Authenticate This JUICY COUTURE

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Hello,
Please, help me with these bags. Two of those I purchased some time ago and are now in big need for a wash - sorry about that! I have used them quite often. The black one I bought recently. It doesn't have the label inside??? Otherwise looks like my grey and pink one in quality and leather and stuff.
But they might be both fakes. I have never seen a real Juicy as we don't have the brand in my country. So I cannot look them up anywhere here. And also all three I believe are a bit old style Juicys. Only the grey one looks more recent to me, compared to the three. So I cannot find them online either. I don't know what they are called. The sellers were women from ebay and the first two are supposed to be original, the black one the woman said that she doesn't know so I bought it pretty cheap. However, as I said now that I have it in front of me, it doesn't look like a fake to me at least.
So here are the pics of the first bag. Will put the other ones too.
So is it the real deal or fake?
The inside pink label does not show all the words Juicy Couture. It is sown too much in. So it says ICY COUTURE instead. :laugh:
 

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Second bag from Juicy Couture - again I don't know the name. I think I got sold this for "new". It did look new and had a pink dust bag. However I believe now that a charm was removed from it. I did wonder then, but now I examined pretty closely so I saw the evidence on the bag that it was there at some point. The evidence being- there is a bit of badly cut leather (like I would cut it if I tried) just below the rim on the right hand side of the bag. It is sewn not along it but across it, like you would hang something on it to dangle. Also near the zipper there is a ring that apparently doesn't hold anything.
 

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