Authenticate This Coach
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Agree, this looks ok to me too, but as Hyacinth said, a picture of the price tag would be helpful.
hey guys....
should the inside of this bag be completely lined in the striped legacy lining or just the bottom as the picture shows???????
http://cgi.ebay.com/COACH-large-leather-hobo-tote-bag-purse-willis-ergo_W0QQitemZ260243355023QQihZ016QQcategoryZ63852QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
TIA
This looks fine to me, although the seller has the wrong title for this bag. It's NOT a Willis bag. I think this was an earlier style of the Legacy tote (style #10787) that didn't have complete Legacy stripe lining on the inside (although I haven't seen this style in person.) Maybe someone who has this bag can chime in about the lining. I know that the other styles of the Ergo tote, such as #11615 and the smaller versions are completely lined with the Legacy stripe lining.
A missing hangtag on one bag is really nothing to be suspicious about. It may have just gotten lost, one of the owners may be using it for a keychain or maybe even sold it on Ebay. And maybe the previous listing didn't even include the serial or style number, and if the 7411 wasn't in the main title of the listing it wouldn't have come up in a search of Completed auctions. Completed listings Searches only search auction titles, not descriptions. So you're probably putting too much importance on that hangtag. The important thing is that the bag is genuine.
Hi i am just wondering.. by looking at the bag.. how do you know if the bag is real or fake? there must be some pointers where we look at right? can any care to share to tell me more about its? thanks..
I want to emphasize that there are NO one or two or even ten "pointers" that prove a bag is genuine, but there are dozens that prove it's fake. Every feature or detail that Coach or any other manufacturer can put on their bags or wallets can be put on fakes by professional counterfeiters just as easily, even the "bulls-eye" outlet stamps. What a maker can make, a faker can fake.
We look for MISTAKES, not "authenticity proofs". The strongest pointer that a bag is genuine is usually the seller of the bag - there are some on Ebay who are so well-trusted that some of us would buy a bag from them with one photograph - or even none. But even experienced pros can sometimes be fooled, so we're still careful when we're looking at their items for someone else. And there are some things like wallets, keychains, or commonly faked bags like Carlys, Signature Stripes, Gallery Totes, etc, where we assume that if just one of a certain seller's items shows signs of a fake, everything they're selling is probably fake too.
We usually don't go into too many details about why we know something's fake unless it's obvious, like the C pattern not being aligned or a bag having the wrong serial number. These boards are public, and anyone including the sellers, distributors and makers of counterfeits can and do read them. Just a year or two ago Coach bags with messed-up C patterns and plastic wrap on the straps were all over Ebay and ridiculously easy to spot, but as the fakes industry found out why their junk was being spotted so easily they changed their methods. C's now usually line up correctly, and how many sellers are still dumb enough to leave the plastic on the handles? I think the one we looked at a few days ago is the first I've seen in weeks.
The fakes-selling industry also has their own forums - VERY private and well-hidden - where any information we let slip is circulated and passed up in the chain to distributors and manufacturers, so the less we say, the better. There have been quite a few fakes sellers "outed" right here at tPF and they try to infiltrate the more private forums too, in order to learn what mistakes we're spotting so they can either correct them or be sure that when they take their auction photos they make sure NOT to photograph areas on a bag, wallet or keychain that would show it to be fake. That's why a lot of fakes sellers avoid showing pics of things like the hardware, the creed patch, the hangtag, etc. and why we won't recommend anyone bid on an item with bad or incomplete photos.
There are no simple "guides" and very few "rules" - the only way to learn how to tell fake from real is by first learning the product - learn everything you can about what makes a Coach item, and not just the current line in the stores. You can't spot fakes until you know what the genuine items look like unless the fakes have really obvious mistakes. And don't depend on the Drilldown! It's easy to make a fake, especially a wallet, that will look exactly like Coach's photograph. Drilldown photos sometimes have incorrect details too.
Never depend on one or two Ebay guides or some e-guide that you downloaded from an Ebay seller (most people selling those downloadable guides are also known to have sold fakes, BTW). There are a few very good Ebay guides but even those have to be updated regularly as Coach makes changes in the details of things like hardware and serial numbers. Way too many Ebay "guides" are worse than useless, especially any that claim that if a bag has such-and-such a feature, like YKK zippers, that proves it's genuine - BULLPOOP! There are no "proofs" or "authenticity Rules" that prove anything is genuine. Something is probably genuine only if and when no one can find anything in the auction photos, seller history or their own personal experience that shows it to be fake, and even then that's not proof.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but it's a complicated subject and there aren't any simple answers.
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Hi everybody! I read that this is a good place to get some authenticity opinions and I am looking at a couple of bags on ebay so I decided to sign up! I know that Coach bags are faked all the time but these two looked good to me just based on what little I know about how to tell. I don't even know what color I want but I really love this style! Can anyone tell me if they look okay? Thanks for your help!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Coach-Hamptons-...ryZ63852QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NWT-Coach-Hampt...VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
http://cgi.ebay.com/Coach-Hamptons-...ryZ63852QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NWT-Coach-Hampt...VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
I had asked earlier about this handbag and this seller? Is there a list of reliable sellers?
Thank you for any help.
http://cgi.ebay.com/COACH-SIGNATURE-KHAKI-EAST-WEST-DUFFLE-PURSE-BAG-NEW_W0QQitemZ160237006379QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63852Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thank you for any help.
http://cgi.ebay.com/COACH-SIGNATURE-KHAKI-EAST-WEST-DUFFLE-PURSE-BAG-NEW_W0QQitemZ160237006379QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63852Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This seller seems reputable. A few tPF members have bought from this seller.
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/reputable-coach-sellers-on-ebay-22468-7.html#post2286841
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/reputable-coach-sellers-on-ebay-22468-17.html#post5790281
This bag looks ok, the only thing is the stitching on the bottom of the creed looks a bit warped. I'd like to see a closer picture of the creed to see if it's just the picture or if it actually is that way.
You're welcome! A few of the things to look for on a creed patch: whether the serial number is correct, the wording on the creed, whether the font is correct, if the stitching looks good, how the creed patch looks, etc. and other things that are not as easy to describe.
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