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Tenny said:
Hi -

Can someone tell me what this is, please?

Item: Vintage COACH black Leather drawstring Shoulder Bag Womens Purse- No.0042-311
Listing number: 300918633465
Seller: briandorch
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...465?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item461025f3f9

Comments: It's probably just the way the drawstring has gathered the leather, but it doesn't look familiar.

Thanks very much!
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Hyacinth said:
It looks like a Delancy Drawstring, style number 4122 from the Lightweights/Soho line, Spring 1993.
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Speaking of bad information, this seller removed this listing because someone told him it was fake.
 
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#1,368
Originally Posted by Tenny View Post
Hi -

Can someone tell me what this is, please?

Item: Vintage COACH black Leather drawstring Shoulder Bag Womens Purse- No.0042-311
Listing number: 300918633465
Seller: briandorch
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COAC...item461025f3f9

Comments: It's probably just the way the drawstring has gathered the leather, but it doesn't look familiar.

Thanks very much!
Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
It looks like a Delancy Drawstring, style number 4122 from the Lightweights/Soho line, Spring 1993.


whateve said:
Speaking of bad information, this seller removed this listing because someone told him it was fake.
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Oh, for Pete's Sake - what the H*** is WRONG with people??? :censor:

Do you know if anyone else contacted the seller to tell them it was genuine?
 
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Hyacinth said:
Originally Posted by Tenny View Post
Hi -

Can someone tell me what this is, please?

Item: Vintage COACH black Leather drawstring Shoulder Bag Womens Purse- No.0042-311
Listing number: 300918633465
Seller: briandorch
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COAC...item461025f3f9

Comments: It's probably just the way the drawstring has gathered the leather, but it doesn't look familiar.

Thanks very much!
Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
It looks like a Delancy Drawstring, style number 4122 from the Lightweights/Soho line, Spring 1993.




Oh, for Pete's Sake - what the H*** is WRONG with people??? :censor:

Do you know if anyone else contacted the seller to tell them it was genuine?
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I told the seller the purse forum had determined it was authentic but I never heard back.
 
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BeenBurned said:
Although I recommend the Salearea guides that Hyacinth wrote, I did find the guide recommended by the seller.

This is the guide that the seller recommends. While it's not as bad as some, it does contain some information that's only partially correct:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Authentic-COACH-Purse-Myths-Facts-amp-Fiction/10000000005259376/g.html

A couple of corrections I'll comment on are:

Guide states:

1.

  • FICTION: Coach never uses signature lining.
    • FACT: Sometimes Coach uses lining with the entire name on the lining.
CORRECTION: Although Coach uses lozenge lining as described in the guide, it also DOES use signature lining on some bags.

2.

  • FICTION: Fake Coach handbags do not have authenticity numbers.
    • FACT: Replica bags have serial numbers, but have a different number sequence. In fact, fake Coach bags often come with tags! The outside of the tags looks like a typical Coach tag, but the inside does not have the following: a barcode, style numbers inside, description, color or the price.
CORRECTION: Although fakes often have invalid serial numbers, they also can have legitimate numbers, sometimes even a valid serial number for the style that it's trying to copy.


3.


  • FICTION: Serial numbers confirm authenticity.
    • FACT: The numbers inside Coach handbags are actually used to inform Coach what is being sold and how often, in other words, it counts inventory and/or handbag popularity.
CORRECTION: Although serial numbers do NOT confirm authenticity, correctly described as "fiction," the author's "fact" is total nonsense!




4.


  • FACT: Many Coach handbags are made in china, as are many other high-end designer items, but Coach is NEVER manufactured in Korea.
CORRECTION: Although no Coach bags are made in Korea, some wearables are made there.



5.

  • FACT: Coach will attempt to repair all of their handbags, including handbags that have been discontinued. If you purchase a new or pre-owned bag that does not have the registration, you can go to Coach.com and obtain a registration form from the website. You can even switch ownership of a bag with the registration card.
CORRECTION: Coach has not had a repair service nor registration cards for years.

6.

  • FACT: Retail department stores are employees of that particular department store and not Coach employees; therefore, are unable to confirm or deny authenticity of a handbag. They can compare the handbags to what they have in stock, but they are not trained Coach employees.
CORRECTION: Coach store employees are not trained to authenticate nor will they confirm authenticity either. In fact, when told that items are online/reseller purchases, they've been known to knowingly lie and tell customers that an item is fake, when in fact, it's genuine.

7.

  • FACT: As long as you have your Coach receipt, you can return items up to 1 year after purchase as long as it's been unused, undamaged, and still in the condition in which it was purchased.
CORRECTION: Coach actually has a more generous return policy than stated above as "fact." Coach doesn't have any expiration date for returns with receipts.





MY EDITORIAL COMMENT:



The problem with many "authenticity guides" floating around the internet is that they can contain partially correct information, outdated and obsolete information or they can have totally inaccurate "facts" that cause people to believe that fakes are authentic and/or that authentic items are fake.


The accuracy and trustworthiness of any guide is only as good as the diligence of its author.
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You're amazing, BB. :dothewave:
 
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Hi! I'm dipping my toe into purse collecting and just trying to become a more informed used Coach buyer in general. I'm pretty sure that these bags are authentic bags just from what I've read (from here and around), but I'd love confirmation of what I'm thinking.

Item #1: Mini Signature C Duffle bag in teal with teal suede. Manufactured for the factory store in June 2007?




Item #2: Small Hobo in black canvas with white and pink leather trim. Manufactured in December 2002?




Item #3: Mini Signature C hobo in brown with dark brown leather trim. Manufactured in March 2003? The lack of a 0 in front of the 3 is throwing me a little -- except I seem to recall that the 0s didn't come until 2004?




Item #4: Hamptons Large Pebbled Leather Carry All in bone and burgundy. That is an E at the beginning there. Manufactured in May 2006 and then sent to the factory due to flaw or clearance?


 
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charlottevz said:
Hi! I'm dipping my toe into purse collecting and just trying to become a more informed used Coach buyer in general. I'm pretty sure that these bags are authentic bags just from what I've read (from here and around), but I'd love confirmation of what I'm thinking.

Item #1: Mini Signature C Duffle bag in teal with teal suede. Manufactured for the factory store in June 2007?




Item #2: Small Hobo in black canvas with white and pink leather trim. Manufactured in December 2002?




Item #3: Mini Signature C hobo in brown with dark brown leather trim. Manufactured in March 2003? The lack of a 0 in front of the 3 is throwing me a little -- except I seem to recall that the 0s didn't come until 2004?




Item #4: Hamptons Large Pebbled Leather Carry All in bone and burgundy. That is an E at the beginning there. Manufactured in May 2006 and then sent to the factory due to flaw or clearance?


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All genuine, and your reasons are correct on all counts.
 
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whateve said:
Speaking of bad information, this seller removed this listing because someone told him it was fake.
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Aw, shoot...

As I have mentioned elsewhere on TPF, I've been collecting info about Coach bags for a long time. I actually get excited when I find something "new" - and this one was new to me. I was thrilled to add the info about it to my "stash".

Now, I just feel bad that someone felt the (stoopid???) need to tell the seller this bag was not authentic...Why do people do such dumb stuff? I feel that I owe that seller an apology for bringing the bag to the "wrong" person's attention.
 
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