Authenticate this Hermes **BAG** Archived 07/31/10

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S'Mom said:
AH! Thank you, PERI......

Totally in agreement with you on this one. How much is the seller asking for this bag?
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S'Mom, it is this auction. I looked at Picasa shots, agree about the handle cracks, yes it can be replaced as Perigord says. Again, get better pictures of whole bag. It is authentic, and I think that if rest of bag is OK, it would be worth saving at this price just to get your hands on vintage box.

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Hi,

Could you please help me with authenticating this bag? The seller does not seem to much history on eBay or other items listed for sale

Thank you

Item:Hermes Kelly Handbag Auth100% in Brown leather rigid box

Listing number: 270606224659
Seller: mibattut
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Hermes-Kelly-Han...#ht_5300wt_920

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Bababebi, unless you are a serious collector and want a very vintage bag in your collection, I would pass on this bag. I don't think it is for a person starting out with Hermes. I would not want to start out with a bag that need handle replacement. You would be putting too much money into an old bag IMO. You will always have an old bag with a new handle.
 
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Bababebi said:
S'Mom, it is this auction. I looked at Picasa shots, agree about the handle cracks, yes it can be replaced as Perigord says. Again, get better pictures of whole bag. It is authentic, and I think that if rest of bag is OK, it would be worth saving at this price just to get your hands on vintage box.

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Hi,

Could you please help me with authenticating this bag? The seller does not seem to much history on eBay or other items listed for sale

Thank you

Item:Hermes Kelly Handbag Auth100% in Brown leather rigid box

Listing number: 270606224659
Seller: mibattut
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Hermes-Kelly-Han...#ht_5300wt_920

Comments:
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Bababebi, Perigold and S'mom
I'm considering the chocolate brown leather one. I have asked the seller for more pics showing the bag, handle and corners. Bid is starting at USD 1,896. It looks like if I chose to get it, I would need to send it to spa and have handle replaced or repaired.
I'm also confused with the description. Title mentions Box which I thought was Box Calf leather but the detailed descriptions mentions Barenia. Is Box and Barenia different?
Thank you so much for your help!
 
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ColoursnSilk said:
Bababebi, Perigold and S'mom
I'm considering the chocolate brown leather one. I have asked the seller for more pics showing the bag, handle and corners. Bid is starting at USD 1,896. It looks like if I chose to get it, I would need to send it to spa and have handle replaced or repaired.
I'm also confused with the description. Title mentions Box which I thought was Box Calf leather but the detailed descriptions mentions Barenia. Is Box and Barenia different?
Thank you so much for your help!
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The seller doesn't know what she is talking about. It is NOT barenia. It is box leather. Please look at my comment above. I see no reason to buy this bag.

In addition, if you replaced the handle, it could very well stick out from the rest of the bag as looking very new. I have an idea that matching this brown might be a lot harder than matching a black.
 
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gracekelly said:
Bababebi, unless you are a serious collector and want a very vintage bag in your collection, I would pass on this bag. I don't think it is for a person starting out with Hermes. I would not want to start out with a bag that need handle replacement. You would be putting too much money into an old bag IMO. You will always have an old bag with a new handle.
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Good point, had not thought of that, sounds like someone with a bad face lift, Old bag with new handle, Ha ha!

Original Poster, Gracekelly has an excellent point of view, this bag is not for a new collector, maybe only for someone who wants a Mary-Kate Olsen type bag, cracks and all.
 
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gracekelly and Bababebi Good point about condition of the bag. It would be like getting an vintage car but needing to replace/repair the engine. Bit of a challenge for a newbie.

Yes, I contacted the seller. It appears that he/she does not have any idea about difference between box calf and barenia.
 
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ColoursnSilk said:
gracekelly and Bababebi Good point about condition of the bag. It would be like getting an vintage car but needing to replace/repair the engine. Bit of a challenge for a newbie.

Yes, I contacted the seller. It appears that he/she does not have any idea about difference between box calf and barenia.
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I am not terribly familiar with 40-year-old stamps, but the name stamp is not consistent with barenia. The images are not great, but the leather has a somewhat dull look. This might be consistent with stored oxiduzed barenia...but a true used barenia would have a glossier patina. The stamp is consistent with box, but I do not know what the dull-leather look in some of the images means.

I still have many questions about this bag and the condition that are not answered by the images. I suspect that if you keep looking, you will find a better vintage specimen.
 
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Perigord said:
I am not terribly familiar with 40-year-old stamps, but the name stamp is not consistent with barenia. The images are not great, but the leather has a somewhat dull look. This might be consistent with stored oxiduzed barenia...but a true used barenia would have a glossier patina. The stamp is consistent with box, but I do not know what the dull-leather look in some of the images means.

I still have many questions about this bag and the condition that are not answered by the images. I suspect that if you keep looking, you will find a better vintage specimen.
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You are right. There are a few questions that need to be answered about this bag. Leather does look as glossy as other pics with box leather. Perhaps it is dry.

On a separate note, I found another vintage specimen in better condition. Will post it shortly.
 
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