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SEWDimples said:
Good Evening Ladies,

This is my very first post on tpf so please forgive me if I make a mistake.
Please authenticate this two Coach Vintage bags for me.

Item: Coach Black Leather Gracie Kelly Handbag Should Bag Italy
Listing number: 271077815946
Seller: elmandorf
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Black...946?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3f1d7f368a


Item: Coach Italy
Listing number: 300796928410
Seller: elktonshop19
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300796928410

Item: COACH ~ITALY~ Vintage Dark Brown Leather Gracie Satchel Handbag #4413 EXCELLENT!
Listing number: 261110200704
Seller: thecoachexpress
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-ITALY...704?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3ccb617980


Comments: I have several Coach bags from early 90s, but I'm not sure about any of these vintage bags. Let me know if you need more pictures. Also, any additional information would be helpful. I really appreciate your help. :smile1:
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Welcome to the Purse Forum.

#1. Authentic Madison Biltmore.

#2. Authentic Madison Biltmore WITHOUT the shoulder strap.

#3. Authentic Madison Gracie WITHOUT the shoulder strap.

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"Hyacinth is the expert on creeds. Wait for her comments.

It looks 'off" to me."

Thanks, DemRam.

"I'm pretty sure it's ok. There have been a lot of bags with the same style serial number and they've looked genuine."

Thanks once again, Hyacinth.


 
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Rarity said:
"Hyacinth is the expert on creeds. Wait for her comments.

It looks 'off" to me."

Thanks, DemRam.

"I'm pretty sure it's ok. There have been a lot of bags with the same style serial number and they've looked genuine."

Thanks once again, Hyacinth.


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Like anything else where there's not a lot of solid evidence, sometimes we just can't be sure if something's real or not.
 
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newer wallet styles aren't my area of expertise, such as it is... I think from what details I am seeing it is authentic but not sure. If there's a chance of someone knowing it's name and/or approx age I'd love to know. Thanks so much.

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Rarity said:
Thanks. I know there are services that authenticate higher end bags. Do you know of any where I could send the bag to have it authenticated?
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Not for older Coaches. I've never found any service that actually studied variations in the creeds and serial numbers like we do here. You're getting a free service here that you'd pay between 10 and 20 dollars for on the outside, and your chances of getting an accurate answer are a lot better here. And I'm sorry if this sounds arrogant, but there are very few people who understand enough about Coach serial numbers to make a valid judgement, and with that bag, the authentication hangs on the serial number stamping. Right now none of us knows if it's real or not because there aren't any KNOWN genuine ones exactly like that. If one or two turn up, then we have something to base an opinion on. There's a lot more to authenticating a Coach than just looking at one or two parts of the bag.

Sometimes all you can do is wait and hope that I get more information on that specific creed and serial stamping. If you own it and want to sell it, try to hang on to it for another 3 or 6 months and then ask me again. Meanwhile I'll try to find more with that same stamp.

EDITED TO ADD - I'm looking at these with the same prefix:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...5?pt=US_CSA_MWA_Backpacks&hash=item4d05dba2cf

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINT-VINTAG...235?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2ebb55317b
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Class...429?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item255fc6f955

They all have the same prefix and all serial number stamping styles are identical. To me that's about a 90 percent chance that they're genuine. If I could find something like an Outlet stamp - normally those aren't solid proof since newer ones have been faked but in older bags they're more believable - that would make it about a 99 percent certainty in my mind.

More opinions are welcome.
 
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