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Does Thredup take its own pictures of items for the site? I find it strange that all the listings have the same angles and same mannequin.

If they do their own pics (rather than the sellers), they need to make more pictures and more angles available in order for their listings to be authenticated.

With just 3 pictures, they aren't able to show the crucial details that listings need to show, i.e. (depending on brand), hardware, feet, linings, serial numbers, date codes, stitching, etc.

Note that there aren't any red flags in any of those 4 listings, but I personally wouldn't recommend buying from a site that doesn't show enough pictures for buyers to do their research and also from a site that (supposedly?) does its own authenticating and "inspecting."
 
Does Thredup take its own pictures of items for the site? I find it strange that all the listings have the same angles and same mannequin.

If they do their own pics (rather than the sellers), they need to make more pictures and more angles available in order for their listings to be authenticated.

With just 3 pictures, they aren't able to show the crucial details that listings need to show, i.e. (depending on brand), hardware, feet, linings, serial numbers, date codes, stitching, etc.

Note that there aren't any red flags in any of those 4 listings, but I personally wouldn't recommend buying from a site that doesn't show enough pictures for buyers to do their research and also from a site that (supposedly?) does its own authenticating and "inspecting."
Ok, thanks for the input. I think they do take all of the pictures. People send their things in, and they either pay for them upfront or consign them. I hate that they don't take more pictures, especially of the 'tiny stains' etc that they sometimes mention. Also, their bags are all marked as 'final sale'. I have emailed them asking how they are able to authenticate their bags, but I haven't heard back. Do you know if I happened to get a fake bag under a 'no return' policy, if I could argue for a return and even get my credit card company to back me? I have no experience here. Thanks again!
 
Ok, thanks for the input. I think they do take all of the pictures. People send their things in, and they either pay for them upfront or consign them. I hate that they don't take more pictures, especially of the 'tiny stains' etc that they sometimes mention. Also, their bags are all marked as 'final sale'. I have emailed them asking how they are able to authenticate their bags, but I haven't heard back. Do you know if I happened to get a fake bag under a 'no return' policy, if I could argue for a return and even get my credit card company to back me? I have no experience here. Thanks again!
It's illegal to sell fakes, whether sellers know and admit it's fake, claim not to know whether genuine or not, or if they outright lie.

The problem with sites like this (as has been seen on other sites that use their own "experts" - specifically, Vestiare Collective) is that they are often wrong. And many of the fakes are so obvious that a novice would recognize them as such.

So yes, you would have an absolutely legitimate case and if they refused to honor the return, your c.c. company would protect you.
 
Ok, I sincerely appreciate your help. I have been trying to do my own sleuthing, but I am no expert, and like you said, they don't give enough details/pictures for even you guys to authenticate. I hate that some of their prices are so reasonable--it makes it hard to resist looking at their bags!
I am curious to read their reply to my inquiry. I also asked if a return might be permitted if I was certain a bag was fake. It would be much easier if I didn't have to go to the extreme of filing a dispute with my c.c.
 
Ok, I sincerely appreciate your help. I have been trying to do my own sleuthing, but I am no expert, and like you said, they don't give enough details/pictures for even you guys to authenticate. I hate that some of their prices are so reasonable--it makes it hard to resist looking at their bags!
I am curious to read their reply to my inquiry. I also asked if a return might be permitted if I was certain a bag was fake. It would be much easier if I didn't have to go to the extreme of filing a dispute with my c.c.
Just so you know, I don't see any problems with any. I just don't like that there are so few pictures to prove authenticity as well as to show condition.
 
It's a barrel bag from either Nile or Bayou collection (from about 10 years ago). Both were croc-embossed leather and I'm not sure of what the difference was between Nile and Bayou.
I'm guessing the Nile was crocodile embossed, and the Bayou alligator embossed, but you would probably have to be an expert to tell the difference :D
 
https://www.etsy.com/listing/187943626/two-vintage-dooney-bourke-purses-norfolk?ref=favs_view_18

I don't normally look at Etsy for Dooneys because Etsy won't protect buyers from fake items, but I was just curious about the Norfolk in this listing, it appears to be fake. The stitching on the very bottom of the bag seems unusual for Dooney, and the feet on the bottom appear to be different from other Norfolk Dooneys.
The Norfolk wannabe is fake and the other bag, although lacking definitive pictures seems okay but isn't vintage (as required by Etsy). And you are correct. Etsy needs to be a lot more proactive in keeping its site and its members safe.
 
I'm guessing the Nile was crocodile embossed, and the Bayou alligator embossed, but you would probably have to be an expert to tell the difference :D

LOL! To me, crocodiles and alligators look alike! I can't tell the difference.

From what I think I figured out regarding the Dooney bags, the Nile pattern is a more square and geometric pattern whereas the Bayou pattern is rounder and less severe (if that makes sense).


Yuck! Fake!
 
LOL! To me, crocodiles and alligators look alike! I can't tell the difference.

From what I think I figured out regarding the Dooney bags, the Nile pattern is a more square and geometric pattern whereas the Bayou pattern is rounder and less severe (if that makes sense).



Yuck! Fake!
I believe you are correct, I have a vintage 1950's alligator bag, and the pattern has a circle pattern, with rounded off squares. I guess they used the names Nile and Bayou because alligators are in Louisiana's Bayous, and crocodiles are associated with Egypt and the Nile. Much more sophisticated I guess.:smile1:
 
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