In deference to the use of the word 'may' in, "J8Y may all be fake", from the fake number list, please verify/confirm this alleged fake.
J8Y-9181
Item:Vintage Red Leather Mini Hand Bag Coach USA MADE NO J8Y 9181
Item#:281322092099
Seller:$couture
URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Red...099?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item41801a7643
Fake. It has exactly the same serial number font as all the other J8Y- fakes.
The Whitney line didn't even come out until Spring of 2000 acoording to Coach's catalogs. The date code in the red bag is from September 1998, that's just too much of a gap. And while you can never depend completely on the style number sequence, most of the other style numbers before and after "9181" were all from 2000 or 2001.
The link may not work but I can take a screenshot of the page if you need it. Here's the March 2000 page of Coach's site from the Wayback Machine showing the Whitney line including the 9181 Mini Hobo as "New".
http://web.archive.org/web/20000303200437/http://www.coach.com/shop/category.asp?category_id=103