Thank you!!! My sister says I'm nuts for buying it off ebay since I can't return it if I change my mind down the road.
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Thank you!!! My sister says I'm nuts for buying it off ebay since I can't return it if I change my mind down the road.
Keep in mind that as much as ebay wants to be like a B&M store, many sellers are small-time sellers who can't afford to take returns like department stores. But OTOH, you're not paying department store prices either and often buying items that are no longer available in stores, i.e., discontinued, limited edition, HTF, etc.
If an item is SNAD though, you will always have the option of opening a dispute. It doesn't matter if a seller has a no return policy if she sells a fake or an item that isn't accurately described.
Ebay, Bonanza, Malleries, Ruby Lane, and many other online selling sites are generally safe and you can find good deals.
As for buying an item that down the road you no longer want, you can always resell it yourself! Isn't that what you'd do if you purchased from Macy's and a couple of years later, decided that you don't use it any more?
Title: COACH Rustic Vintage NY USA Brown Leather Briefcase Attache Laptop Bag Mens
Seller: preppyinconnecticut
Item number: 360745421162
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Rusti...45421162?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item53fe1a496a
Comments: The seller may be one of ebay's "protected" but she has several current and completed fake Coach keychains so in checking her other listings, I found this briefcase.
The creed looks really off to me. The trim and stitching look messy and the lining appears to be different than the other. The text is also different from every other ebay listings for the same style.
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I haven't seen a creed quite like that one before. By that time in 1995 that plant should have had a standard creed stamp available that didn't have all those gaps. I don't know if they had to use different stamps depending on whether or not the creed was stamped onto the inside pocket or onto a patch, but yours is an H5D- and they obviously had a standard "new" creed stamp the month before, see below. I've seen a few other serial number stamps with that mix of 2 fonts before though.
You may want to ask Noshoepolish about this one.
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I think many people advertise as 'vintage' on eBay simply because it classifies all the older style leather bags together. That way buyers can just go straight to the type bags they are interested in rather than plow through the plethora of new (especially MFF) bags that are listed nowadays. Really hasn't much to do with specific age or being 20 years old. While not always accurate, it is convenient.
Thanks Hyacinth! I've fallen hard for this particular line of coach Italian bags
There's a gorgeous red madison drake on ebay now but i sorta busted my budget collecting the italian madisons for now (international shipping is a killer!). Will list it up on the Coach find thread for any TPFers who would love to make a bid for it.
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Hmm. Your picture is from just a month before and was made in the same plant. The font, spacing, quality of the creed/stitching/imprint, etc. are all very different from the listing in question.
I hope NSP chimes in.
I can appreciate that but to me it's like old cars. There are very specific time limits for each category, and you can't technically call something "vintage" just because it's a few years old.
"Vintage" and references to Bonnie Cashin in Coach listing titles or descriptions are badly overused and abused and give the impression that a bag is a lot older and maybe more valuable than it actually is. With a lot more people looking for true vintage bags than there were ten or even five years ago, it's becoming a big problem.
A lot of sellers who can't be bothered checking on a bag's actual age really abuse the word. Like the one mentioned here a week or two ago with a Made-in-China Coach bag from around 2003 who was not only calling it Vintage, but claiming it was made in the 60s or 70s. If people can't be bothered to figure out a bag's actual age, they're not going to be bothered with any kind of authentication either. Just throwing a fake name or term that is supposed to describe the item's age onto something that doesn't fit that description isn't a very responsible thing to do. Some sellers seem to think that it's vintage if it's not in the stores anymore!
Anyone running a business selling a certain kind of name-brand item needs to know something about the item, for the customer's sake AND the seller's. JMO, of course. I like to see things kept organized, and although I DO search Ebay for "vintage" it really frosts my buns to find a bunch of bags that are barely old enough for Coach Kindergarten.
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To muddy the waters even further, there are quite a few Coach items that have the word "vintage" in the item's name, like the Chelsea vintage mineral satchel from 2007.
LOL..Yeah..I hear ya! There is also the catch phrase 'Vintage Leather'. Many take that to mean Vintage BAG. I'm not sure when the vintage leather thing came about or what line it is was on .As for automobiles, I saw one recently that was made in the '70's advertised as Antique! Wow..that really makes a lot of us 'Antiques' too!
I've been figuring that there were at least two different "D" stamps going at any given time.
I've attached photos of some sample "D" plant creeds. You can see the hyphen coming & going, and the different type styles. I have a lot of photos, month by month, and there always seem to be 2 styles going...
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Those images are very different from the one I posted. This picture has the puffiness and weird spacing often seen on fakes, And the font is very different.
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Sorry, BeenBurned, I was just commenting on the question of whether there was more than one stamp at the plant.Those images are very different from the one I posted. This picture has the puffiness and weird spacing often seen on fakes, And the font is very different.
Here's the pic again:
I agree, yours looks very different. I've seen a few similar stamps on creeds before - what I call the "big period" stamps, because when the creed gets that puffy, the punctuation looks huge - and have assumed they were NOT authentic, but I don't have any "D" plant examples.
I purchase this British tan Court Bag on eBay from seller mandy09615 eBay item #221289114820 that I need another opinion on.
There is a clear picture if the Mexico creed H9N-9870 in the listing and everything looked ok, but when I received the bag I noticed a difference in the shape of the top piping around the pocket under the flap- it appears more rounded than any other court bag I've seen before. Is it possible the Mexico plant just made it a little differently? I have it pictured next to genuine black court bag to show the difference in shape.
Thanks!
http://imageshack.com/i/0ry8idj
There is a clear picture if the Mexico creed H9N-9870 in the listing and everything looked ok, but when I received the bag I noticed a difference in the shape of the top piping around the pocket under the flap- it appears more rounded than any other court bag I've seen before. Is it possible the Mexico plant just made it a little differently? I have it pictured next to genuine black court bag to show the difference in shape.
Thanks!
http://imageshack.com/i/0ry8idj
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