Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)

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I am aware of that.
I am aware of that

The current owners of Chanel also started in beauty and fragrance.

Back to the topic of this thread - perhaps?
For many of us that was our entry into the world of Chanel & then many of us got on the
handbag wagon perhaps starting with the CF & now leading us to new 19 tote under discussion here
 
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I think so, (pls correct me if I'm wrong), Salvatore Ferragamo, Tod's (owns Schiaparelli), Moncler (owns Stone Island), Burberry, Ermenegildo Zegna, Canali, Missoni, Kiton, Brunello Cucinelli. Probably many more I haven't thought of.

Then, there are those niche, up-and-coming, and/or avant-garde houses like COMME des GARÇONS, Haider Ackermann, Vetements, BODE, The Row etc

Shoe designers: Christian Louboutin (EXOR owns a minority stake), Edward Green, Manolo Blahnik, George Cleverley, John Lobb (UK, John Lobb Intl is owned by Hermes)
I don't recommend Burberry as they're just as guilty of cutting costs to chase margins as the other big houses.
 
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Hi Admins and OP is there a way to split the tread and take some of these informative context and put it into new thread? So we can continue to learn and add new information about these brands. I think goal is to know what we are paying for (apart from logo/brand), when these brands don’t disclose some of their “secret sauce”. :smile:
 
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Hi Admins and OP is there a way to split the tread and take some of these informative context and put it into new thread? So we can continue to learn and add new information about these these brands. I think goal is to know what we are paying for when brands don’t disclose some of their “secret sauce”. :smile:
I think that's a good idea b/c clearly this is the potluck thread....(or has become that, but I've loved it)
 
Hi Admins and OP is there a way to split the tread and take some of these informative context and put it into new thread? So we can continue to learn and add new information about these brands. I think goal is to know what we are paying for (apart from logo/brand), when these brands don’t disclose some of their “secret sauce”. :smile:

I think that's a good idea b/c clearly this is the potluck thread....(or has become that, but I've loved it)

Trying hard to respond respectfully, but no. We have many off topic threads, no one has time to pull them apart…
Please, like all the other discussions, stick to topic. :tender:
 
Just saw this video on heart bag , and thought of sharing

This is just BAD. I'm not sure I have ever really heard about this one before, chain attachments falling off....I mean not even with minis for years and years? Again ...something shady is happening the last couple of seasons. And that heart bag "everyone wanted" until there are 94 for sale on Fashionphile right now, discounted...(at one point in think there were over 130 on there)...https://www.fashionphile.com/shop?search=chanel+love+heart+bag.
 
I saw this posted online, recent purchase of a classic flap and there is peeling. View attachment 5584944
okkkk this would REALLY piss me off. Has this person asked Chanel what they will do about it? What season is it from? Also whatever is underneath the peeling looks like ....I don't know what it looks like. Not leather. Bag "brains" lol.
 
TBH, while this thread is extremely enlightening, even when it goes off topic to include history, beauty & fragrance, it seems as though it has zero impact regardless of the facts posted.
I appreciate the OP, who seems to know a lot as well as several other people who have provided great insight. Folks really don’t have all that much interest in that thing we call “facts”.
It’s a terrible shame that we aren’t supported in breaking this great information off into another thread in light of the scolding of going off topic.
Thank you to all who I have learned so much from. This is an amazing group of women or men who have contributed facts and enlightenment.
Please keep in mind that logos don’t demonstrate status or wealth.
Best to you all and once again thank you OP and those who have provided so much information that even I didn’t know. You’re a wonderful group and I hope that people start to realize that logos don’t buy class. Kindness, respect and search of knowledge does.
 
Given that we can’t sift through the threads to weed out the info,

@TraceySH , Could or should the thread be renamed ?

Something commensurate with the rise and fall of the Roman Empire perhaps; or something like Coco would have been appalled by; or never imagined that …. Lol :P:biggrin:
Maybe a good idea. Sure. What do you guys want me to edit to?
 
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