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#5,057
IrisCole said:
Item: Vintage Coach Willis
Listing number: --
Seller: --
Link: --
Comments: I took photos of all of the markings that I could see, though if additional pictures are needed, please just let me know! Thank you!

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Beautiful! It is the "Station Bag" from 1995.


Not sure of the color.

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#5,059
BMakHoor said:
I think I may have a fake Coach wallet. Can you tell me if, on every snap, the word "Coach" should appear? Also, do the wallet zippers also have the YKK on them?
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BMakHoor said:
Could someone tell me if this is a fake? It "feels" fake...I just need confirmation before I confront the seller.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lethalkiss20/6540696783/in/photostream

Can you see those pics?
(Still trying to figure out posting pics with a mac...)
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I'm sorry but you have a fake wallet. Yes, you MUST tell the seller that you want a full refund.

Regarding zippers, the brand of zipper has nothing to do with authenticity. Some authentic wallets and bags have YKK and others have different brands of zippers. And most fakes have zippers that are marked as YKK, but they may or may not even be authentic YKK zippers.

Please post the link to the listing from which you purchased. (See post #1 of the thread for the requested format. It's helpful in identifying and searching seller IDs and listings.)
 
#5,061
BeenBurned said:
I'm sorry but you have a fake wallet. Yes, you MUST tell the seller that you want a full refund.

Regarding zippers, the brand of zipper has nothing to do with authenticity. Some authentic wallets and bags have YKK and others have different brands of zippers. And most fakes have zippers that are marked as YKK, but they may or may not even be authentic YKK zippers.

Please post the link to the listing from which you purchased. (See post #1 of the thread for the requested format. It's helpful in identifying and searching seller IDs and listings.)
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Here is the link to the listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/32080920516...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_728wt_1151

Thanks for your help. What about the wallet gives it away for you?
 
#5,062
BMakHoor said:
I think I may have a fake Coach wallet. Can you tell me if, on every snap, the word "Coach" should appear? Also, do the wallet zippers also have the YKK on them?
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BMakHoor said:
Could someone tell me if this is a fake? It "feels" fake...I just need confirmation before I confront the seller.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lethalkiss20/6540696783/in/photostream

Can you see those pics?
(Still trying to figure out posting pics with a mac...)
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BeenBurned said:
I'm sorry but you have a fake wallet. Yes, you MUST tell the seller that you want a full refund.

Regarding zippers, the brand of zipper has nothing to do with authenticity. Some authentic wallets and bags have YKK and others have different brands of zippers. And most fakes have zippers that are marked as YKK, but they may or may not even be authentic YKK zippers.

Please post the link to the listing from which you purchased. (See post #1 of the thread for the requested format. It's helpful in identifying and searching seller IDs and listings.)
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BMakHoor said:
Here is the link to the listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/32080920516...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_728wt_1151

Thanks for your help. What about the wallet gives it away for you?
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Seller: thewoodfloorspecialist

In the future, please be very careful when purchasing Coach wallets. There are some styles that are "well-faked" and it's often very difficult to authenticate. Therefore, we often recommend buying from established sellers with a proven history of selling only authentic items.

However, in this case, although a highly faked style, many of which are well-faked, your wallet wasn't one of them. The most obvious problem with this wallet is the front pattern. It should be perfectly centered with the pattern's mirror image being on both sides of the vertical strip of leather.

There are lots of problems with the wallet but that's the most obvious. Another problem is that the coin pocket is incorrect.

I've attached a pictures of the authentic version of style 6058, the style which I think thewoodfloorspecialist's listing was trying to copy. Compare to your item:






BTW, you are welcome to refer the seller here if she wants to ask questions. IMO, the seller should refund your full payment (INCLUDING shipping) and should just tell you to dispose of the fake. If she wants it returned, return shipping should be at the seller's expense but it's a waste of money because she can't resell it.
 
#5,064
BeenBurned said:
Seller: thewoodfloorspecialist

In the future, please be very careful when purchasing Coach wallets. There are some styles that are "well-faked" and it's often very difficult to authenticate. Therefore, we often recommend buying from established sellers with a proven history of selling only authentic items.

However, in this case, although a highly faked style, many of which are well-faked, your wallet wasn't one of them. The most obvious problem with this wallet is the front pattern. It should be perfectly centered with the pattern's mirror image being on both sides of the vertical strip of leather.

There are lots of problems with the wallet but that's the most obvious. Another problem is that the coin pocket is incorrect.

I've attached a pictures of the authentic version of style 6058, the style which I think thewoodfloorspecialist's listing was trying to copy. Compare to your item:






BTW, you are welcome to refer the seller here if she wants to ask questions. IMO, the seller should refund your full payment (INCLUDING shipping) and should just tell you to dispose of the fake. If she wants it returned, return shipping should be at the seller's expense but it's a waste of money because she can't resell it.
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Thank you =) The seller seemed genuinely surprised (but I am sure they all do...) and has offered a full refund. He did ask why it was a fake though, so I wanted to have something to tell him other than "it feels fake". lol
Thanks again!
 
#5,065
BMakHoor said:
Thank you =) The seller seemed genuinely surprised (but I am sure they all do...) and has offered a full refund. He did ask why it was a fake though, so I wanted to have something to tell him other than "it feels fake". lol
Thanks again!
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Refer him here.

The thing is that honest mistake or not, the seller is responsible. Sellers MUST know that any item is authentic BEFORE listing and if the seller doesn't know for sure, they must verify and confirm authenticity.

In this case, it's not even a "good" fake and the seller could have saved himself the hassle of a return, the damage to his reputation for having sold a fake and if the listing is reported and removed, he'll have a "counterfeit" ding on his ebay account record.
 
#5,066
anabg said:
Hi. Can someone authenticate in the next half hour or so? Bid is ending. Thank you.

Item. :GENUINE RARE!!!VINTAGE COACH LEATHER ZIP #NO.003-1015 MED.SZ.CRS BODY/MESG

Item number: 250942031556

Seller: kettlehutskorner

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-RAR..._WH_Handbags&hash=item3a6d4f86c4#ht_892wt_922
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It's genuine, I'll look for the name if you won it.

This part isn't right though, the serial numbers were NOT given in any kind of order - but the bag is from the late 1980s.
"THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST OF THIS SERIES WITH ITS LOW NUMBERS. "
 
#5,067
Hyacinth said:
It's genuine, I'll look for the name if you won it.

This part isn't right though, the serial numbers were NOT given in any kind of order - but the bag is from the late 1980s.
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I didn't bid. I was afraid to without a response. Thanks, though!
 
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#5,069
Hyacinth said:
For a few years, some genuine bags DID say U.S.A. especially bags from the Lightweights and Soho lines.

This one is an Envelope Portfolio style 5190 from the late 1980s.
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thank you, i was very curious but did not bid.
but what about this one, which i did bid on, since i seem to be amassing a collection of book-bags:
item: barclay briefcase
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/15071884912...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_3224wt_1061
seller:amazed_and_amuzed
comment: looked authentic to me, but i want to confirm
 
#5,070
Hyacinth said:
The creeds for the Brookes 14339 and 14340 just say that they are made "from the finest materials and leather" but it doesn't say what kind of leather. You might have to actually email Coach in the US - if you need to know because of religious reasons be sure to mention that in your email - or perhaps phone whichever Coach store in Malaysia has been open the longest and ask their manager if any of those styles used pigskin.

Coach used to mention in their older bags if pigskin was used, but they don't do that any more in their newer bags. Maybe someone else will know if they are still using that kind of leather.

You could also ask at the main Coach forum here:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/
They know much more than most of us here about what kinds of materials are used in the newer bags.
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Thank you hyacinth. I emailed coach in the US as you suggested. This was their response (altho i'm not sure what 'inconvenience' they are referring to):

Thank you for your inquiry.

We do apologize for the inconvenience. We do not make items out of pig leather.

Your comments have been passed along to the appropriate department for review. If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Sincerely,

Virlynda
COACH Online Consumer Service
 
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