Authenticate This DOONEY & BOURKE

[Vlad]

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[BeenBurned]

Pretty sure this is fake but hoping to hear otherwise.
The interior lining is either leather or faux leather, not cloth like I’m seeing on all the other interior images online. The edging is red and stitching is yellow. I honestly know nothing about this brand and truly appreciate all the help and guidance.

Why do you think it's fake? It's authentic.

I'm not sure whether the plastic-y lining is leather or vinyl but it's definitely used on authentic Dooneys.

 

[BeenBurned]

Curious about this listing:

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Did DB make black on black bags? Asked seller for a photo of the inside tag and number on back.

The color is/was done by Dooney and so far, the bag looks okay but I'd like to see both sides of the red, white and blue tag.

 

[veronicasfoley]

The color is/was done by Dooney and so far, the bag looks okay but I'd like to see both sides of the red, white and blue tag.

Thanks. The seller updated the listing with tag photos when I asked her. Bought the bag.

I know there are no absolutes, but it seems from this thread that fake vintage Dooneys with tags that look correct and have serial numbers are nowhere near as common as fake vintage Coaches with creeds.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi all, new to TPF. Long time lurker, but finally made an account because I am absolutely stumped on this Dooney bag that I just purchased online. I have never seen this one before (it's authentic though). I was wondering if anyone has seen this one before and if they happen to know the style name? I've had a heck of a time trying to find any info on it so far. I've searched for coated canvas, canvas, big duck, duck outline, etc, and all the other types of bags come up with those descriptors. I'm still looking, but if anyone has any insight, that'd be great.

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The fabric may be cabriolet, which is an uncoated canvas that Dooney has used for travel bags and totes or nylon. The overall style is familiar (the Editor's Tote).
But I've only seen it in solid colors, with the contrasting trim, but no large duck logo.

Thank you for that info! Helped a ton! I read your response via the email notification and I found it pretty quickly (I see now that you finally remembered what it was).

Finding tons of pictures of this bag now, but as for the giant duck logo, so far, I've not found anything but solid colors, like you said. But that style name alone helps immensely. Thanks so much!

I'm also glad to find out it's a regular canvas and not coated. Getting those stains out may be a bit easier. The bag looks like it's new and never used or barely used and the marks are from storage. I'll find out once I get it.

Edit- Finally found a sold listing for one, so I'm headed in the right direction!

Glad to help.
Some 'unique' Dooney bags are 'one of a kind' or 'limited production'....
They might have been samples or made for one specific retailer (dept. store).
I can't authenticate, since I don't have the experience or skills.
But glad the info was useful in your research.

One picture isn't adequate for authentication.

You say you purchased the bag online. Please post a link to the listing and seller ID.

 

[BeenBurned]

Vintage: Dooney sometimes makes the same style in different fabrications....
so the Editor's Tote is now done in nylon (and it's a theck, heavy, high quality nylon).
It may have been made in Cabriolet, which was a canvas, at another time.

AFAIK, Cabrio / Cabriolet referred to perforated leather, reminiscent of the seat covers in older model cars. I'm not familiar or have even heard of Cabrio canvas.

These are a couple of examples of items from the cabrioleather collection.

 

[BeenBurned]

Curious about this listing:

Mercari: Your Marketplace

Mercari is your marketplace. It's the perfect place to declutter and discover items that are uniquely you. Say 'goodbye' to your old go-tos and 'hello' to one-of-a-kind treasures.

merc.li

Did DB make black on black bags? Asked seller for a photo of the inside tag and number on back.

The color is/was done by Dooney and so far, the bag looks okay but I'd like to see both sides of the red, white and blue tag.

Thanks. The seller updated the listing with tag photos when I asked her. Bought the bag.

I know there are no absolutes, but it seems from this thread that fake vintage Dooneys with tags that look correct and have serial numbers are nowhere near as common as fake vintage Coaches with creeds.

The bag is fine.

 

[vintagelove21]

One picture isn't adequate for authentication.

You say you purchased the bag online. Please post a link to the listing and seller ID.

Wasn't looking for authentication, just what the bag name was since I hadn't seen that particular one before.

Turns out it was made of a coated canvas after all and not the canvas that they were speaking of.

AFAIK, Cabrio / Cabriolet referred to perforated leather, reminiscent of the seat covers in older model cars. I'm not familiar or have even heard of Cabrio canvas.

These are a couple of examples of items from the cabrioleather collection.

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Same. I'd only known of it being the leather, but it turns out that it's indeed a material that Dooney uses on some of its totes and travel bags. I'd seen it before but had no idea that's what they called it.

Currently, Dooney only has one item on its website for the cabriolet collection that's an iPad case, but it has info on the canvas there.

"Cabriolet fabric has a 3 layer construction. The top layer is a durable acrylic twill weave. The inside is rubber for increased support, and the lining is 100% cotton."

 

[vintagelove21]

Thanks. The seller updated the listing with tag photos when I asked her. Bought the bag.

I know there are no absolutes, but it seems from this thread that fake vintage Dooneys with tags that look correct and have serial numbers are nowhere near as common as fake vintage Coaches with creeds.

Tbh, it's really rare. I've yet to come across fake ones with the tags and telltale hardware (usually the vintage bags).
I always tell people that vintage Dooneys are pretty easy to tell when fake- The hardware has button rivets (fake) vs knobby ones (authentic), then there's the red, white, and blue tag inside that's the major tell. Some fakes just look fake- the leather is shiny and plastic-y looking and so on.

The majority of the fakes out there don't have the red, white, and blue tag or have the wrong hardware. Once you know what to look for, you can just tell one is fake by looking at it. "Yep, fake, those rivets are totally wrong."

Vintage Coach on the other hand- there can be some damned good fakes out there. I have my suspicions about a daypack I got off of Poshmark. Everything looked legit, but once it was in my hands, something seemed off. But who knows, it could be fine too. I've never really gone beyond my suspicions due to just being lazy about it haha. It's pretty similar to a fake I picked up at a thrift that I just was reckless about checking. Fortunately, it was only $10 so nbd, but that daypack had some bits about it that reminded me of that fake.

 

[Crystalcoach]

It's authentic. Couldn't tell you the specific style of bag though.

Thank you! I think I found the name of it: Chiara. Pretty sure anyway.

 

[BeenBurned]

Tbh, it's really rare. I've yet to come across fake ones with the tags and telltale hardware (usually the vintage bags).
I always tell people that vintage Dooneys are pretty easy to tell when fake- The hardware has button rivets (fake) vs knobby ones (authentic), then there's the red, white, and blue tag inside that's the major tell. Some fakes just look fake- the leather is shiny and plastic-y looking and so on.

The majority of the fakes out there don't have the red, white, and blue tag or have the wrong hardware. Once you know what to look for, you can just tell one is fake by looking at it. "Yep, fake, those rivets are totally wrong."

Vintage Coach on the other hand- there can be some damned good fakes out there. I have my suspicions about a daypack I got off of Poshmark. Everything looked legit, but once it was in my hands, something seemed off. But who knows, it could be fine too. I've never really gone beyond my suspicions due to just being lazy about it haha. It's pretty similar to a fake I picked up at a thrift that I just was reckless about checking. Fortunately, it was only $10 so nbd, but that daypack had some bits about it that reminded me of that fake.

While I agree that many fakes are obvious, I have some very close examples in my records, saved over the last 20+ years.

As for your comment of "then there's the red, white, and blue tag inside that's the major tell," I'll say that if one doesn't know what to look for, it's not necessarily a "major tell."

Here are some examples:



The following compares a very close fake Dooney Norfolk to a genuine one.

 

[BeenBurned]

Wasn't looking for authentication, just what the bag name was since I hadn't seen that particular one before.

This thread is for authentications and that's where you posted. If you were looking for an ID, there's a different thread for that.

Can anyone identify this Dooney?

A BIG Thank You from me :) Anyways, This is my friends bag. She bought it from Younkers. Im interested in buying her some accessories for her. I dont know the line which this bag is from though, its not even on the Dooney and Bourke website! It also has little ants on it if that helps? :shrugs:

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[myshoes5]

You really need to post more pictures, like someone else suggested. Posting only snippets of the bag makes it difficult to tell what it is.

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[BeenBurned]

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[veronicasfoley]

While I agree that many fakes are obvious, I have some very close examples in my records, saved over the last 20+ years.

As for your comment of "then there's the red, white, and blue tag inside that's the major tell," I'll say that if one doesn't know what to look for, it's not necessarily a "major tell."

Here are some examples:
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The following compares a very close fake Dooney Norfolk to a genuine one.
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Wow, I can see how someone could fall for the front of the first tag, especially from a seller who knew they had a fake and lit/angled the photo to make the white of the tag color and incorrect font difficult to detect.

 

[myshoes5]

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