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Hi, here are three bags to authenticate, please

dooney n bourke leather purse

item num. 191799510170

seller id: zag428

This one same style n color but I think its not authentic,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooney-Bour...b34c87&pid=100011&rk=3&rkt=10&sd=191799510170

item id: 161971858501
seller id:mrsmithjd

And thirdly another norfolk, but this has the yellow stitching, and boy is it expensive.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291659951161?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

item num. 291659951161
seller id: khattnipp31

Thanks in advance

^^^ Those two are both fake. (zag428 has the authentic bag below.)

Authentic.
 
Hi, here are three bags to authenticate, please

dooney n bourke leather purse

item num. 191799510170

seller id: zag428

This one same style n color but I think its not authentic,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooney-Bour...b34c87&pid=100011&rk=3&rkt=10&sd=191799510170





item id: 161971858501
seller id:mrsmithjd

And thirdly another norfolk, but this has the yellow stitching, and boy is it expensive.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291659951161?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

item num. 291659951161
seller id: khattnipp31

Thanks in advance

^^^ Those two are both fake. (zag428 has the authentic bag below.)


Authentic.


Thanks very much
 
I'm confused with this one, it looks authentic, however the brass feet on the bottom do not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Doo...601988?hash=item3abb6d3e84:g:GZAAAOSwuYVWmYLo

item id:252252601988

seller ID:5gilmores Thanks, very much

It looks authentic to me too. It's definitely not an Essex, though. It looks like a Small Carpet Bag, but without measurements, I can't be certain.

I agree with you about the feet, they are different from others of this style I've seen. For example, scroll down to the picture of the feet on this one:

http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/GRAB/906-GRAB-carpet-whitebt.htm
 
I'm confused with this one, it looks authentic, however the brass feet on the bottom do not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Doo...601988?hash=item3abb6d3e84:g:GZAAAOSwuYVWmYLo

item id:252252601988

seller ID:5gilmores Thanks, very much

It looks authentic to me too. It's definitely not an Essex, though. It looks like a Small Carpet Bag, but without measurements, I can't be certain.

I agree with you about the feet, they are different from others of this style I've seen. For example, scroll down to the picture of the feet on this one:

http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/GRAB/906-GRAB-carpet-whitebt.htm
The bag looks fine.

I found this listing that, although the seller doesn't show the inside, she does show the older DB (not duck) fob and the same feet. I believe that the rounded feet were on the original versions of carpet bags.
https://poshmark.com/listing/SOLDVintage-Dooney-Bourke-Carpet-Bag-55cbfb5ce1d65f1f79000d83
 
Could someone please authenticate this Goodwill find? Thank you!
Can you also tell me if there is something missing from the latch plate - it doesn't close securely. And would the correct replacement fob be the brass duck?

Item: Large Cavalry Spectator
Dimensions: 10"H, 9W, 2D
 

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Could someone please authenticate this Goodwill find? Thank you!
Can you also tell me if there is something missing from the latch plate - it doesn't close securely. And would the correct replacement fob be the brass duck?

Item: Large Cavalry Spectator
Dimensions: 10"H, 9W, 2D

It's authentic.

It's hard to diagnose the latch plate without seeing both sides, front and back. It might just be that the weight of the flap of the bag pushes the larger round hole (the top part of the "keyhole") over the post, allowing it to slide out. Or the post could be loose.

As for which fob to use: the DB fob was used until sometime in 1988, and the brass duck fob was used after that. Based on the red white and blue label sewn inside your bag, it was made in 1988 or later. Therefore the duck fob would be appropriate. [http://www.ebay.com/gds/Dooney-Bour...L-Tack-Bags-PHOTOS-/10000000004594573/g.html]
 
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It's authentic.

It's hard to diagnose the latch plate without seeing both sides, front and back. It might just be that the weight of the flap of the bag pushes the larger round hole (the top part of the "keyhole") over the post, allowing it to slide out. Or the post could be loose.

As for which fob to use: the DB fob was used until sometime in 1988, and the brass duck fob was used after that. Based on the red white and blue label sewn inside your bag, it was made in 1988 or later. Therefore the duck fob would be appropriate. [http://www.ebay.com/gds/Dooney-Bour...L-Tack-Bags-PHOTOS-/10000000004594573/g.html]

Thanks so much Catbird9! That link is fab - bookmarked!

Here's the latch back and all parts seems tightly connected so I bet it's just the weight.
I just keep looking at the two smaller front latch posts, and wanting them to have the same little 'donut' of brass at their base like the main latch post has. All 3 posts have this donut base on other Large Spectators I found, including those on horsekeeping (a reputable site, right?) Am I nuts? Just trying to learn, not trying to be a pill ;)
Here's an example where all 3 posts look the same (I have no affiliation with this auction, it's just a much higher res pic than those on horsekeeping): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooney-Bour...754496?hash=item2ca7bd2f40:g:Lx8AAOSwdvpWEW9O
 

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Could someone please authenticate this Goodwill find? Thank you!
Can you also tell me if there is something missing from the latch plate - it doesn't close securely. And would the correct replacement fob be the brass duck?

Item: Large Cavalry Spectator
Dimensions: 10"H, 9W, 2D

It's authentic.

It's hard to diagnose the latch plate without seeing both sides, front and back. It might just be that the weight of the flap of the bag pushes the larger round hole (the top part of the "keyhole") over the post, allowing it to slide out. Or the post could be loose.

As for which fob to use: the DB fob was used until sometime in 1988, and the brass duck fob was used after that. Based on the red white and blue label sewn inside your bag, it was made in 1988 or later. Therefore the duck fob would be appropriate. [http://www.ebay.com/gds/Dooney-Bour...L-Tack-Bags-PHOTOS-/10000000004594573/g.html]

Thanks so much Catbird9! That link is fab - bookmarked!

Here's the latch back and all parts seems tightly connected so I bet it's just the weight.
I just keep looking at the two smaller front latch posts, and wanting them to have the same little 'donut' of brass at their base like the main latch post has. All 3 posts have this donut base on other Large Spectators I found, including those on horsekeeping (a reputable site, right?) Am I nuts? Just trying to learn, not trying to be a pill ;)
Here's an example where all 3 posts look the same (I have no affiliation with this auction, it's just a much higher res pic than those on horsekeeping): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooney-Bour...754496?hash=item2ca7bd2f40:g:Lx8AAOSwdvpWEW9O
It's authentic.

I got the impression that the way you were describing the looseness was simply the way the male part moves within the female or that the top flap (portion with the female side of the hardware) slides a bit. And if that's the case, that's as it's supposed to be with that type of closure. (What's happening is exactly as Catbird described.)
 
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Thanks so much Catbird9! That link is fab - bookmarked!

Here's the latch back and all parts seems tightly connected so I bet it's just the weight.
I just keep looking at the two smaller front latch posts, and wanting them to have the same little 'donut' of brass at their base like the main latch post has. All 3 posts have this donut base on other Large Spectators I found, including those on horsekeeping (a reputable site, right?) Am I nuts? Just trying to learn, not trying to be a pill ;)
Here's an example where all 3 posts look the same (I have no affiliation with this auction, it's just a much higher res pic than those on horsekeeping): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooney-Bour...754496?hash=item2ca7bd2f40:g:Lx8AAOSwdvpWEW9O

I see what you mean. The two smaller rivet fronts on your bag are different from the other examples. The rivet backs do look like they are stamped Dooney Bourke, right? Speculating here: it may have just been a different rivet supplier or an early version of the rivet. Thanks for pointing that out, I'm still learning too!

Yes, Horsekeeping is a reputable vintage Dooney & Bourke seller.

ETA: I found two examples of Cavalry bags with what appear to be the "no donut" style of small rivets on the plate:

http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/CV/1050-trooper-sm-taupebt.htm
http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/CV/cavmini91.htm
 
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It's authentic.

I got the impression that the way you were describing the looseness was simply the way the male part moves within the female or that the top flap (portion with the female side of the hardware) slides a bit. And if that's the case, that's as it's supposed to be with that type of closure. (What's happening is exactly as Catbird described.)

You nailed it! I thought the sliding around meant some latch part was missing. Thanks for the confirmation!

I see what you mean. The two smaller rivet fronts on your bag are different from the other examples. The rivet backs do look like they are stamped Dooney Bourke, right? Speculating here: it may have just been a different rivet supplier or an early version of the rivet. Thanks for pointing that out, I'm still learning too!

Yes, Horsekeeping is a reputable vintage Dooney & Bourke seller.

ETA: I found two examples of Cavalry bags with what appear to be the "no donut" style of small rivets on the plate:

http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/CV/1050-trooper-sm-taupebt.htm
http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/CV/cavmini91.htm

Yep, my rivets are stamped Dooney Bourke on the back. And I also scrounged up a few examples of 'my' type of latch on Spectators and others in the Cavalry line, too. Thanks for all your help and follow-up!
 
The bag looks fine.

I found this listing that, although the seller doesn't show the inside, she does show the older DB (not duck) fob and the same feet. I believe that the rounded feet were on the original versions of carpet bags.
https://poshmark.com/listing/SOLDVintage-Dooney-Bourke-Carpet-Bag-55cbfb5ce1d65f1f79000d83

It looks authentic to me too. It's definitely not an Essex, though. It looks like a Small Carpet Bag, but without measurements, I can't be certain.

I agree with you about the feet, they are different from others of this style I've seen. For example, scroll down to the picture of the feet on this one:

http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/GRAB/906-GRAB-carpet-whitebt.htm

Thank you very much BeenBurned and Catbird. Have a nice Valentine's day, ladies
 
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