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@BB, here is the link to Etsy. It will say on top that item has sold but keep scrolling down and you will see the original listing. I don't get why the tabs on the side flaps appear to be permanently attached. The second is after "All Weather Leather" where is the Reserved symbol? And the back of my vintage Duck is...bare compared to that one.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/178534505/sale-vintage-dooney-and-bourke-big-duck
That's very interesting. If that bag is fake, it's one of the best I've ever seen.

Over the last 15 years, I've bought and sold at least 3 dozen duck bags and although there has been some variation over the years, as well as differences in the remakes Dooney did several years ago, I don't have a single example (in my records) with permanent rivets on the side, that type of pocket on the back nor the type of clip shown on the ends of the strap.

This is what I've seen (and have examples of), both on the vintage and on new versions. The palomino (yellow) is one of the newer remade versions and has differences from the originals (lining, single trim above back pocket) but there's no flap closure and the strap attaches as on the older versions.


ETA: I want to add that although there are differrences, I can't state authenticity without a few more better pictures.
 

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That's very interesting. If that bag is fake, it's one of the best I've ever seen.

I put the duck emblems side by side to compare them. To my eye there are significant differences:

1. Size of duck's pupil relative to eye
2. Shape of duck's neck
2. Ampersand in Dooney & Bourke
3. Spacing and size of letters
4. Missing trademark registration symbol

I don't have enough experience to conclude anything, but I agree, it's very interesting!
 

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I put the duck emblems side by side to compare them. To my eye there are significant differences:

1. Size of duck's pupil relative to eye
2. Shape of duck's neck
2. Ampersand in Dooney & Bourke
3. Spacing and size of letters
4. Missing trademark registration symbol

I don't have enough experience to conclude anything, but I agree, it's very interesting!
I absolutely LOVE side by sides!!

Your pictures are absolutely conclusive. The red big duck bag from Etsy is fake although it's definitely a scary close one.
 
That's very interesting. If that bag is fake, it's one of the best I've ever seen.

Over the last 15 years, I've bought and sold at least 3 dozen duck bags and although there has been some variation over the years, as well as differences in the remakes Dooney did several years ago, I don't have a single example (in my records) with permanent rivets on the side, that type of pocket on the back nor the type of clip shown on the ends of the strap.

This is what I've seen (and have examples of), both on the vintage and on new versions. The palomino (yellow) is one of the newer remade versions and has differences from the originals (lining, single trim above back pocket) but there's no flap closure and the strap attaches as on the older versions.


ETA: I want to add that although there are differrences, I can't state authenticity without a few more better pictures.

Quite fascinating, really it is. The stitching is classic hallmark Dooney...the duck on the front does not seem quite right to me, either. And when you zoomed in on the pics did you notice you can't make out a clear shot of where the clip attaches to the bag on the left side (the left side being your perspective looking at the computer screen).

I noticed for all the great clear shots they got vague posting the interior-the interiors of Doonies almost never fail to reveal the truth. I find it hilarious how interiors bewilder them so. I also keep in mind photography can be very tricky, indeed. I didn't see a tag...

Thank you for your time and attention and kiss your puppy for me! ��
 
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I absolutely LOVE side by sides!!

Your pictures are absolutely conclusive. The red big duck bag from Etsy is fake although it's definitely a scary close one.
Hey I did not see these posts until just now!!!

Disregard my above response. I guess I don't know what to say except no cash for fake stash.

@catbird, thanks for the great side by side. You got mad skillz, woman! I never liked that duck and when Dooney hot stamps that front piece into the leather the R symbol can't be " forgotten."

@BB, I DIE for your yellow new BD bag! How pretty!
 
Item: Vintage Dooney & Bourke Neiman Marcus Purse Red Pebbled Leather Shoulder Bag
Listing: 160716528480
Seller: little-bunny-foofoo
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Doo...f279b0&pid=100011&rk=4&rkt=10&sd=281702892868
Comment: Please note the "eyeless duck" emblem and the interior pocket. A very interesting bag if authentic. Any additional information appreciated. Thanks!

@catbird, not sure how I missed this! Quite the anomaly here, too! What bothers me on this one, besides the duck, is the bare zipper/interior. If D&B was gonna hook up and do a partnership with Neiman's, why leave out classic Dooney features? They certainly didn't with Disney! (scratches head) Their duck is iconic! Why the heck would they skimp on THAT of all things? :pullhair::confused1:
 
I put the duck emblems side by side to compare them. To my eye there are significant differences:

1. Size of duck's pupil relative to eye
2. Shape of duck's neck
2. Ampersand in Dooney & Bourke
3. Spacing and size of letters
4. Missing trademark registration symbol

I don't have enough experience to conclude anything, but I agree, it's very interesting!

Excellent catch...the ampersand I completely missed!
 
Guys, this frankenstein even got the seam right where the leather fits together in the back! I see it in the Etsy pics...do you?

Who is this mad man/lady?????? SHOW YOURSELF! Lol :police:

Wrote Dooney, may hear back...may not...
 

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@catbird, not sure how I missed this! Quite the anomaly here, too! What bothers me on this one, besides the duck, is the bare zipper/interior. If D&B was gonna hook up and do a partnership with Neiman's, why leave out classic Dooney features? They certainly didn't with Disney! (scratches head) Their duck is iconic! Why the heck would they skimp on THAT of all things? :pullhair::confused1:
This inside pocket may have been something Neiman Marcus insisted upon. Since Dooney & Bourke was relatively new, and Neiman Marcus was around a longer time, they may have promoted the Neiman Marcus name to sell to that clientele. I'll try to attach photos of the bag I have that's similar to this one. Mine is the same except for the D&B green patch, and the inside zipper has the word Clark, this one looks like the lettering YKK. My duck was also the earlier flat style, the eye is really hard to see, and the wording "All Weather Leather" is almost gone, probably from wear and tear 30+ years. This bag style is also on an ebay guide that I use freguently for information on vintage colors, and styles since Dooney did not have catalogs in the earlier years.
 

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I put the duck emblems side by side to compare them. To my eye there are significant differences:

1. Size of duck's pupil relative to eye
2. Shape of duck's neck
2. Ampersand in Dooney & Bourke
3. Spacing and size of letters
4. Missing trademark registration symbol

I don't have enough experience to conclude anything, but I agree, it's very interesting!
Catbird9 found this and posted it on Hall of Shame. I think they used the same mold
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