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Thanks, Hyacinth. I have that guide saved but read it again. I'm sorry, but I can't find the part you're referring to that would explain why this number is wrong. I'm sure I'm just missing it right in from of my eyes. If you could highlight it or quote it for me, I would appreciate it.

"...The major change came in 1994. Production codes and the bag’s style number now became part of the serial. The first digit was the month code, always a letter of the alphabet and supposed to include only A through M, although a few mistakes were made and a rare “N” might slip through. (The letter “i” was avoided because it was too easy to confuse it with the number 1.) The second digit, always a number, was the year the bag was made. Since the new formatting began in 1994, “4” was the first year code used, and single digits would continue to be used for a decade - “0” for the year 2000, “3” for 2003, etc. In 2004 a Zero was added to differentiate between 1994 and 2004 and to match the actual year abbreviation, and that continues to the present with the Zero changing to a One in 2010 so that the code for 2010 is “10”. The year code is still the 2 center digits in the first half of the serial number.

The third or last digit was the plant code, originally a letter of the alphabet but with the expansion to Turkey, China and beyond, Coach ran out of letters and began using single numbers. Since the original New York City plant was closed before the new codes began, there should never be any number with an “A” code. “B, C and D” stood for the US plants that took over from the NYC plant..."


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Desc:Coach Legacy Leather Baguette Purse EUC
Item No.180803191098
Seller: reinell92
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Legac...098?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2a18b5c13a
Comment: is this a patch in the purse..i am assuming there should be a creed as well...havent emailed seller, just thought the coach patch inside looked odd?
It looks okay to me. This is a smaller (accessories) item. Some of Coach's smaller items such as wristlets, swingpacks, pouches, cosmetic cases, etc. may or may not have creeds. Those with creeds may or may not have serial numbers.

The bag in this listing (and the seller's other items) looks okay.
 
"...The major change came in 1994. Production codes and the bag’s style number now became part of the serial. The first digit was the month code, always a letter of the alphabet and supposed to include only A through M, although a few mistakes were made and a rare “N” might slip through. (The letter “i” was avoided because it was too easy to confuse it with the number 1.) The second digit, always a number, was the year the bag was made. Since the new formatting began in 1994, “4” was the first year code used, and single digits would continue to be used for a decade - “0” for the year 2000, “3” for 2003, etc. In 2004 a Zero was added to differentiate between 1994 and 2004 and to match the actual year abbreviation, and that continues to the present with the Zero changing to a One in 2010 so that the code for 2010 is “10”. The year code is still the 2 center digits in the first half of the serial number.

The third or last digit was the plant code, originally a letter of the alphabet but with the expansion to Turkey, China and beyond, Coach ran out of letters and began using single numbers. Since the original New York City plant was closed before the new codes began, there should never be any number with an “A” code. “B, C and D” stood for the US plants that took over from the NYC plant..."


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I totally missed that "A." Wow. So this is a fake? I guess I'm surprised because for some reason, I think of fakes as being in better shape than this very used bag.
 
item # 140677813642
ID Christines1220
NWT Coach gathered tote


and also this one I am curious about as well.


Madison gathered Lindsey 18643
item #110811762256
seller tleangel

I realize the creed patch is difficult to read, but are there fakes that look this good and are?
Thank You in advance for your help! Boy am I getting the education on this site.... great :)



 
Welcome to tPF. You did great for your first post. Many people find it confusing and don't know where to post. You found the right place and did the correct posting format!

The glasses and the seller's other listings appear to be fine although the writing on the insides of both arms should be shown.

As long as the seller's pictures are his own, I think you'll do fine.

Awesome! Thank you so much for the info and warm welcome! I'm probably going to go ahead and order them in the next two weeks :D

\m/ Gem
 
Originally Posted by Hyacinth "...The major change came in 1994. Production codes and the bag’s style number now became part of the serial. The first digit was the month code, always a letter of the alphabet and supposed to include only A through M, although a few mistakes were made and a rare “N” might slip through. (The letter “i” was avoided because it was too easy to confuse it with the number 1.) The second digit, always a number, was the year the bag was made. Since the new formatting began in 1994, “4” was the first year code used, and single digits would continue to be used for a decade - “0” for the year 2000, “3” for 2003, etc. In 2004 a Zero was added to differentiate between 1994 and 2004 and to match the actual year abbreviation, and that continues to the present with the Zero changing to a One in 2010 so that the code for 2010 is “10”. The year code is still the 2 center digits in the first half of the serial number.

The third or last digit was the plant code, originally a letter of the alphabet but with the expansion to Turkey, China and beyond, Coach ran out of letters and began using single numbers. Since the original New York City plant was closed before the new codes began, there should never be any number with an “A” code. “B, C and D” stood for the US plants that took over from the NYC plant..."


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I totally missed that "A." Wow. So this is a fake? I guess I'm surprised because for some reason, I think of fakes as being in better shape than this very used bag.

A lot of classic leather fakes were surprisingly well made and lasted a reasonably long time. But it looks like whoever owned this gave it to her dog to play with.
 
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