Authenticate This DOONEY & BOURKE

[Vlad]

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[BeenBurned]

Item: dooney bourke handbag NEW
Listing number: 363442132561
Seller: kjp2much
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/363442132561?hash=item549ed6d651:g:Ba0AAOSwokVg0NP8
Comments: I believe that this is a fake chestnut Florentine and wanted to get other's opinions. The stitching on outside and inside green suede is not at all straight, the hardware is bright and shiny - not matte, o-rings are not fully soldered, crossbody strap hardware is not what Dooney uses, no green suede under tassels, no braided zipper pull, Dooney dust bag is low quality, and yellow certificate card looks like it was printed at home - among many other issues.

Anyone else want to authentic this? And, if you're currently bidding on this bag or thinking about putting in a bid, please be cautious.

Thanks authenticators!

I don't believe that the bag is fake but there's no question that it's sloppy. My guess is that the bag was made either on a Friday but people who were anxious to get out of work and home to celebrate the weekend or it was made on a Monday, after a long weekend of partying.

Ideally, I'd like to see the seller post pictures of both sides of the RWB tag with serial number and skip stealing stock images (last 2) from Dillards.

I went back to look at the listing because the quality is bothersome and I don't like what I see.

I can see what I believe is the back of the red, white and blue label and it appears to be blank and the dust bag isn't the correct material.

I don't recommend buying that bag because I think there's more wrong than sloppy Friday/Monday construction.

I kept going back to that listing because I kept thinking about the crappy construction incorrect details.

kjp2much is definitely fake. (It has been removed already!) Good catch @Callan!

But before it was removed, I was able to save pictures to show comps. When looked at side-by-side, the differences are obvious!

 

[Callan]

Nicely done with the comps! I wish I thought about saving some of those pictures, that wonky stitching was something else. I've never seen a Florentine fake this thorough before, but it still sent off some major red flags!

Thank you for looking into this @BeenBurned !

 

[lavenderjunkie]

I am not an authenticator, but I do have a large Dooney Florentine satchel collection.
To add to the 'knowledge base' on the forum, I pass on the following:

Originally the base on the Florentine satchels had a center seam and was rounded, and the belting
continued to the seam. The bags tended to sag when filled.
Made in USA bags (a small percent of the small satchels) had a reinforced rectangular base,
which provided stability and prevented saggy bottom.
Over time, Dooney started using the rectangular reinforced base on all the Florentine satchels,
regardless of country of origin.

Also, the Made in USA Florentine satchels had RED leather backing on the tassels and
a Red leather interior collar under the zipper, in place of the green suede.

Of course, different people have preferences regarding green suede vs. red leather
and the construction of the bottom of the bag.

Also, the metal trim on the Florentine satchel is always brushed gold.
And the longer strap pictured in that listing did not have the clip attachment
mechanism the Dooney uses on any of their Florentine handbags, or any Dooney
bag as far as I know.

Hope this info is useful.

 

[Callan]

Thank you @lavenderjunkie ! There were so many tiny differences between this fake bag and the authentic satchels in my Florentine collection that my ears perked up. I'm glad I looked closer! I've seen a handful of fake Florentine satchels over the years, but none this dedicated.

I did notice that the fake bag has been relisted.

Item: authenic dooney & bourke handbag
Listing number: 363450694361
Seller: kjp2much
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/363450694361

I saved the pictures this time and have attached them here for future reference as we just may start seeing more of these in the future.

 

[sagg99]

I'm with a group that posts vintage purses for fun, not for sell. One member received a Dooney as a gift, the other responders felt that my questions about the bag were wrong. because and I quote "I have a bag just like that, so it's real". I could be wrong, but my instincts are that the bag is a fake, Should I let her know it's fake, or eat crow?

 

[sagg99]

Here's another photo of the top flap

 

[sagg99]

I don't see where the Dooney duck is sewn on, only the toggles

 

[BeenBurned]

I'm with a group that posts vintage purses for fun, not for sell. One member received a Dooney as a gift, the other responders felt that my questions about the bag were wrong. because and I quote "I have a bag just like that, so it's real". I could be wrong, but my instincts are that the bag is a fake, Should I let her know it's fake, or eat crow? View attachment 5125080View attachment 5125079View attachment 5125078View attachment 5125078

Here's another photo of the top flapView attachment 5125084

The bag is fake.

They need to eat crow!


ETA: Here's an authentic version of what the fake is trying to copy:

Dooney & Bourke Vintage Double Pocket Outback Crossbody | eBay

Nice bag that is hard to find. Inner has a few darkening spots but very clean. Strap drop 21" adjustable.

www.ebay.com

Compare:

 

[sagg99]

Thank you BeenBurned, I knew I was right, especially after learning how to spot fakes from experts. I'll let her know so she doesn't try to sell it.

 

[BeenBurned]

Thank you BeenBurned, I knew I was right, especially after learning how to spot fakes from experts. I'll let her know so she doesn't try to sell it.

There are such obvious differences just in the comparison of the fronts of both bags. Have the owner/giftee look at the listing of the authentic bag and compare to hers.

 

[violetsvanity]

Hi, I’m new so I can post a new thread- I just got back from a yard sale and was so exciting thinking I found some amazing bags and upon further inspection am pretty sure I bought fakes. can anyone help authenticate (or verify they aren’t real?) Thanks.
Signed,
Bummed out

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi, I’m new so I can post a new thread- I just got back from a yard sale and was so exciting thinking I found some amazing bags and upon further inspection am pretty sure I bought fakes. can anyone help authenticate (or verify they aren’t real?) Thanks.
Signed,
Bummed out

Please show pictures of the interior of each.

 

[violetsvanity]

Sure, here you go

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi, I’m new so I can post a new thread- I just got back from a yard sale and was so exciting thinking I found some amazing bags and upon further inspection am pretty sure I bought fakes. can anyone help authenticate (or verify they aren’t real?) Thanks.
Signed,
Bummed out

Please show pictures of the interior of each.

Sure, here you go

It's hard to tell from your pictures which pictures are from which bags but from what I see, the red bag is fake and the navy (or black?) one is also fake. The fob on the dark one may be authentic but not the bag.

For the other two, please do separate posts for each bag showing which bag I'm seeing as well as the inside, the back and if there are feet, the bottoms. Are there any red, white and blue tags with serial numbers on either? If so, pictures of front and back should be shown. (I'm doubtful about the bone one though more pictures are needed to be sure. I think the taupe bag is okay but again, please post more pictures.)

 

[violetsvanity]

No tags on any that was the big giveaway. Here is the tan/taupe only. Thank you.