Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi could someone help me figure out if this Coach Court bag is real? I found it on Craigslist. And asked for pictures of the creed. I'm wanting to make sure it's real before making the trip to get it.
Also, does it matter that it was made in Turkey and not US? Is it an older bag? Thank you so much.
Dimensions are listed as: 8" T x 9" W x 3.5" D
Item: Coach Court Bag Black
Listing Number:-
Link: https://kansascity.craigslist.org/clo/5394939881.html

Genuine, made in 1997 in Turkey. Coach has made bags in at least a dozen countries over the years.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi
I think my earlier post got lost. Trying again...

https://www.etsy.com/listing/261515396/vintage-coach-light-brown-or-tan-station. The attached photo is for this bag.



https://www.etsy.com/listing/186191033/vintage-coach-tan-equestrian-belt-saddle

https://www.etsy.com/listing/255278403/vintage-coach-leather-messenger-bag (the creed photo is not good. I have requested a better one)

1- genuine, late 1980s

2- genuine Saddle Pouch, Standard or Small, style 9590, early to mid 1980s

3 - genuine, either a Manhattan Museum Bag or Manhattan Bistro Bag from around 1993

 

[Profmom1]

Thank you!

 

[kristisan]

Hello, Coach experts! I am hoping that I can get your opinions on a few auctions that I'm considering:

Item: Original COACH stewardess bag, british tan leather
Listing number: 201501537722
Seller: madamebauer
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201501537722?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments:

Item: ALMOST VINTAGE COACH COMPANION FLAP IN HOT RED LEATHER #9076 USA E U C
Listing number: 331742892772
Seller: varoom1234
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/331742892772?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments:

Item: Authentic Coach Classics Stewardess Bag British Tan Leather Shoulder Purse 9525
Listing number: 301838922915
Seller: janetanned
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/301838922915?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments:

Item: Coach 9790 Vintage City Bag Red Leather Shoulder Bag Crossbody New York City
Listing number: 141876835146
Seller: billybblue
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-9790-...er-Bag-Crossbody-New-York-City-/141876835146?
Comments:

Thank you SO much for your time!!!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello, Coach experts! I am hoping that I can get your opinions on a few auctions that I'm considering:

Item: Original COACH stewardess bag, british tan leather
Listing number: 201501537722
Seller: madamebauer
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201501537722?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments:

Item: ALMOST VINTAGE COACH COMPANION FLAP IN HOT RED LEATHER #9076 USA E U C
Listing number: 331742892772
Seller: varoom1234
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/331742892772?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments:

Item: Authentic Coach Classics Stewardess Bag British Tan Leather Shoulder Purse 9525
Listing number: 301838922915
Seller: janetanned
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/301838922915?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments:

Item: Coach 9790 Vintage City Bag Red Leather Shoulder Bag Crossbody New York City
Listing number: 141876835146
Seller: billybblue
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-9790-...er-Bag-Crossbody-New-York-City-/141876835146?
Comments:

Thank you SO much for your time!!!

1 - genuine, but made in China in 2008

2- genuine

3- genuine

4- genuine, probably made in 1987

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach 29429 Key Item Grain Black Leather LG Tote Shoulder Bag Msrp$348 *free s/h
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-29429...891544?hash=item5680f78118:g:Xl4AAOSwKtlWlVZs
Seller:http://www.ebay.com/usr/rfrcorp?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

Comments: Not really interested in this particular bag, but I have noticed recently on a couple sellers from the NJ/NY/MA area, that list brand new Coach bags at high BIN price, and they also have a few styles at very low starting bid with no reserve, and the creeds are not visible or very blurry... I guess I am being suspicious and just wondering if there are certain new styles that are showing up as fakes.

I can only comment on the seller and listing you've posted since I don't know who the other sellers are nor have I seen their listings.

The bag in the listing looks okay.

Some of the major department store chains (specifically Federated Stores which include Macy's, Bloomingdales) that have liberal return policies. Between what they have in their own stores' inventories and the returns they accept, they often have items that can't be returned to the selling floor. Some items have been used, damaged, shopworn, etc.

For those items, there are people and businesses who buy up the truckloads of stock and resell it. I think this ebay seller has one of those types of businesses.

They generally buy the stuff sight unseen and have no idea what they'll get. Some items may be perfectly new and unused while others are trashed. And I've seen a few cases where a reputable seller who bought Macy's inventory listed a fake. (A dishonest customer bought a bag at Macy's, switched tags and returned a fake with the original genuine receipt.)

While there are some sellers who have close fakes and HTF items at too-good-to-be-true
prices, there are some legitimate ones too.

I want to add an update (i.e., WARNING) to my post from a few days ago.

Although I thought the bag in the listing you asked about looked okay, at the time, I didn't look at all rfrcorp listings and because there was so many that it's virtually impossible to check all.

If you'll notice the part of my previous post that I've highlighted in blue, it appears that the seller may have purchased some fakes among the truckloads he bought.

While it's reasonable for sellers to assume that lots purchased from department stores would be authentic, one would think they'd know the basics about the products they sell.

Tonight, I found this listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-A2J-6...199769?hash=item2eea961459:g:IVUAAOSwqrtWmSfE

And in case the listing is removed, here are the pictures:

 

[missbaltimore]

All are authentic.

It's fine too.

It was called a Hamptons Framed Leather Purse. Sorry I don't have names for the others, I usually just saved handbag names, and a lot of smaller items like wristlets never made it into the catalogs.

Thanks so much BB and Hyacinth!!!

 

[NatLinkin]

Thank you so much for your time and help Hyacinth!

 

[JOODLZ]

Poppy Op Art Glam Tote

Crescent Bag, style 9235, early to mid-1980s

Slim Satchel Compact, 9425

Can't help with the shoes, sorry.

They're fine.

Thanks...both of you...Happy Weekend

 

[Hyacinth]

I want to add an update (i.e., WARNING) to my post from a few days ago.

Although I thought the bag in the listing you asked about looked okay, at the time, I didn't look at all rfrcorp listings and because there was so many that it's virtually impossible to check all.

If you'll notice the part of my previous post that I've highlighted in blue, it appears that the seller may have purchased some fakes among the truckloads he bought.

While it's reasonable for sellers to assume that lots purchased from department stores would be authentic, one would think they'd know the basics about the products they sell.

Tonight, I found this listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-A2J-6...199769?hash=item2eea961459:g:IVUAAOSwqrtWmSfE

And in case the listing is removed, here are the pictures:

Thanks, BB!

Looks like the original listing for the fake has been removed. But it points out what can happen when a seller gets lazy or just doesn't care enough to check a few basics, like the style number of the bag being sold. The listing was for a "COACH A2J 6094 OP ART Signature Brown Claret Satchel Bag", and a simple check for style number 6094 on Ebay would have raised at least a few red flags. Not to mention the sloppy and un-Coachlike details of the bag itself.

A check of Daria48's Fake Coach Numbers List at Ebay wouldn't have hurt either.

I don't have much sympathy for sellers who get stuck with fakes because they can't be bothered to do some simple research.

 

[WishingonaCoach]

Thanks, BB!

Looks like the original listing for the fake has been removed. But it points out what can happen when a seller gets lazy or just doesn't care enough to check a few basics, like the style number of the bag being sold. The listing was for a "COACH A2J 6094 OP ART Signature Brown Claret Satchel Bag", and a simple check for style number 6094 on Ebay would have raised at least a few red flags. Not to mention the sloppy and un-Coachlike details of the bag itself.

A check of Daria48's Fake Coach Numbers List at Ebay wouldn't have hurt either.

I don't have much sympathy for sellers who get stuck with fakes because they can't be bothered to do some simple research.

I want to add an update (i.e., WARNING) to my post from a few days ago.

Although I thought the bag in the listing you asked about looked okay, at the time, I didn't look at all rfrcorp listings and because there was so many that it's virtually impossible to check all.

If you'll notice the part of my previous post that I've highlighted in blue, it appears that the seller may have purchased some fakes among the truckloads he bought.

While it's reasonable for sellers to assume that lots purchased from department stores would be authentic, one would think they'd know the basics about the products they sell.

Tonight, I found this listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-A2J-6...199769?hash=item2eea961459:g:IVUAAOSwqrtWmSfE

And in case the listing is removed, here are the pictures:

Thank you BeenBurned for the update. I imagine that when you deal with volume is understandable that you could end up with a fake, although if you buy from huge retailers as Macy's I doubt they would be fooled in the first place, but everything is possible I guess.

That said I am with Hyacinth that it is no excuse, specially when you have to go through the process of taking pictures and confirm the style for title, etc... after dealing with so many real Coach, to research a bit further if in doubt.

What it puzzled me was the logic or lack of, of listing brand new bags with the BIN price at a reasonable high price, but others of the same kind start with a very low opening bid and no reserve. I guess is sellers tactics or whatever that as I am not I do not get, LOL

 

[BeenBurned]

Thank you BeenBurned for the update. I imagine that when you deal with volume is understandable that you could end up with a fake, although if you buy from huge retailers as Macy's I doubt they would be fooled in the first place, but everything is possible I guess.

That said I am with Hyacinth that it is no excuse, specially when you have to go through the process of taking pictures and confirm the style for title, etc... after dealing with so many real Coach, to research a bit further if in doubt.

Regarding switcheroos at Macy's (and other department stores), I've seen it happen many times, in fact, once in person and I mentioned to the SA that the bag was fake. (Sales personnel aren't trained to authenticate and even if they had experience in doing so, chances are it would be limited knowledge and that they'd recognize every fake that came into the store is doubtful.

In the case I witnessed, while I was waiting in line to make a purchase, the customer in front of me was returning a fake Coach. After her return, I stepped up, mentioned to the cashier that the bag was fake and her response is that when a customer returns an item with tags and a receipt, they have to accept it and issue a refund/credit.

In that instance, she did put the bag aside (rather than back onto the selling floor) but in cases where there isn't someone to "enlighten" them, the item gets returned to the sales floor awaiting the next buyer. In putting the fake aside as she did in my case, the cashier was probably setting up a bulk-buyer like rfrcorp to receive a fake.

I've also found fakes at TJ's and Marshalls, again types of retailers where employees are usually young, naive and unaware of fakes. Buyers return after a switch and even managers don't recognize the red flags.

But I agree with Hyacinth and you that a seller of that much Coach should certainly recognize the lack of quality in a fake and at least question or verify that it's legal to sell.

 

[WishingonaCoach]

Regarding switcheroos at Macy's (and other department stores), I've seen it happen many times, in fact, once in person and I mentioned to the SA that the bag was fake. (Sales personnel aren't trained to authenticate and even if they had experience in doing so, chances are it would be limited knowledge and that they'd recognize every fake that came into the store is doubtful.

In the case I witnessed, while I was waiting in line to make a purchase, the customer in front of me was returning a fake Coach. After her return, I stepped up, mentioned to the cashier that the bag was fake and her response is that when a customer returns an item with tags and a receipt, they have to accept it and issue a refund/credit.

In that instance, she did put the bag aside (rather than back onto the selling floor) but in cases where there isn't someone to "enlighten" them, the item gets returned to the sales floor awaiting the next buyer. In putting the fake aside as she did in my case, the cashier was probably setting up a bulk-buyer like rfrcorp to receive a fake.

I've also found fakes at TJ's and Marshalls, again types of retailers where employees are usually young, naive and unaware of fakes. Buyers return after a switch and even managers don't recognize the red flags.

But I agree with Hyacinth and you that a seller of that much Coach should certainly recognize the lack of quality in a fake and at least question or verify that it's legal to sell.

Oh my gosh! I guess you are right, this type scenario will allow for fakes to make it to reputable stores, but geez! Those crooks/thieves must have nerves of steel.

 

[ekhfashions]

Hello Everyone, I'd like to get an opinion on this Coach please. Interior tag says Made In India. Thanks so much for your help!

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello Everyone, I'd like to get an opinion on this Coach please. Interior tag says Made In India. Thanks so much for your help!

It's fine.