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katie_manx said:
That's really interesting! It makes me imagine the old-time Coach craftsmen experimenting with different-shaped tabs, or maybe certain people just made them their own unique way, and now, decades later, here we are wondering what it all meant. I love bags with history. Thank you, whateve! :)
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You're welcome! I can't think of any other detail on vintage bags that varies as much as those tabs. I wonder if each workman did it their own way or maybe they had some scraps of leather they wanted to use up so they made smaller tabs that day. I love to imagine the lives my bags had before I got them.
 
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Damselfly said:
I think I may have found a legitimate J8H

Please confirm - red Soho Belted Pouch

Item:AUTH VINTAGE RARE COACH #4156 "RED" Genuine Leather Shoulder Bag
Item#:261449720978
Seller:cassiekat39
Ebay:http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTH-VINTAG...978?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cdf9e2492
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I don't think it is authentic. I wish the creed picture were clearer. The H and dash don't have the distinctive qualities that all known authentic H factory creeds have. I have this bag with a E7H creed. The spacing of the words and the font are different on mine. The Coach lozenge doesn't have enough space above and below the logo. The stitches across the top of pocket are too big. The top of the pocket is too low. The shape of the pocket is too rounded. The leather on the top band inside the bag doesn't extend far enough below the stitching. I think the second line of stitching around the top of the bag is too low. There appears to be two lines of stitching across the inside bottom that my bag doesn't have.
 
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Two.time.bags said:
Thanks Hyacinth. I'm obviously getting my facts wrong. I thought that nickel wasn't introduced until 1999?
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No, it depended on the line and the leather color. The earliest I can find nickle hardware offered as an alternate to brass is sometime in early to mid 1998, EXCEPT on Spring/Summer 1997 Soho bags, according to the 1997 Spring catalog, and then only on a few colors like black, gray and lavender in Spring, and a few more in the 1997 Summer catalog. It was available about a year earlier on briefcases and available with Toffee & Pistachio on bags in early Spring 98 and with some new for 1998 styles like Neo. By 1999 it was pretty much available across the entire catalog but the original introduction was spread out over about 18 months.
 
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Damselfly said:
I think I may have found a legitimate J8H

Please confirm - red Soho Belted Pouch

Item:AUTH VINTAGE RARE COACH #4156 "RED" Genuine Leather Shoulder Bag
Item#:261449720978
Seller:cassiekat39
Ebay:http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTH-VINTAG...978?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cdf9e2492
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whateve said:
I don't think it is authentic. I wish the creed picture were clearer. The H and dash don't have the distinctive qualities that all known authentic H factory creeds have. I have this bag with a E7H creed. The spacing of the words and the font are different on mine. The Coach lozenge doesn't have enough space above and below the logo. The stitches across the top of pocket are too big. The top of the pocket is too low. The shape of the pocket is too rounded. The leather on the top band inside the bag doesn't extend far enough below the stitching. I think the second line of stitching around the top of the bag is too low. There appears to be two lines of stitching across the inside bottom that my bag doesn't have.
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Here are a few pictures of a genuine D7H-4156 to help illustrate Whateve's comments. Fake J8H- on the top, two different genuine D7H- on the bottom. I still can't find anything with a J8H- code that I'm sure is genuine. And by September 1998, most of the original Soho styles had been phased out except for 3 or 4 styles and 4156 doesn't seem to have been one of them, and it looks like they were being made almost exclusively in Costa Rica.
 

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Hyacinth said:
No, it depended on the line and the leather color. The earliest I can find nickle hardware offered as an alternate to brass is sometime in early to mid 1998, EXCEPT on Spring/Summer 1997 Soho bags, according to the 1997 Spring catalog, and then only on a few colors like black, gray and lavender in Spring, and a few more in the 1997 Summer catalog. It was available about a year earlier on briefcases and available with Toffee & Pistachio on bags in early Spring 98 and with some new for 1998 styles like Neo. By 1999 it was pretty much available across the entire catalog but the original introduction was spread out over about 18 months.
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Thanks for clarifying that, Hyacinth.
 
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Hyacinth said:
No, it depended on the line and the leather color. The earliest I can find nickle hardware offered as an alternate to brass is sometime in early to mid 1998, EXCEPT on Spring/Summer 1997 Soho bags, according to the 1997 Spring catalog, and then only on a few colors like black, gray and lavender in Spring, and a few more in the 1997 Summer catalog. It was available about a year earlier on briefcases and available with Toffee & Pistachio on bags in early Spring 98 and with some new for 1998 styles like Neo. By 1999 it was pretty much available across the entire catalog but the original introduction was spread out over about 18 months.
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Thanks for clarifying that, Hyacinth.
 
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