Tory Burch **CLOSED** Authenticate This TORY BURCH
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Hi harlem_cutie, sorry my post seems aggressive. Thank you for chiming in. Unfortunately, as much of a headache as refunds are eBay is pretty indiscriminate about what accounts they close. Regardless of how hard a seller tries to ensure that a bag is legit counterfeits can still sneak in or even worse, they could get their account closed over a bag that is actually legit and lose thousand upon thousands of dollars.I don't object to other users providing their opinions but suggesting that a seller should be reported over a photo-based authentication by someone with no credentials is much much worse...criminally worse. It is slander in the purest sense and borders on libel. Toryburchlove has been pretty aggressive in her posts, even following up to check that other users have reported sellers. If she's going to play the Internet vigilante and go that far she needs to prove her qualifications or accept responsibility for her actions.
Also I didn't say Midley is now responsible, just that under COICA they could be, unless they changed COICA. As it is I don't think it's law yet.
Also I didn't say Midley is now responsible, just that under COICA they could be, unless they changed COICA. As it is I don't think it's law yet.
thanks for the explanation. We are all pretty helpful here so when you come out the gate bringing up a lawsuit it put me on edge. All of the authenticators on tPF are volunteers and no one's word should be taken as gospel. Second opinions are always welcome. I don't say something is fake unless I am 100% sure. I'm sure others are the same way.
It seems that counterfeiters tend to prevail over legit sellers far more than we think, however, if an item is deemed fake then we should report it as it prevents other buyers from getting scammed, particularly international buyers as it seems eBay has very little protection for non-U.S. buyers.
toryburchlove deemed the seller as having fakes a few posts above yours. I think this bag is fake as well because the engraving is poor and the seams aren't lining up.
There are some detail photos of my Bag
This is tag
this is fake. Aside from the obviously incorrect tag, this isn't saffiano leather. The grain is all wrong, the engraving is poor, and the laser cut overlay is not cut properly. In your first set of pics it shows the overlay not lining up properly. If you purchased this on Ebay or anywhere on the internet could you please provide a link? Thanks!
I believe I know how to inspect tory burch handbag, every of my opinion is 99.99% sure I use to be a expert buyer for brand handbag special Tory Burch handbag.
I am here to share the tips help some buyers, but they do not have to take the trips. if it is real then I will say real, if fake then I will share my opinion , and included harlem_cutie. there was a post asked authenticate for Robinson middy satchel , it is obviously fake, it was a good fake but can tell from the poor cheap saffiano leather immediately , but you asked many detail picture and you still wasnot sure gave the buyer a answer. Saffiano collection handbag can inspect from the leather right away. and you said michell tote only one version lining so you authenticate it was fake, u can go to http://www.toryburch.jp, there is other version for the lining. I didnot post any common until now . you said snake wallet is common fake but I think it was real .
some handbag is obviously fake I help point it out. if obviously fake then I will report it to eBay. the link I asked people help report because it was 100% fake, but title said " 100 % authentic ", and it is absolute 100% fake. I watched the brand new double zip tote sold at $210, $180. Brand new tory burch double zip tote original $595 sold just $180?! still has innocent buyers waste over $200. here many buyer bought fake tory burch handbag but no-body tell them. how I can authenticate them, from the leather, my buy experience, I got rip off many time and I learned how to inspected . I sometime check this site and view buyer asked help authenticated. I knew the answer but did not really post it. recently I have time off so I tried to help it out.
people worry about they lost their eBay store, then sell real stuff. eBay encourage buyer report if we saw it is a suspiciously counterfeit goods. I reported it when I am 100% sure it is fake. I won't report or comment " fake" if the handbag is real. I said that because it is 100% sure absolutely fake to me.
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hiThere are some detail photos of my Bag
This is tag
yes to me it is absolutely fake , the tag was the wrong tag. style number, item name not matching .
the tag show the item shall be this bag
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Tory-Bu...766?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item53f99e87a6
but your handbag is kelsey . and the saffiano leather is low grade, no shape.
I have the same confusion, I'm a seller on ebay also a handbag designer/maker. Seems authenticators are pretty subjective. I personally experienced one authenticator give 2 totally different opinion on one bag. one is label good, hardware good, stitches good. and when I resell the same thing then the same authenticator say it's not real, the leather is not good, the stitches are not good, etc.
And about the retail price, as a designer and a person been in the industry for over 5 years, I have to say the retail price is nothing. we have a rule: how much you spend on the bag, *10 is the retail price. but it's good to obey the market's rule, otherwise or get suspect it's not real, or get kick out by the industry. want to authenticate in boutique? it's 100% fake (STOP SHARING OUR REVENUE! say by retailers)
but anyway, authenticate handbag by photos, which will be effected by lighting, angle, camera...you never know
And about the retail price, as a designer and a person been in the industry for over 5 years, I have to say the retail price is nothing. we have a rule: how much you spend on the bag, *10 is the retail price. but it's good to obey the market's rule, otherwise or get suspect it's not real, or get kick out by the industry. want to authenticate in boutique? it's 100% fake (STOP SHARING OUR REVENUE! say by retailers)
but anyway, authenticate handbag by photos, which will be effected by lighting, angle, camera...you never know
I never comment anything for http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tory-Burch-R...p2047675.l2557
all my opinion for authenticate handbag, I was 100% sure it is . real is real. fake is fake. my comment basically my buy experience and I am confidently that what I point it out , otherwise I will not say anything. . if you lost your store it because you sell fake sutff, when eBay investigate it and decide to close the store , it is not because one or two reports by a single person. they will asked professional like expert from toryburch or authority authenticate expert looked at it and close your store if it is really counterfeiter goods. if your merchandise is real , then no need to worry about .
yes it is kind of personal opinion, if you believe that way , then you can make your own decision. I talked to eBay customer support, she said the price if too far from market then red flag on. as I said, it is just opinion to share. We all are not authority authenticate . I won 't believe that is authentic at all. to me it is obviously fake.
I'm just trying to share opinion here, nothing hassle.
Tory Burch has 70% off private sell from time to time, they will have cute stuff with a really good price. and honestly their quality is differently every time, and the colors are different too. sometimes I just wonder why such a brand will give such misleading photos and such different quality...or they just think nobody will order the same color again...
but anyway I respect your opinion on your authentications, but please make sure you have evidences that will support your conclusions.
Tory Burch has 70% off private sell from time to time, they will have cute stuff with a really good price. and honestly their quality is differently every time, and the colors are different too. sometimes I just wonder why such a brand will give such misleading photos and such different quality...or they just think nobody will order the same color again...
but anyway I respect your opinion on your authentications, but please make sure you have evidences that will support your conclusions.
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Sorry for the essay. Warning - long post ahead! 
toryburchlove, I have never authenticated anything I wasn't sure about. I'm human, I may have made mistakes but if I have any doubts about a bag or don't feel I can properly authenticate then I won't and I don't. The Middys have been frustrating to authenticate. I have a whole bunch of posts where the answer to basically all of them was inconclusive. I'm not going to say a a bag is fake unless I am 100% sure. For small sellers, this is devastating. If you disagree with anything I have posted then why wouldn't you comment? Your opinions are definitely appreciated!
There are also quite a few sellers that show authentic bags in listings but then mail out something else. This has been a common problem for the Robinson line. I've bought enough fake TB bags on eBay that I've learned what to look for. I've been lucky that I've been able to get refunds on all but I had to be persistent and even involve TB on two of the bags. Both were Dome Satchels FYI.
If anyone has any questions or disagrees with anything why not post? We are all here to help each other. I always say if you have any doubts then don't buy the bag from eBay, only buy from an authorized retailer. Peace of mind is priceless.
toryburchlove, I have never authenticated anything I wasn't sure about. I'm human, I may have made mistakes but if I have any doubts about a bag or don't feel I can properly authenticate then I won't and I don't. The Middys have been frustrating to authenticate. I have a whole bunch of posts where the answer to basically all of them was inconclusive. I'm not going to say a a bag is fake unless I am 100% sure. For small sellers, this is devastating. If you disagree with anything I have posted then why wouldn't you comment? Your opinions are definitely appreciated!
There are also quite a few sellers that show authentic bags in listings but then mail out something else. This has been a common problem for the Robinson line. I've bought enough fake TB bags on eBay that I've learned what to look for. I've been lucky that I've been able to get refunds on all but I had to be persistent and even involve TB on two of the bags. Both were Dome Satchels FYI.
If anyone has any questions or disagrees with anything why not post? We are all here to help each other. I always say if you have any doubts then don't buy the bag from eBay, only buy from an authorized retailer. Peace of mind is priceless.
thank you for understanding of small sellers.Sorry for the essay. Warning - long post ahead!
toryburchlove, I have never authenticated anything I wasn't sure about. I'm human, I may have made mistakes but if I have any doubts about a bag or don't feel I can properly authenticate then I won't and I don't. The Middys have been frustrating to authenticate. I have a whole bunch of posts where the answer to basically all of them was inconclusive. I'm not going to say a a bag is fake unless I am 100% sure. For small sellers, this is devastating. If you disagree with anything I have posted then why wouldn't you comment? Your opinions are definitely appreciated!
There are also quite a few sellers that show authentic bags in listings but then mail out something else. This has been a common problem for the Robinson line. I've bought enough fake TB bags on eBay that I've learned what to look for. I've been lucky that I've been able to get refunds on all but I had to be persistent and even involve TB on two of the bags. Both were Dome Satchels FYI.
If anyone has any questions or disagrees with anything why not post? We are all here to help each other. I always say if you have any doubts then don't buy the bag from eBay, only buy from an authorized retailer. Peace of mind is priceless.
since Tory Burch is not like other top top end brands. this forum is the only place that buyers can get authentications, I will suggest my buyers to post on the site because it's more trustable for them to get a third party opinion. but if once it been marked as fake, I have no place to clean up. It's not like LV or Hermes will have a official paper authentication. and Tory Burch obviously doesn't want to get involved in this situation. So we trust you authenticators and please be sure and be justice when you leave your conclusions. Thank you
Thanks toryburchlove. I was highly suspicious the bag is fake. Luckily I didn't accuse the seller of selling a fake.
shopaholic_yuki don't worry that , it sounds you have confidently for your merchandise when you ask your buyer post here, I knew some situation such like Tory Burch revised her handbag design frequently, different country different version, sample sale. tory burch handbag quality isnot the top, so some buyer used it and claim it is fake because damage fast or tears. it is just toryburch bags quality issue. so if the purse isn't obviously fake, I won't comment it is fake, it is unfair to the seller.thank you for understanding of small sellers.
since Tory Burch is not like other top top end brands. this forum is the only place that buyers can get authentications, I will suggest my buyers to post on the site because it's more trustable for them to get a third party opinion. but if once it been marked as fake, I have no place to clean up. It's not like LV or Hermes will have a official paper authentication. and Tory Burch obviously doesn't want to get involved in this situation. So we trust you authenticators and please be sure and be justice when you leave your conclusions. Thank you
harlem_cutie, well I didn't try to involved much and it just an opinion. you did a very good job. same here, got rip off many times when I was buying, I learned some authenticate tory burch from expert broker, when I was buying I was very be carefully , did lots compare special saffaion leather . now I believe I know how to verity authentic Tory Burch handbag for my own buy.
I just share little tip to others buyers. since some handbag appear so fake. If I can 100% sure it is fake then I will give the comment. However I won't do often next month , I will very busy. good luck to your all .
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