Thank you that's really helpful.I have never seen the oak Bayswater tote on sale but have seen a black variation. I think it was black patent possibly, not classic grain. I am assuming that the black & oak Darley satchels won’t go on sale unless they are discontinued .. but someone else may have other advice for you! Black and oak do go on sale at times, like the Bayswaters, Bayswater backpacks, Tessies, etc.