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-flawless- said:
Beenburned, thank you so much! :)
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You're welcome.
whateve said:
In case I didn't make myself clear, my comments bolded above were referring to the fake, not the other one with the brown lining.
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I wasn't sure which you were referring to but in case a lurker might have thought the other was fake, I just wanted to make sure it didn't get reported.
whateve said:
Name: Womens Coach Signature Print Belt Brown Custom Fitting Coach Belt Buckle
Womens Coach Monogram Signature C Print Belt Custom Fitting Coach Belt Buckle
Seller: littlemargie0
Item Number: 231032788101, 330990585385
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Coac...88101?pt=US_Women_s_Belts&hash=item35caa09485, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Coac...85385?pt=US_Women_s_Belts&hash=item4d10938629
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The belts (current listings) are fake.

Note that seller littlemargie0 also already sold 5 of them in a rainbow of colors. I wonder how many more she has!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...12.TRC2.A0.Xbelt&_nkw=belt&_sacat=0&_from=R40
 
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BeenBurned said:
You're welcome.

I wasn't sure which you were referring to but in case a lurker might have thought the other was fake, I just wanted to make sure it didn't get reported.

The belts (current listings) are fake.

Note that seller littlemargie0 also already sold 5 of them in a rainbow of colors. I wonder how many more she has!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...12.TRC2.A0.Xbelt&_nkw=belt&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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Thanks. I figured they were fake. They are pretty ugly!
 
#4,130
Beccabaglady said:
Hello everyone! I think Joodlz' Coach-icane (or was it a Coach-nado) has been swirling through my neighborhood the last week or so ;) Picked up these two today and would love to have an opinion! I'll do two separate posts.

First up, a little one! Thought DD could use this for school this year.

Item Name: ??
Seller: Local Thrift
Seller ID: N/A
Link: N/A

Thanks!!
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Beccabaglady said:
Here's the second one. Still trying to decide if I will keep it, but I couldn't pass it up at this price!

Item Name: ??
Seller ID: Goodwill
Item #: N/A
Link: N/A

Thanks everyone!
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Coach-icane...Coach-nado...LOLOLOL...Thanks for the morning giggle...great bags, congrats!
 
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WONDERFUL! My girls will be getting some rehabbed bags for Christmas! Thank You very much.




Would love some heads up on this combo auction. There are 3 Coach purses and a wallet. I won it, but if they're fake I'll start squawking.

Michael Kors Coach Fossil
quickshipem
130961496084
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130961496084...84.m1439.l2649

They are in rough shape, but I hope I can do the rehab and restore thing.

W
The Coaches and the LeSportsac are all ok.
 
#4,137
Beccabaglady said:
Hyacinth, did Coach assign letters to plants in order? Would Italy have been the fifth plant since it was E?
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Maybe in the very beginning, but with bags they probably skipped some letters since they started to use M in 1994 but other earlier letters like J and K weren't used on a regular basis until years later. And some letters may not have been used at all or at least not for handbags. I'm sure that plants that only made items without stamped serial numbers, such as scarves, belts, gloves, etc, also had assigned plant codes but we'll probably never know what they were.

But the first 4 letters seem to have been for US or US Territory plants - we know there was one in Puerto Rico but that would have had one of the US codes, B, C or D.

They also sometimes re-assigned codes from closed plants to newly opened ones. Code "M" has been a traveler and used for both US and Costa Rica and a few of the China codes like J and K may have been used for plants in the West making mostly business and travel items before being relocated to China. There are also a few plants like Costa Rica, Italy and Turkey (P,E and 2) that seem to have been kept open straight through to the early 2000s and AFAIK those codes should never show up in bags from any other locations, but that can always change if we find more evidence.

The "A" plant code is a good example - reliable sources have said that the A plant, the original NYC location, was closed once newer plants came on line, but we've recently found evidence of genuine bags from the 90s with that code, some may have been Pilot or sample bags but others seem like they were made as normal production items, some were limited production and some may just have been scattered orders that other plants couldn't fill at the time. So "A" is now considered a valid code but with qualifications and they need to be authenticated carefully.


The whole plant code history is pretty muddled and we'll probably never figure it out accurately. Remember, like almost all other information on creeds and serial numbers and other info used in authenticating, NONE of this information comes from Coach. It's all been put together over years and years by Coachies and can change if we find new examples that seem genuine. That's why there will never be a "Definitive Guide to Coach Plant Codes", there's just no way we'd ever be able to find and verify all that information. So using plant codes to authenticate has to be done very cautiously.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Maybe in the very beginning, but with bags they probably skipped some letters since they started to use M in 1994 but other earlier letters like J and K weren't used on a regular basis until years later. And some letters may not have been used at all or at least not for handbags. I'm sure that plants that only made items without stamped serial numbers, such as scarves, belts, gloves, etc, also had assigned plant codes but we'll probably never know what they were.

But the first 4 letters seem to have been for US or US Territory plants - we know there was one in Puerto Rico but that would have had one of the US codes, B, C or D.

They also sometimes re-assigned codes from closed plants to newly opened ones. Code "M" has been a traveler and used for both US and Costa Rica and a few of the China codes like J and K may have been used for plants in the West making mostly business and travel items before being relocated to China. There are also a few plants like Costa Rica, Italy and Turkey (P,E and 2) that seem to have been kept open straight through to the early 2000s and AFAIK those codes should never show up in bags from any other locations, but that can always change if we find more evidence.

The "A" plant code is a good example - reliable sources have said that the A plant, the original NYC location, was closed once newer plants came on line, but we've recently found evidence of genuine bags from the 90s with that code, some may have been Pilot or sample bags but others seem like they were made as normal production items, some were limited production and some may just have been scattered orders that other plants couldn't fill at the time. So "A" is now considered a valid code but with qualifications and they need to be authenticated carefully.


The whole plant code history is pretty muddled and we'll probably never figure it out accurately. Remember, like almost all other information on creeds and serial numbers and other info used in authenticating, NONE of this information comes from Coach. It's all been put together over years and years by Coachies and can change if we find new examples that seem genuine. That's why there will never be a "Definitive Guide to Coach Plant Codes", there's just no way we'd ever be able to find and verify all that information. So using plant codes to authenticate has to be done very cautiously.
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Still waiting for an official word on the weird Italian creeds and the other issue we discussed. I'll update when and if I here something.
 
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