Can someone explain the Birkin/Kelly obsession to me?

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I'll put my .02 cents in here.
First, I bought a preloved B 35 and discovered how well made these bags were.
Just real handcrafted quality in every respect.

That brought me to the conclusion that I wanted another Hermes bag, so I made an appointment with a wonderful SA and purchased a Blue Evelyne after asking so many questions here of this forum about that bag.
So many helpful people here sent me pictures of them modeling their bags and provided me with info regarding that particular bag.

My relationship with my SA has blossomed into a true friendship and next I bought a Garden Party and some twillys for the handles.

My SA knew of my love for the Birkins and that I wanted another in a different color, so I was visiting her one day a few weeks ago and tried on a Toolbox. She steered me away from the Toolbox and said it wasn't the bag for me, but that she had some different bags coming in soon and would call me as soon as they arrived.

About three days later, she called me and told me to come in because she had a bag for me to look at.

Lo and behold, it was a Gold Togo Birkin that she knew I'd be in love with.
I only expressed that I eventually wanted another Birkin and she was able to get me my dream bag.

Which proves that developing a great relationship with a great SA can and truly make you feel that you are at home in that boutique

I find this type of superior customer service to be lacking in every other boutique I have ever visited...BV, Chanel, LV, NM, you name it.

I know every one of the employees in my H boutique by name, thanks to my wonderful SA, and she treats me like royalty when I come in, if just for a chat.

There is a difference, believe me.

I've gone to Chanel Boutiques where I have people ignore me and don't seem to care if I shop or not.
The same way with LV and NM stores.

Try the Hermes experience, you may just find that you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Agree with you 100% :tup:
 
Honestly, good for you for being practical and realistic about your lifestyle. If you ever want an Hermes bag, there are plenty of easier-to-use options. For what it's worth, I have been alternating between two Evelyne TPMs (very small cross-shoulder bags that are just one compartment) during the pandemic, and I have been very happy with them. You can't pay me about to use my Kelly right now.

It's funny you say this because I've been still actively shopping H although not shopping for fashion things otherwise in 2020 (H has just been making me happy while home - and this year, whatever works right)....BUT I have been buying things I can use (except for Wild Singapore, that was for the art!)

So I have gotten sweaters, cashmere scarves, earrings (stuff I can wear while home on video calls) and a TPM because it's a good form factor for the pandemic. :smile: But if I can't use it right now during Pandemic times, and I admit I'm a one of those OCD people erring on the safer side of things...so really not getting out much, I'm not buying it.

I told my SA in a year or so, when we have a vaccine and I can travel again, I have things I want, but for now I will buy things I can immediately use and enjoy.
 
Hermès bags only started to appeal to me in my late 30s. To be honest when bigger birkins and Kellys were popular in the past they didn’t appeal to me too as they looked like work totes, and I used to lug documents around in a tote so I don’t need 2 heavy work totes to make me look sillier. In my 20s it was all Chanel and Dior. I turned to Hermès after my Chanel classic and Dior bags started giving me issues (quality and durability issues). I wanted good quality and simplicity, and Hermès bags are very practical and versatile to me. Personally I like the smaller sizes of birkin and kelly much more, and I prefer the birkin to the kelly in terms of ease of usage.

I only started to fall in love with H bags after actually using them. They don’t look that exceptional but they are exceptionally classic, classy, practical and highly versatile. I can wear jeans or a work suit or a girly dress and a birkin or kelly suits all. I use a b/k for many occasions too, except on occasions where carrying a luxury bag is not appropriate (applies to Chanel, LV, Dior too not just Hermès).

You can try out a Bolide, lindy, picotin too if the aesthetics of a birkin or kelly doesn’t appeal to you, or you dislike the efforts needed to acquire one. Also, bags are readily available at resellers, so no one really needs wait for 6 months or eternity for a bag.

I agree that the ‘relationship’ and quota building thing can be toxic and unpleasant. I hear many people talking about how wonderful their Sas are but my Sa is only wonderful when I spend continuously spend $$$. At first I was very upset with this ‘system’ or game to get a birkin or kelly and my husband hates it too. But I’m used to it already now because to me this is a business relationship and not a friendship - we don’t get these bags for free. If I don’t like the system I’m free to get out of it anytime and I have done so before, when I was fed up and went to a reseller to buy something I really wanted on the spot in the exact color and specs and no drama, no ‘work’ and no waiting needed. It was so hugely satisfying. I don’t need any Sa ‘relationship’ to make me feel good.

I get way much better and dare I say sincere service at Chanel and Dior but unfortunately I am no longer into their bags much these days.
Are there other brands that you are currently into? (As you stated you are currently not really into Chanel, Dior and Hermes). Just curious :smile:. Lately I have been purchasing some “old bottega” bags (Tomas Maier designs) as all the Tomas Maier designs have been phased out at Bottega Veneta (which made me want them more before they were really gone) I am sometimes just a bit tired of the same Chanel, Dior and even Hermes bags I see on influencers on instagram, youtube and also in real life. And currently trying to look into other brands which are also amazing quality and design but less popular so to say.
 
I’ve just started on the luxury bags slippery slope two years ago and being 60 I have made up for the last 40 years of being sensible. Now I’m exploring the idea of finishing my collection with a Hermes bag. Hence I’m reading a variety of postings on the bag and getting illuminated. I like many am interested in what people are saying about the quality of the bag. I love my Chanel classic flaps and my Lady Dior bag. LV is my go to for practical luxury. Hermès bags don't seem that attractive in terms of looks but I’m thinking of a Bolide 27 to start with. I’m hoping it will be similar to my Alma BB in terms of practical use. At some point I’d like to explore getting the Hermès Kelly. I have two daughters who started buying luxury bags before me so I’m sure they would love to have them later.
 
I’ve just started on the luxury bags slippery slope two years ago and being 60 I have made up for the last 40 years of being sensible. Now I’m exploring the idea of finishing my collection with a Hermes bag. Hence I’m reading a variety of postings on the bag and getting illuminated. I like many am interested in what people are saying about the quality of the bag. I love my Chanel classic flaps and my Lady Dior bag. LV is my go to for practical luxury. Hermès bags don't seem that attractive in terms of looks but I’m thinking of a Bolide 27 to start with. I’m hoping it will be similar to my Alma BB in terms of practical use. At some point I’d like to explore getting the Hermès Kelly. I have two daughters who started buying luxury bags before me so I’m sure they would love to have them later.
As someone who works a lot with luxury fashion I have to say hands down Hermes quality is exquisite.
once you've held a Hermes bag it puts you off of spending thousands on most other brands handbags (I used to love early Marc Jacobs,Phoebe era Celine and still rate Loewe and Moynat is also exquisite quality) I brought my first 'proper' Hermes bag when I turned 60 last year (I say proper because I brought a very battered Kelly bag 20 years previously because it was an icon I just wanted to own though it was super cheap and beat up) and now I cant really consider buying anything else.
Perhaps look into some of the discontinued bags to start your journey and buy pre-loved do try and find one that you find attractive because its an investment so dont buy a bag because its Hermes and you feel its about time you owned one, buy buy one because you love the design too and will feel excited wearing it-have a read through the 'ode to' Bolide thread and others too.
and when you purchase please share images and your story
 
I keep my bags in the same shelf with the same well cares but last year I had to sell some of my Chanel and YSL bags (that I just bought a year earlier) because I feel the leather surface had changed too fast than it should be. Comparing to Birkin bag from Hermes, the leather still looks good like the day I bought it from H store.

I personally feel it worth for investment on Hermes bag. I used to think Chanel classic flap bag is enough for me but now I turn to Hermes. I feel the style of Birkin/Kelly bags are more appealing to almost every outfit looks too.

For Hermes jewelry products, I used to not understand why some people buy it because the price is so high. Many of my friends own a jewelry and diamond product stores, they sold a bracelet and rings to me with a lot lower price comparing to Hermes but the style and design are completely different. When I scored my first B bag, I looked at some gold and silver jewelry products in H website and I thought to myself, will it be fitted on me? But when I try them on at H store, it completely looks amazing.

I very appreciated H product quality and their SA that treat customers very well too.
 
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As someone who works a lot with luxury fashion I have to say hands down Hermes quality is exquisite.
once you've held a Hermes bag it puts you off of spending thousands on most other brands handbags (I used to love early Marc Jacobs,Phoebe era Celine and still rate Loewe and Moynat is also exquisite quality) I brought my first 'proper' Hermes bag when I turned 60 last year (I say proper because I brought a very battered Kelly bag 20 years previously because it was an icon I just wanted to own though it was super cheap and beat up) and now I cant really consider buying anything else.
Perhaps look into some of the discontinued bags to start your journey and buy pre-loved do try and find one that you find attractive because its an investment so dont buy a bag because its Hermes and you feel its about time you owned one, buy buy one because you love the design too and will feel excited wearing it-have a read through the 'ode to' Bolide thread and others too.
and when you purchase please share images and your story
Thanks so much for your advice. I will positively look into going preloved. The only problem is preloved is so expensive I feel I may as well spend that money in the Hermès store. In any case, with the lockdowns i intend to wait until I can go into an actual store. I did see a Moynat bag in NYC and I agree it was beautiful. I just bought a Loewe puzzle and a Celine 16 so you are right. I shouldn’t really buy an Hermès bag unless I love it.
 
Thanks so much for your advice. I will positively look into going preloved. The only problem is preloved is so expensive I feel I may as well spend that money in the Hermès store. In any case, with the lockdowns i intend to wait until I can go into an actual store. I did see a Moynat bag in NYC and I agree it was beautiful. I just bought a Loewe puzzle and a Celine 16 so you are right. I shouldn’t really buy an Hermès bag unless I love it.
Definitely check your nearest store before buying. I was in my H store 2 weeks ago and they had a brand new black Picotin 18 on the shelf selling for $1000 LESS than what resellers are selling them for. And new SLGs like the Calvi for half what I have seen them for on the preloved market. The resale/preloved market for H goods is ridiculous!!!!
 
Definitely check your nearest store before buying. I was in my H store 2 weeks ago and they had a brand new black Picotin 18 on the shelf selling for $1000 LESS than what resellers are selling them for. And new SLGs like the Calvi for half what I have seen them for on the preloved market. The resale/preloved market for H goods is ridiculous!!!!
Agreed!
 
Thanks so much for your advice. I will positively look into going preloved. The only problem is preloved is so expensive I feel I may as well spend that money in the Hermès store. In any case, with the lockdowns i intend to wait until I can go into an actual store. I did see a Moynat bag in NYC and I agree it was beautiful. I just bought a Loewe puzzle and a Celine 16 so you are right. I shouldn’t really buy an Hermès bag unless I love it.


Buying 'pre-loved' is not the same as being 'new' and at a premium from a reseller.
There are many bargains to be had if you are prepared to consider a ten-year-old 'pre-loved' bag.
Remember two of the reasons we justify the cost of Hermes are the quality of the materials and workmanship that can make an older bag still be like new.
Don't think that you are missing the experience of shopping in boutique either, because if you buy at a premium from a reseller you are not getting that.

The title of the thread is specifically about the Birkin and the Kelly; two specific Hermes styles.
Athough they have now developed a cudos from rarity and celebrity, originally Grace Kelly was attracted to the style that now bears her name when sent on a shopping expedition for a film in which she was to feature. In spite of its complicated closure method, it is a special variant of a classic flap style which is timeless.
A timeless classic style is more difficult to argue for the Birkin. From a design point of view it is more difficult to understand how a tote, with an even more complicated closure method that causes many people to tuck the flap down the back (rendering it pointless) has become popular in sizes much smaller that it was envisaged.

Even if 'cudos from rarity and celebrity' is easy to argue at this time with the influence of social media, it does not mean that a lot of people don't just buy because they like the styles and become seduced by all the Hermes qualities and want to have more.
 
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Buying 'pre-loved' is not the same as being 'new' and at a premium from a reseller.
There are many bargains to be had if you are prepared to consider a ten-year-old 'pre-loved' bag.
Remember two of the reasons we justify the cost of Hermes are the quality of the materials and workmanship that can make an older bag still be like new.
Don't think that you are missing the experience of shopping in boutique either, because if you buy at a premium from a reseller you are not getting that.

The title of the thread is specifically about the Birkin and the Kelly; two specific Hermes styles.
Athough they have now developed a cudos from rarity and celebrity, originally Grace Kelly was attracted to the style that now bears her name when sent on a shopping expedition for a film in which she was to feature. In spite of its complicated closure method, it is a special variant of a classic flap style which is timeless.
A timeless classic style is more difficult to argue for the Birkin. From a design point of view it is more difficult to understand how a tote, with an even more complicated closure method that causes many people to tuck the flap down the back (rendering it pointless) has become popular in sizes much smaller that it was envisaged.

Even if 'cudos from rarity and celebrity' is easy to argue at this time with the influence of social media, it does not mean that a lot of people don't just buy because they like the styles and become seduced by all the Hermes qualities and want to have more.
Brilliantly steered back on topic and thank you for pointing out the difference between pre-loved and re-seller BNIB bags which I would never encourage purchasing.
 
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