way. Generally speaking, all Robinsons are using second layer leathers.
I'm new selling on Ebay, but I'm working in the fashion industry for over 5 years. I wonder who authorize you to authenticate stuff, what's your qualification? What makes you an expert to authenticate bags? If you are only buyer and volunteer, how many bags do you own?
and since Tory Burch changes their leather every season, do you know all the leathers they are using on Robinsons? Usually I respect what authenticator says on purseforum. But since Toryburchlove you are newly registered in June 2013, with not many posts but doing authentication for all the bags, please show me your qualification, then I will trust the words you said.

to harlem_cutie, I respect your opinion, and I'm sure you only authenticate the bags you are familiar with, but for the buyers' benefits, and for sellers' sake, please know your people who are doing the job. Otherwise it might bring serious problems to the forum.
 
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